# Das Boot remake?  Seriously?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 17, 2015, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105 "2015-08-17T19:14:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![spifflog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@spifflog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spifflog)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/41 "2015-08-18T14:30:54Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> No one born after about 1968 realizes just how _cool_ Sinatra and his gang were back then. JFK actually came to Vegas to see them when they were filming the movie, and they acted as though they were jesters at his court. It was a great symbiotic relationship until Frank and Jack had their falling out.

While that might be correct, much more to the point is that no one born after 1968 gives a rat’s ass if Sinatra was cool or not. It’s not on their radar and they don’t care.

> [@terentii](#):
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> Movies from the '30s, '40s, and '50s were still being shown regularly on TV well into the '80s. Hell, I was born in 1955, and I grew up watching Clark Gable, Cary Grant, Spencer Tracey, et al.

And you’d be the exception. I’d bet the TV watching demographic in the 70’s for those films was your mother and father. You’d watch because you had three stations on your rabbit eared TV or you could go to the movies. No other options. No cable. no internet. No smart phone. I was born in 1962, and 34 year old films for me were made in the 40’s, and my 20 year old self wasn’t into that. At. All.

I was surprised to see that Das Boot was 34 years old. Perhaps you were interested in 34 year old films when you were in your 20s, but that’s not the norm then I’d guess and isn’t now.

If film makers want to show a new audience a 34 year old film with now effects and new actors, that isn’t asking all that much from my perspective.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/42 "2015-08-18T14:37:56Z")

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The trouble with a remake of this movie is, what is the plot of the original, and what will the plot of the reboat be?

The original movie doesn’t really have a story. The movie is all about the journey, surviving day to day, the frustrations and terror and boredom on a U-Boat. If they give the new one the same structure, there’s nothing new worth seeing, and if they give it a whole new story, why don’t they call it something else?

I’m sure there are a lot of good sub stories out there waiting to be told. Film them. _Run Silent Run Deep_ was a great book that was barely explored in the film of the same name. Make that a 6 hour movie!

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**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/43 "2015-08-18T14:41:16Z")

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> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#):
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> Would they DARE call it “Das Re-Boot”?

They could throw in a romantic subplot and call it “Das Love Boot.”

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/44 "2015-08-18T14:45:53Z")

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> [@Eutychus](#):
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> They could throw in a romantic subplot and call it “Das Love Boot.”

Oh, it is so ON!

“You’re gonna need a bigger boot.”

🙂

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/45 "2015-08-18T17:28:58Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> I’m sure there are a lot of good sub stories out there waiting to be told. Film them. _Run Silent Run Deep_ was a great book that was barely explored in the film of the same name. Make that a 6 hour movie!

Star Trek franchise already made some eps and at least one movie that borrowed heavily from that and Enemy Below.

Maybe if they reboot the reboot…!!

Das Boötes  
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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/46 "2015-08-18T17:33:46Z")

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> [@Archeonomist](#):
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> They were wrong. [http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=62DpHt\_Ztv0](http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=62DpHt_Ztv0)

What are you talking about? They are clearly saying the long O sound, except they’re dragging it out longer, which you do in German. They’re not saying “oo” as in the English word “boot.”

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/47 "2015-08-18T17:42:28Z")

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> [@spifflog](#):
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> I know it’s virtually sacrilege to say this but . . . so what if they remake this, and the Godfather, and Gone with the Wind, and Name Your Favorite Film of All Time??

Because, it’s like with Battlestar Galactica. “OOh, I think \*Das Boot \*was one of the greatest movies of all time!” “What, that hack piece of crap?” “How dare you say that!” and so forth.

I think BG was cheesy good fun. The craptastic cable TV show that shared the name- was a abomination.

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/48 "2015-08-18T17:44:42Z")

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> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#):
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> Oh, it is so ON!
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> “You’re gonna need a bigger boot.”
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> 🙂

Spoken by Korvettenkapitan Merrel Von Stuebing.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/49 "2015-08-18T17:45:42Z")

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> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#):
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> Oh, it is so ON!
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> “You’re gonna need a bigger boot.”
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> 🙂

Bring in some kinky stuff and it’d be “das high-heeled boot”

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/50 "2015-08-18T17:51:23Z")

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> [@JustinC](#):
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> I think remakes of excellent movies are a waste of resources that could be spent on original ideas, that the remake exists is not an issue; it’s that there are only a limited number of big budget productions every 12 months.

Wouldn’t it be sad if there were no good new ideas circulating, and the remakes and reboots were the best ideas currently around?

And this is possible from an investor’s POV. At least there is a history to look at, one that you can use to justify investing in a remake rather than a shot intonew territory.

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**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/51 "2015-08-18T17:57:50Z")

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> [@Toy\_varen](#):
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> Is it just me or am I the only one who didn’t really like the film?
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> To me, this is like the multiple Carrie, Psycho, or Amityville Horror remakes. If I don’t care about the first version, I’m just ho hum on the remake…not likely to even try to watch it.

\<Evan Conover\> Disparaging “Das Boot” is a bootable offense! \<Evan Conover\>

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/52 "2015-08-18T17:59:31Z")

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What to do with the reboot?

_The Enemy Below_ is a great movie, but it works because you get both sides. It’s definitely a post-war movie. That’s why it worked in Star Trek as well. It humanizes the enemy. We’re all in the same…er…boat. Following orders, doing our duty, despite what we think of the war or the guy on the other side.

I don’t think Das Boot would be improved by humanizing the enemy. It’s perfect the way it is. A bunch of gung ho kids finding out that the glorious war they thought they signed up for was anything but.

A parallel would be a good miniseries-sized version of _The Cruel Sea_. The movie was OK, but it skipped a lot of what made TCS similar to DB - the tedium and terror, the fact that the sea was the real enemy (IIRC, In TCS, the ships that the main characters are on sink exactly one sub during the entire war.)

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**Author:** ![Archeonomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7cd45c/32.png) [@Archeonomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Archeonomist)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/53 "2015-08-18T19:38:30Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> What are you talking about? They are clearly saying the long O sound, except they’re dragging it out longer, which you do in German. They’re not saying “oo” as in the English word “boot.”

I was referring to what you said about ‘boot’ being pronounced exactly like English ‘boat’

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/54 "2015-08-18T20:14:32Z")

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> [@Archeonomist](#):
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> I was referring to what you said about ‘boot’ being pronounced exactly like English ‘boat’

Sure, it’s more like "boat’ than ‘boot’, but it’s not really either. But if I say “Das Boot” anglicized, people will know what I am talking about.

How do you say Poul Anderson’s first name? 😃 (He told me I was “pretty close for someone born in America”)

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/55 "2015-08-18T20:52:31Z")

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If they throw in a large breasted but otherwise irrelevant female character, will that mooter boot?

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/56 "2015-08-18T21:13:18Z")

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> [@Stink Fish Pot](#):
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> Next, The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly will be remade. And all will be lost.

> [@Gothic](#):
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> So who would they cast for the remake of, The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly?
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> Maybe make it a space opera and cast Nathan Fillion as Blondie?

If they did do this, maybe Hugh Jackman could pull off TMWNN.

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**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/57 "2015-08-18T22:01:05Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> All kidding aside, Hollywood surely respects the earlier work too much to do that.
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> By which I mean Brad Pitt has to be second-in-command to George Clooney, who squares off against U-boat commander Andy Garcia for the love of Julia Roberts.

All filmed in the Mediterranean Sea!

Has anyone got Spielberg’s number? We’ll call it _1943_ and pitch it as a wacky take on Operation Torch!

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/58 "2015-08-18T22:07:10Z")

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I see the remake as an 80s German dance movie called _Das Booty_. Mike Myers will make a cameo appearance as Gruppenfuhrer Dieter.

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**Author:** ![Archeonomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7cd45c/32.png) [@Archeonomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Archeonomist)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/59 "2015-08-18T23:01:41Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Sure, it’s more like "boat’ than ‘boot’, but it’s not really either. But if I say “Das Boot” anglicized, people will know what I am talking about.
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> How do you say Poul Anderson’s first name? 😃 (He told me I was “pretty close for someone born in America”)

😃 I think it’s about the same ‘o’ sound as boat - and das boot, but spoken Danish is pretty hard stuff for us Norwegians. It’s a lot easier to read.

Sorry for the hijack btw

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/60 "2015-08-19T01:42:32Z")

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> [@Archeonomist](#):
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> I was referring to what you said about ‘boot’ being pronounced exactly like English ‘boat’

Okay, so maybe it was a slight exaggeration to say it’s _just_ like the English word “boat.” After all, we say “boat” and not “booooooaaaaaat.” But if you say to a German _Das Boot_ (English word “boot”, like what goes on your foot), he or she may not know what you’re talking about. If you say “Das Boat,” it’ll be clear, although they’ll think you have a funny accent.

I would not encourage native English speakers to say the exact long O of the Germans, just like I would not encourage them to roll their Rs for “margarita,” but they should get the basic vowel correct.

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