# David Hogg Fights Pillows with Pillows **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 6, 2021, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-hogg-fights-pillows-with-pillows/932313 "2021-02-06T04:51:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2021, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-hogg-fights-pillows-with-pillows/932313/1 "2021-02-06T04:51:27Z")
Remember David Hogg? He was one of the survivors of the Parkland, FL school shooting who became well-known for his articulate and outspoken response in the wake of the shooting. Oh yeah, and this teenager also got hounded harrassed by Marjorie Taylor Green in DC. Perhaps you’ve seen the footage. It’s been all over the news. She seems to think the shooting was some sort of a hoax. Speaking of “all over the news,” we also have Mike Lindell, the “My Pillow” guy who apparently lives under the same bridge as Margie Q. (Don’t worry - it has special shielding to protect them from the Jewish Space Lasers…) And…David Hogg just started a PILLOW FIGHT with Mike Lindell. Yes, Mr. Hogg intends to start his own pillow company to compete with My Pillow. I find this tactic charming, delightful, and frankly hilarious. I hope it happens. > **[David Hogg launching pillow company to 'put MyPillow out of business'](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/david-hogg-launching-pillow-company-put-mypillow-out-business-n1256817)** > > Hogg tweeted a list of goals for the future company, which included supporting progressive causes and hiring formerly incarcerated Americans. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2021, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-hogg-fights-pillows-with-pillows/932313/2 "2021-02-06T05:04:30Z")
I’m thinking I’ll be needing to replace all my pillows in a few months… ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2021, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-hogg-fights-pillows-with-pillows/932313/3 "2021-02-06T18:00:55Z")
“Our Pillow” would be a good name for the product. Keep it simple. ---
**Author:** ![Asuka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@Asuka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asuka)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2021, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-hogg-fights-pillows-with-pillows/932313/4 "2021-02-06T18:23:13Z")
Everyone forgets though that David Hogg was also really big into banning the Tik Tok app and other conspiracy theories involving Chinese data stealing. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2021, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-hogg-fights-pillows-with-pillows/932313/5 "2021-02-06T21:09:53Z")
60 Minutes just ran a story about how China is heavily invested, and is quite open about, acquiring, legally or illegally, as much personal information about US citizens as it can, including genetic/DNA information. They’ve engaged in documented industrial espionage on a massive scale for decades, and this is just another aspect of it. > **[The Department of Justice’s National Security Division Chief Addresses...](https://www.natlawreview.com/article/department-justice-s-national-security-division-chief-addresses-china-s-campaign-to)** > > On August 12, 2020, John Demers, the head of the National Security Division (NSD) at the Department of Justice (DOJ), spoke publicly about national security threats from China at an event sponsored by > **[1 in 5 corporations say China has stolen their IP within the last year: CNBC...](https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/28/1-in-5-companies-say-china-stole-their-ip-within-the-last-year-cnbc.html)** > > The survey's findings reinforce the importance of IP theft in the trade war negotiations between the Trump administration and China. > **[China's push to control Americans' health care future](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biodata-dna-china-collection-60-minutes-2021-01-31/)** > > U.S. officials say the Chinese government is trying to collect Americans' DNA, and they believe a recent offer from a Chinese company for assistance in COVID-19 testing was suspicious. Jon Wertheim reports. > **[Intel agency warns of threats from China collecting sensitive US health data](https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/536838-intel-agency-warns-of-threats-from-china-collecting-sensitive-us-health/)** > > The National Counterintelligence and Security Center (NCSC) on Monday warned that efforts by the Chinese government to obtain U.S. health data, particularly DNA, through hacking and other means had… ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-hogg-fights-pillows-with-pillows/932313/6 "2021-02-07T02:37:37Z")
Mod note: And what does this have to do with the pillow fight? Don’t do this. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-hogg-fights-pillows-with-pillows/932313/7 "2021-02-07T06:16:47Z")
If this was addressed to me, I’m sorry. I was responding to Asuka’s comment implying that David Hogg was wrong to believe that China was stealing data from the US. Perhaps it would have been better in a message rather than here. ---
**Author:** ![Lantern2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lantern2/32/3010_2.png) [@Lantern2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern2)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-hogg-fights-pillows-with-pillows/932313/8 "2021-02-07T06:29:43Z")
If someone doesn’t end this cycle of partisan pillowrization, I see a dark [future](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JDxZ4_TjPo) for America. ---
**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-hogg-fights-pillows-with-pillows/932313/9 "2021-02-07T13:41:13Z")
I think this is a waste of his talents. He won’t be hurting Lindell, because no liberal would buy a My Pillow now anyway, so Hogg’s is left with becoming a pillow salesman instead of putting his talents, will, and energy into reform. ---
**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-hogg-fights-pillows-with-pillows/932313/10 "2021-02-09T16:09:30Z")
If David Hogg is still trying to sell pillows 5 years from now, I’ll be very surprised. That said, I don’t know the future of MyPillow. Mike Lindell should not have gotten himself that ensconced in politics imo. “Generic Trump supporter” probably would have been okay. But if wants to be that politically active he should have run for office. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-hogg-fights-pillows-with-pillows/932313/11 "2021-02-09T16:13:30Z")
I admire the gun control activism, but the pillow thing is just weird. There’s better use for his time at Harvard, perhaps taking an economics class. His weird rants on NAFTA shows how clueless he is. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2021, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-hogg-fights-pillows-with-pillows/932313/12 "2021-02-10T02:17:12Z")
Looks like one of his fellow activists, Cameron Kasky isn’t in agreement at all, a bit of a Twitter spat > ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2021, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-hogg-fights-pillows-with-pillows/932313/13 "2021-02-10T03:46:16Z")
They now have a name, a [website](https://goodpillow.co/), a logo, and a manifesto. The manifesto is brief but indicates a focus on social justice and activism. The below is not the complete manifesto, but it is all of 2 pages long. It isn’t just David, there’s also someone named William LeGate who appears to be something of a wunderkid with a substantial backroll. > - Good Pillow pledges to support charitable organizations working to improve the lives of everyday Americans & people across the world. > ⁞ > - Good Pillow pledges to be sustainably sourced and to be environmentally accountable. > ⁞ > - Good Pillow pledges to employ well-paid, unionized manufacturers. > - Good Pillow pledges to be Made in America. > - Good Pillow pledges to place a strong emphasis on hiring those who have traditionally struggled with seeking employment, including: veterans, refugees, people with disabilities, and people who were formerly incarcerated. > ⁞