# DavidB should resign or be replaced.
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/davidb-should-resign-or-be-replaced/4072
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [January 27, 2000, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/davidb-should-resign-or-be-replaced/4072 "2000-01-27T19:08:00Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2000, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/davidb-should-resign-or-be-replaced/4072/161 "2000-01-28T00:06:00Z")
::sniff sniff::
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### Author:  [@SINsApple](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SINsApple)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2000, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/davidb-should-resign-or-be-replaced/4072/162 "2000-01-28T00:07:00Z")
Wally:
What makes you think I have only read a few threads? I did say I read the headlight thread, and almost all of this one, but I wasn’t suggesting they are the only threads I’ve read.
I am not taking any users or moderators “to task” as you say. I questioned DavidB. simply from what the moderator applications say. If I am out of line, I give David absolute permission to tell me so without me taking offense. You, however, can go to hell you fucker.
You know nothing about me, what I know, or what I’ve read on this message board. And I think you are a presumptuous asshole for thinking you do. It seems to have gotten your panties right up in a bunch for danny and I to disagree with you by stating that we felt that NA had a bit of a reason to be upset.
Rather than question our arguments or statements, you instead make assumptions about us and say we are too new or stupid to make any rational observations. Well if you can’t be a mature debater, then I won’t be either. So fuck you and the horse you rode in on. Asshole.
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“I celebrate myself, and sing myself, and what I assume you shall assume, for every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you.” --Whitman
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### Author:  [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2000, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/davidb-should-resign-or-be-replaced/4072/163 "2000-01-28T00:08:00Z")
> [@](#):
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> Originally posted by Dannyboy99:
> \*\*Columbus, Georgia for now. Not Northern California. Though Im sure some of you hoped.
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> Danny\*\*
I’m very glad to see it’s not Northern California! 🙂
I actually worked with Bobby Peters when he was a Muskeegee County sheriff’s deputy and I was at Ft. Macpherson, Georgia, though – how’s that for a small world!
- Rick
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### Author:  [@onesheep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/onesheep)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2000, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/davidb-should-resign-or-be-replaced/4072/164 "2000-01-28T00:11:00Z")
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> Originally posted by SINsApple:
> **However I still stand by my claim that as a moderator, DavidB. shouldn’t be so ascerbic towards users.**
When putting on his moderator hat, DavidB, from what I have seen for the past month, has been polite in his posts.
DavidB is also a poster as an individual and in that capacity is no more ascerbic than others that post. Perhaps he should post under another name so those that don’t understand what [moderator hat on/off] means.
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### Author:  [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2000, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/davidb-should-resign-or-be-replaced/4072/165 "2000-01-28T00:13:00Z")
A mature debater.
Gosh.
you win.
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### Author:  [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2000, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/davidb-should-resign-or-be-replaced/4072/166 "2000-01-28T00:15:00Z")
**SINsApple** and **Dannyboy99** , I’m not going to wade back into those messes to see the exact posting order of the hostility between **N A** and **DavidB** , but I came to a completely different conclusion about **N A** based on _several_ recent threads. In the last couple of days, he has launched a number of unprovoked attacks on different people. (His idiot hatred in the thread on Mormonism is truly striking, but his attacks in several other posts have been nearly as stupid.)
His pattern of nastiness was pretty consistent.
1. Post something either easily proven wrong or hate-filled.
2. Be corrected (usually _not_ in a nasty way) or be challenged to back up his assertions.
3. React by impugning the character of the challenger, (avoiding any presentation of evidence), then immediately get into a name-calling contest.
I don’t know which thread _you_ think this all started on, but there is ample evidence on six threads that I have seen (excludes this thread) that **N A** is a hostile jerk. (David only posted to two of the six, BTW.)
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Tom~
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### Author:  [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2000, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/davidb-should-resign-or-be-replaced/4072/167 "2000-01-28T00:18:00Z")
They know that already, Tom.
They’ve read all the posts.
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### Author:  [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2000, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/davidb-should-resign-or-be-replaced/4072/168 "2000-01-28T00:18:00Z")
Danny, I’m afraid we’re going to have to agree to disagree, here.
I look over what N/A has written (specifically, the Mormonism thread, the Headlights thread, the “High! I’m \_\_\_\_\_” thread, the “I’m so embarrassed” thread, and the “Breast Enlargement” thread) and I see a very hyper-defensive person. Slightly joking material, or general joshing, or attacks upon his poorly stated/documented position invariably caused N/A to have a minor case of apoloplexy and wax wroth against Frankie, against Satan, against andros, and against David B.
Other people may have pushed N/A past the breaking point, but I feel that:
[ul][li]N/A encouraged them by being antagonistic towards them; fighting fire with fire begets return fire.[/li][li]N/A’s breaking point was infentesemal in relation to the average poster’s, and things an overwhelming majority of posters take in stride caused N/A to return with violent reactions.[/li][li]N/A had yet to prove himself by posting accurate information to GQ or GD before jumping into starting threads in MPSIMS and relating urban legends in GQ, which makes it hard for people to take him particularly seriously.[/ul][/li]
I don’t think anyone but N/A did anything particularly wrong.
Oh, and Wally- that was a bit over the edge. Get some bed rest, friend.
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JMCJ
Just confirming that my ass is, in fact, the wisest part of my body.
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### Author:  [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2000, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/davidb-should-resign-or-be-replaced/4072/169 "2000-01-28T00:19:00Z")
I type too slow. I started that post way back on page 3.
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### Author:  [@GLWasteful](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GLWasteful)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2000, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/davidb-should-resign-or-be-replaced/4072/170 "2000-01-28T00:19:00Z")
Danny
> [@](#):
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> But is not every person who posted and contributed to that “crucifixion” not equally guilty?
Okay, a little clarification if I may. How, exactly, do you consider what happened to Newt (or whoever in hell it was) to be a crucifixion? He posted to several threads, some of which I have gone to the trouble of reading, and for the most part seemed an amiable enough guy. I didn’t agree with most of what he was saying, but he didn’t seem to come unglued until he discovered the “Mormonism” thread. That was when he took it upon himself to be the one, sole distributor of The Truth©, then he was called on it. Just as anyone else has been who acted in the same fashion. Then, he discovered the “Flashing Headlights” thread, and his meltdown happened in a truly spectacular fashion. He was confronted, and challenged to provide proof of the allegations that he was making. Then he started to threaten and get ugly, and subsequently got his sorry ass banned.
So, the way I see it, he was just some poster, then he was a jerk, then he was a bigger jerk, then he became a threatening jerk, and finally he was a former jerk. I don’t see how you can consider him to have been unfairly persecuted.
Waste
Flick Lives!
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### Author:  [@Dannyboy99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dannyboy99)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2000, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/davidb-should-resign-or-be-replaced/4072/171 "2000-01-28T00:21:00Z")
Bricker,
My adventures this side (motioning East) of the Chatahoochee (sp) have just begun. I am here doing research on OCS programs at Ft. Benning. I am attempting to decide my future through observation. I am originally from San Dimas, Ca. I worked for the State with the Department of Transportation and New Technology. Trying to figure out where my degrees will take me these days. I’ve narrowed my decisions to either Army OCS or maybe just corporate side work. Fighting boredom led me here.
Danny
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### Author:  [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2000, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/davidb-should-resign-or-be-replaced/4072/172 "2000-01-28T00:23:00Z")
Goddamn drugs are making me cranky.
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### Author:  [@SINsApple](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SINsApple)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2000, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/davidb-should-resign-or-be-replaced/4072/173 "2000-01-28T00:26:00Z")
Okay, I never said Newton wasn’t an asshole. I have not in fact read the mormon thread, but from what I hear he is pretty dickheaded in there. But I was never defending him for what he said in those threads, only how he reacted to David in the headlights thread.
I simply thought he had reason, in the headlights thread, to be a bit offended by David’s posts. The thread wasn’t in the Pit, and therefore, it seemed a bit out of place for David to say what he did.
Onesheep, you are right, I wasn’t aware that David could post independantly from his moderator status. As a matter of fact, I am still skeptical of that. Every post of his that I have seen lists him as moderator. But you say it is true, so I will keep that in mind.
So please people, desist telling me what a jerk NA is. I have never argued that he isn’t; as a matter of fact, I have come to agree that he too is caustic and childish.
## DavidB.: I would appreciate if you could respond to me. Am I out of line to think you were a bit abrasive? I think there is a difference between pointing out flawed logic and senseless posts, and telling someone that all their posts are bullshit and should be treated as such.
“I celebrate myself, and sing myself, and what I assume you shall assume, for every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you.” --Whitman
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### Author:  [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2000, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/davidb-should-resign-or-be-replaced/4072/174 "2000-01-28T00:26:00Z")
It just keeps going and going and going…
Let me go on the record by saying that anyone offended by **DavidB** ’s corrections must be very thin-skinned and quick to anger. I say that as someone who’s been corrected by him a time or two. It stung a little but I got over it. I suggest others do so as well. As I stated on another thread, “If learning didn’t sometimes hurt, some of us would never learn anything at all.”
To NA and any others like you: May a Bird of Paradise fly up your nose.
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\>\< DARWIN \>
\_\_ **L\_\_\_L**
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### Author:  [@Frankie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frankie)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2000, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/davidb-should-resign-or-be-replaced/4072/175 "2000-01-28T00:27:00Z")
Danny-
San Dimas High School Football Rules!
Oh and Appleguy was pretty close to the edge and out of line telling people on the board what to do. When told he was out of line he got personally abusive. Thats what happened thats all!
Welcome to posting, here’s hoping you’ll make a good contribution!
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-Frankie
“Mother Mercy, can your loins bear fruit forever?/Is your fecundity a trammel or a treasure?”
-Bad Religion
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### Author:  [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2000, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/davidb-should-resign-or-be-replaced/4072/176 "2000-01-28T00:30:00Z")
This is just getting stupid.
Dannyboy if I’m wrong, I’m sorry.
I just don’t buy that you’ve been lurking since November and suddenly decide to post here based on the injustices suffered by NA.
You’ve gotten hostile pretty quick.
You seem to be creating an aplogia for Newton. In your post to Bricker with the “his facts died with his screen name” and “his ego won’t allow him to be beaten by you” comments you show an amazing amount of empathy.
Additionally your assertion that it wasn’t the “Real Newton” posting today seems to indicate some intimate knowledge of him and his motivations.
Oddly enough, I’ve noticed this pattern before.
::sniff sniff::
Hmmm.
If I’m wrong I apologize, but I don’t think I am.
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### Author:  [@Glitch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Glitch)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2000, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/davidb-should-resign-or-be-replaced/4072/177 "2000-01-28T00:39:00Z")
> [@](#):
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> On another subject Glitch is tempting fate in his taunting of this person. I dont think Newton is whom we have heard from using Newtons name today. I think todays looney is in fact a young house-sitter as this is the only scenario that makes real sense. That or evolution has just made a simple troll into a super being able to regenerate and mutate at will and actually become more social accepted and cunning. If Glitch knows as much as he/she claims to then they would know that to tell a loon that “you are full of hot wind” will only make the insane fires burn hotter and higher. This is to dare a person beyond sanity to go further. They will just because their egos wont allow them to be beaten by “you”
I am in absolutely no danger from this person. He is completely incapable of acting out any of his plans. And he is completely incapable of generating even the remotest amount of fear in me, or likely anybody else.
Deep inside he is completely locked up and a coward, unable to act. His delusions allow him the freedom to believe that his is winning, and will always win.
The non-specifity of his threats is another key indicator that he really isn’t planning anything (of course, to prove me wrong he will now probably post something specific).
Also, he is still posting. If he was truly interested in taking action he would have done so. Violent people don’t post that they are going to come and find you, they just do (they might make a single statement to that effect).
No, his attachment is to the fight itself. Violent criminals want defenseless creatures as prey. His instincts tell him that he is completely outmatched.
This individual believes deep down that he is worthless. This may be why he is a theist , in fact. He could very well be looking for the “we are all scum” of theism to support his view.
In any event, he is incapable of looking somebody dead in the eye and seeing himself as capable over them and hence unable of doing anything to them. This is why he seeks conflict over the Internet. Real violent criminals rarely confine themselves to the Internet instead seeking real prey.
Ultimately, what it comes down to is this. This guy is no threat, and I won’t allow him any power over me by affecting how I participate on this board.
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### Author:  [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2000, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/davidb-should-resign-or-be-replaced/4072/178 "2000-01-28T00:43:00Z")
You know what? David B. can be ascerbic, sarcastic, patronizing, and aggravating. Is he _always_ that way? No. Is he also smart, articulate, and rational? Generally, yes. But for someone (even a newbie) to point out that he _can_ be ascerbic hardly justifies jumping down the newbie’s throat or calling him (or her) a troll – a epithet that seems to be whipped out at the drop of a hat around here lately. And, NO, I’m not talking about N/A, whose posts, including the one beginning this thread, can’t be justified. But let’s not act like Danny’s mild aside that David CAN be ascerbic isn’t a view that’s widely held around here. Hey, as a criticism, you could do a lot worse.
Pointing out that Not Applicable’s beef might have an _infintesimal_ grain of truth to it hardly makes one an apologist for his rampant fruit-cakedness. Can’t we all just relax a tad?
Danny and SIN, welcome; may you post in peace and be flamed only when you deserve it.
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Jodi
_Fiat Justitia_
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### Author:  [@Dannyboy99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dannyboy99)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2000, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/davidb-should-resign-or-be-replaced/4072/179 "2000-01-28T00:44:00Z")
Scylla you are wrong. Replace your troll sniffing services with some “community service” time. I am a student of psychology as well as of the world. I merely attempt to show what BOTH sides of the fence are like. I am obviously not the only one to note this though. You seem rather abrasive too. I watched his interaction with your hedgehog threads for a while and laughed. You seemed friendly enough there. Et Tu Brute? I heard this in another form said by Newton in the headlights thread. Sad dont you think? That rather than refrain from further damaging another fellow human being you would strike.
Consider that.
Danny
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### Author:  [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2000, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/davidb-should-resign-or-be-replaced/4072/180 "2000-01-28T00:45:00Z")
When the fit hit the shan over New Years, and mbagnall’s crack shock troops invaded to defend their board, the most obnoxious poster called himself **Lurker007**.
He spammed the board with literally dozens of identical posts daring **DavidB** to ban him in record time.
It seems his tactics have gotten a little more subtle in the game.
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