# David Lynch, you have just pissed me off royally **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 24, 2016, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-lynch-you-have-just-pissed-me-off-royally/766715 "2016-09-24T10:23:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-lynch-you-have-just-pissed-me-off-royally/766715/21 "2016-09-24T22:53:11Z")
Maybe the Angriest Dog in the World should try it. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-lynch-you-have-just-pissed-me-off-royally/766715/22 "2016-09-25T02:14:36Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > (These are the same guys who claimed that the skies would soon be full of people flying by willpower alone. What did we actually get? A few videos of people bouncing on their butts.) Hey, I meditate, and I can fly! Have you even _tried_? At least now that the Sun is in Libra. When we were in Virgo, I kept losing altitude and whacking into the sides of buildings. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-lynch-you-have-just-pissed-me-off-royally/766715/23 "2016-09-25T04:05:59Z")
I agree with Larry Borgia. I personally am not religious. But I don’t see how believing you can change conditions in the world by meditating is any crazier than believing you can change conditions in the world by praying. ---
**Author:** ![Chicagojeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@Chicagojeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chicagojeff)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-lynch-you-have-just-pissed-me-off-royally/766715/24 "2016-09-25T06:21:27Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > So, Lynch could put this plan into action and see what happens. Open up a TM center in West Englewood, Chicago’s most crime-ridden neighborhood, and stock it with all sorts of New Age gewgaws and posters and artwork bearing positive intent. Staff it with peaceniks and hippies with flowers in their hair and have sitar music playing in the background. Then see how many times it gets looted and vandalized and make a movie out of it. Here’s a better idea genius (by the way its just Englewood… no West) If Lynch or some other practioners opened up a storefront… but offered some sort of tangible benefit some would be interested. The vast majority would be told to avoid by their pastors…Pastors don’t like meditation… they want to be the one to tell you ---
**Author:** ![Chicagojeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@Chicagojeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chicagojeff)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-lynch-you-have-just-pissed-me-off-royally/766715/25 "2016-09-25T06:23:06Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I agree with Larry Borgia. I personally am not religious. But I don’t see how believing you can change conditions in the world by meditating is any crazier than believing you can change conditions in the world by praying. TM has led to some really good songs… “Dear Prudence”. “How will I know” ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-lynch-you-have-just-pissed-me-off-royally/766715/26 "2016-09-25T06:31:46Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Hey, I meditate, and I can fly! Have you even _tried_? > > At least now that the Sun is in Libra. When we were in Virgo, I kept losing altitude and whacking into the sides of buildings. I practice James Vogh’s thirteen-house astrology, the one with the addition of Arachne. This is a really bad idea, because I’m strongly arachnophobic. But it does enable me to fly. A confederate puts a spider in front of me, and I’m suddenly forty feet in the air. I’ve also tried throwing myself at the ground…and missing. I do my part, but, for some reason, the ground never seems to miss me. I’m very good at thinking happy thoughts. It’s the Pixie Dust I’m missing. Probably just as well; the FDA has classified it as a schedule one narcotic. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-lynch-you-have-just-pissed-me-off-royally/766715/27 "2016-09-25T07:52:33Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I agree with Larry Borgia. I personally am not religious. But I don’t see how believing you can change conditions in the world by meditating is any crazier than believing you can change conditions in the world by praying. The detail a lot of people miss there is that you’re supposed to pray _and_ work toward whatever goal it is you’re praying about. Sitting on a chair, they’ll do; getting off their butts… uuffff… ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-lynch-you-have-just-pissed-me-off-royally/766715/28 "2016-09-25T08:04:11Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > David Lynch has believed this for a long time. It’s just a nutty belief he has. It doesn’t detract from the quality of his movies. I can’t imagine getting pissed off about it, any more than I’d get pissed off if a director said he was praying for Chicago. Why would that bother me? I’d go further and say it adds to the quality of his movies. If David Lynch was a logical hyper-rationalistic atheist, none of his movies would ever have been made. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-lynch-you-have-just-pissed-me-off-royally/766715/29 "2016-09-25T14:07:48Z")
I might actually pay to see a film of the Four Corner Hustlers being trained in TM™ by David Lynch’s guru. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-lynch-you-have-just-pissed-me-off-royally/766715/30 "2016-09-26T15:43:09Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > Otherwise stick to making movies rather than telling others how to live. Please, No! ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-lynch-you-have-just-pissed-me-off-royally/766715/31 "2016-09-26T17:52:11Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > I think you’re misunderstanding what he’s saying. TM Believers don’t just believe that meditating will have benefits for you mental state, or that Chicago criminals might become more relaxed if only they could somehow be persuaded to meditate. They believe that you meditating in your home will lower violence in Chicago by some sort of magical effect. I don’t see how you get that from either the OP’s quote or the full article linked to. Lynch specifically says it’s the person who meditates who will lose any violent urges. Sounds to me more like he’s advocating for teaching TM in the inner city, which may or may not do any good, but it couldn’t hurt. ---
**Author:** ![Memnon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@Memnon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Memnon)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-lynch-you-have-just-pissed-me-off-royally/766715/32 "2016-09-26T17:56:25Z")
> [@Larry Borgia](#): > > I think you’re misunderstanding what he’s saying. TM Believers don’t just believe that meditating will have benefits for you mental state, or that Chicago criminals might become more relaxed if only they could somehow be persuaded to meditate. They believe that you meditating in your home will lower violence in Chicago by some sort of magical effect. > [@Czarcasm](#): > > Yeah, the difference between “meditation” and “Transcendental Meditation” are pretty much like the difference between "touching and “bad touching”. Ah, that does put a different spin on it. Ignorance fought. Cheers guys. ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-lynch-you-have-just-pissed-me-off-royally/766715/33 "2016-09-26T18:21:25Z")
Fuck that foreign shit! Pabst Blue Ribbon! ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-lynch-you-have-just-pissed-me-off-royally/766715/34 "2016-09-26T20:50:17Z")
> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#): > > I don’t see how you get that from either the OP’s quote or the full article linked to. Lynch specifically says it’s the person who meditates who will lose any violent urges. Sounds to me more like he’s advocating for teaching TM in the inner city, which may or may not do any good, but it couldn’t hurt. Hmm, after some googling I can’t find any direct evidence that Lynch backs any of TM’s wilder beliefs. I just assumed he believed them, just like I assume a professed Christian believes in the divinity of Christ. But maybe he doesn’t. Sorry if I misrepresented you, David Lynch! I like your movies. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-lynch-you-have-just-pissed-me-off-royally/766715/35 "2016-09-27T18:25:01Z")
> [@Chicagojeff](#): > > Here’s a better idea genius (by the way its just Englewood… no West) If Lynch or some other practioners opened up a storefront… but offered some sort of tangible benefit some would be interested. The vast majority would be told to avoid by their pastors…Pastors don’t like meditation… they want to be the one to tell you Nuh-uhhh. There’s Englewood and [West Englewood](http://crime.chicagotribune.com/chicago/community/west-englewood). Don’t you feel stupid now? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-lynch-you-have-just-pissed-me-off-royally/766715.md?page=1)