# David Soul-Dead at 80

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 5, 2024, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-soul-dead-at-80/995665 "2024-01-05T17:54:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-soul-dead-at-80/995665/1 "2024-01-05T17:54:16Z")

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Already noted in the 2024 Death Pool thread.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-soul-dead-at-80/995665/2 "2024-01-05T20:14:03Z")

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> **[David Soul, of TV's 'Starsky and Hutch,' dies at 80](https://www.npr.org/2024/01/05/1223082514/david-soul-starsky-and-hutch-dies-obit)**
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> Soul was a 1970s heartthrob who co-starred as the blond half of the crime-fighting duo "Starsky & Hutch" and topped the music charts with the ballad "Don't Give Up on Us."

> **[David Soul | Actor, Director, Producer](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0815800/)**
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> Known for: Starsky & Hutch, Starsky and Hutch, Magnum Force

it looks like very minor acting roles in the last several decades?

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-soul-dead-at-80/995665/3 "2024-01-05T20:28:50Z")

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R.I.P. Hutch! Man I loved _Starsky and Hutch_ (and _Baretta_) when I was a kid.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-soul-dead-at-80/995665/4 "2024-01-05T20:36:01Z")

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I had such a crush on both Starsky and Hutch! I was a young pre-teen when this show came out and I thought that they both loved each other romantically but they were the most star-crossed of all lovers because, well, it’s impossible for two men to love each other this way. Just like the Dukes and the scullery maids in the other star-crossed lovers I was into.

I thought Don’t Give Up On Us, Baby was his secret message to Hutch that they could still come through! _sigh_.

RIP.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-soul-dead-at-80/995665/5 "2024-01-06T00:00:01Z")

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I also remember that he developed a serious drug addiction, and was arrested for kicking his pregnant wife in the stomach while high on cocaine. He obviously got clean or he wouldn’t have lived this long.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-soul-dead-at-80/995665/6 "2024-01-06T01:26:27Z")

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I never knew he was also a singer. His hit record didn’t make it to Germany, but “Starsky And Hutch” did, though I mostly remember it for the red car they drove with its iconic white stripe. I had it as a matchbox car.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-soul-dead-at-80/995665/7 "2024-01-06T02:24:39Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> he developed a serious drug addiction, and was arrested for kicking his pregnant wife in the stomach while high on cocaine.

Who hasn’t had that sorta detour along an otherwise saintly life?

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-soul-dead-at-80/995665/8 "2024-01-06T04:25:55Z")

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Oh no. I’m friends with his brother who lives in San Francisco. Thanks for sharing. I’ll reach out.

Update. I just called. No answer. I left a brief message.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-soul-dead-at-80/995665/9 "2024-01-06T04:28:35Z")

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A lot of early adult fan-fiction was based on _Starsky And Hutch_.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-soul-dead-at-80/995665/10 "2024-01-06T04:36:33Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> A lot of early adult fan-fiction was based on _Starsky And Hutch_

Indeed; my wife was involved in the fanfic community for a long while, and some of the oldest fanfic conventions had started out as, specifically, devoted to S&H fanfic.

As I understand it, the other media property that was frequently the subject of erotic fanfic in the 1960s and 1970s was Star Trek, and specifically stories depicting a relationship between Kirk and Spock. And, tying the two together, Soul had a significant role in one episode of Star Trek, as “Makora,” one of the natives in the episode “The Apple.”

[![](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BODQzYTI0ZDYtYjZhOS00Nzc3LWFmMjMtY2U3MzAyZWQ2ZjBmXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNjIyMzMxMTk@._V1_.jpg) ](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BODQzYTI0ZDYtYjZhOS00Nzc3LWFmMjMtY2U3MzAyZWQ2ZjBmXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNjIyMzMxMTk@._V1_.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Dropo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@Dropo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dropo)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-soul-dead-at-80/995665/11 "2024-01-06T04:54:11Z")

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That pic is actually Keith Andes, the “Ears of Vol” as Akuta.

This is Mr. Soul as Makora:

[![](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/David_Soul?file=Makora.jpg) ](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/David_Soul?file=Makora.jpg)

Your agonizer, please…

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**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-soul-dead-at-80/995665/12 "2024-01-06T04:57:44Z")

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Magnum Force is my favourite Dirty Harry movie.

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**Author:** ![Karen\_Lingel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karen_lingel/32/18649_2.png) [@Karen\_Lingel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karen_Lingel)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-soul-dead-at-80/995665/13 "2024-01-06T05:00:02Z")

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He was 80?!?!? Jesus, how old am I?

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-soul-dead-at-80/995665/14 "2024-01-06T06:03:55Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> I thought Don’t Give Up On Us, Baby was his secret message to Hutch that they could still come through! _sigh_.

In the UK, that song came out just before Christmas 1976. At the time, ABBA’s “Money, Money, Money” was at No. 1, the spot it had held since being released on 1 November.

The night of 1–2 January 1977, I was hitchhiking from Brighton to Cambridge after celebrating the New Year’s holiday. At midnight, I was standing at a crossroads on the A1M, listening to a transistor radio in freezing rain. I couldn’t believe my ears when the DJ announced “Don’t Give Up on Us, Baby” had knocked ABBA out of the No. 1 spot in the space of one week.

A few days later, I told a friend the news. (He must have been the only person in the country who didn’t already know.) His astonished response was “_That’s_ Number _One_?!?”

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-soul-dead-at-80/995665/15 "2024-01-06T14:48:03Z")

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He also played the role of Joshua Bolt in _Here Come The Brides_.

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
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When I read Stephen King’s, “‘salem’s Lot,” in paperback, I couldn’t wait for the inevitable movie version. The movie didn’t happen, crap in a hat, but then my spirits were uplifted, sort of, when they announced a TV mini-series in the works! Starring David Soul? It was barely OK. Re-made with Rob Lowe.

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**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-soul-dead-at-80/995665/17 "2024-01-06T21:24:40Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> Indeed; my wife was involved in the fanfic community for a long while, and some of the oldest fanfic conventions had started out as, specifically, devoted to S&H fanfic.

I was going with a woman when she started a S&H fan convention in the Chicago area, so of course I became involved with the fandom by association. It was an interesting experience.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-soul-dead-at-80/995665/18 "2024-01-07T17:36:27Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> I thought Don’t Give Up On Us, Baby was his secret message to Hutch that they could still come through! _sigh_.

Ugh, that song. Actually, one of the few good memories I have with my dad concerns that song.

I was a tween, and I was riding along with him on some errands. Note that a) we did not normally have involved conversations, but b) I was allowed to curse in front of him (not at him). So he goes into one place and I stay in the car, and I have the radio on the Slushy Love Songs station. He comes back when Don’t Give Up On Us is playing, and asks if I mind his changing it back to the Moldy Oldies station. I was surprised he even asked, which made me feel free to say, “Sure – it’s a bullshit song anyway.”

“What do you mean it’s bullshit?” (Another breakthrough: asking me what I thought?)

“Because she _shouldn’t_ give him another chance. She’s probably given him multiple chances – _One more try…I know we put a last one by_ – and he’s calling her ‘angel’ and himself a ‘fool’. Except what exactly did he do? _I really lost my head last night_ – yeah, probably involving alcohol, and she’s had it. I hope she tells him to stop saying ‘we’, and ‘us’, and that she’s giving up on HIM.”

Then a long silence, and I’m wondering if he even heard me. Finally, “Well, but he probably didn’t write the song himself. But you’re right, that sounds pretty bad.”

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-soul-dead-at-80/995665/19 "2024-01-07T17:57:08Z")

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One of the world’s wussiest songs ever, right up there with Bread’s “It Don’t Matter to Me.”

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-soul-dead-at-80/995665/20 "2024-01-07T18:02:35Z")

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Is there a Bread song that isn’t wussie?

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