# Daylight Saving Time Ends **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 1, 2015, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-ends/736321 "2015-11-01T07:01:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-ends/736321/21 "2015-11-02T01:04:43Z")
> [@user\_hostile](#): > > I’m texting this while I drive and I would like to point out why this is factually inco At least you were wearing your seat belt. > [@cochrane](#): > > Now, New Mexico would be different, because it’s in another country. 😉 Ask that guy who was on Jeopardy. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-ends/736321/22 "2015-11-02T01:06:10Z")
I guess I’ll stay up to watch _The Walking Dead_. Tomorrow is a commuting day, and 0430 will be like 0530. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-ends/736321/23 "2015-11-02T01:08:33Z")
We need to go onto Daylight Wasting Time and stay there. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-ends/736321/24 "2015-11-02T01:09:31Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > We need to go onto Daylight Wasting Time and stay there. If this means we need to stay on Standard Time, this is one of the few areas where you and I agree. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-ends/736321/25 "2015-11-02T01:54:34Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I put daylight into my savings account every year yet I still end up with less daylight every time it ends. I think this whole thing is a scam. “It’s the economy, stupid!” Why, I can remember back in the mid-1980’s when interest rates were 14% (for something like a 3-year CD). Save an hour of daylight for a year in those days, and get about 68 minutes back! ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-ends/736321/26 "2015-11-02T12:12:58Z")
Finally, I don’t have to drive to work in the dark today. I’ve been quite eager for this time change. I really hate driving in the dark. You can’t see the deer and the headlights from the other cars are blinding. ---
**Author:** ![tonyfop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/85f322/32.png) [@tonyfop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tonyfop)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-ends/736321/27 "2015-11-02T12:25:48Z")
Yeah, now I get to leave in the dark, but get to work when it is getting light. Until next week, when it will be all dark again. ---
**Author:** ![Gedd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gedd/32/4938_2.png) [@Gedd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gedd)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-ends/736321/28 "2015-11-02T14:32:39Z")
If [public opinion](http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/lifestyle/general_lifestyle/march_2014/just_33_see_the_purpose_of_daylight_saving_time) is so against this stupid thing, [statistic say](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time)it doesn’t save energy, but causes accidents, is bad for your health, and the farmers hate it, how can we kill it once and for all!? (I was plotting a political campaign after my kids woke me up at 5:00AM yesterday) ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-ends/736321/29 "2015-11-02T15:39:32Z")
Bah. Let’s just stick to daylight savings time. At least there is some light in the evenings when it’s useful. ---
**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-ends/736321/30 "2015-11-02T16:21:33Z")
> [@Gedd](#): > > If [public opinion](http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/lifestyle/general_lifestyle/march_2014/just_33_see_the_purpose_of_daylight_saving_time) is so against this stupid thing, [statistic say](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time)it doesn’t save energy, but causes accidents, is bad for your health, and the farmers hate it, how can we kill it once and for all!? > > (I was plotting a political campaign after my kids woke me up at 5:00AM yesterday) That’s what I don’t understand and worse, it wasn’t that long ago that we even extended it so it lasts longer. There’s supposed to be some other benefits about when the daylight hours are and all–getting light super early in the morning in the summer is lame–but I still don’t understand how all of these costs are worth it. Why can’t the people that benefit from it adjust their schedules and let the people who don’t do whatever they want. So, for example, if some restaurant finds they get more business earlier in the summer, why can’t they just open an hour or so earlier in the summer to accommodate? And I get that some people don’t get flexibility in their work hours, so they have to work whenever, but many of those are still tied to businesses that have hours that, in theory, are tied to when it makes sense to do business. So if certain other businesses see benefit to adjusting their hours to when the light is, they can, and other ones that don’t, like a generic office job, can leave it alone. And I definitely don’t want to do permanent DST, that’s just silly. The time should reflect where the sun is. If people find they’d rather get up sooner or later, general business hours can adjust from 9-5 to 8-4 or 10-6 or whatever. I’d rather have 12:00 actually be true noon and work 8-4 than have 1:00 true noon and work 9-5, the end result is the same, I’m working 4 hours before true noon and 4 hours after. Really, it seems to me that this is a case of doing something just because we’ve always done it that way. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-ends/736321/31 "2015-11-02T16:29:33Z")
It’s a dumb system. The earth is not flat anymore. It might have made sense to shift the time based on the locale but we haven’t been able to keep time zones straight because it doesn’t suit the people in one location or another. Let’s just go to GMT, people can handle it. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-ends/736321/32 "2015-11-02T16:33:08Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > More good news: tomorrow is statistically one of the most dangerous days to drive because of the time change throwing people’s sleep off. I have a hard time believing this. It’s \*one \*hour, not five. My sleep times vary by more than one hour every night, don’t most people’s? ---
**Author:** ![Gedd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gedd/32/4938_2.png) [@Gedd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gedd)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-ends/736321/33 "2015-11-02T17:04:05Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I have a hard time believing this. It’s \*one \*hour, not five. My sleep times vary by more than one hour every night, don’t most people’s? Your body has [several functions](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circadian_rhythm#/media/File:Biological_clock_human.svg)besides sleep that are based on the light-dark cycle. Suddenly changing everything an hour can throw off your circadian rhythm. ---
**Author:** ![Mithras](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@Mithras](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mithras)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-ends/736321/34 "2015-11-02T17:24:43Z")
> [@Blaster\_Master](#): > > And I definitely don’t want to do permanent DST, that’s just silly. The time should reflect where the sun is. If people find they’d rather get up sooner or later, general business hours can adjust from 9-5 to 8-4 or 10-6 or whatever. I’d rather have 12:00 actually be true noon and work 8-4 than have 1:00 true noon and work 9-5, the end result is the same, I’m working 4 hours before true noon and 4 hours after. Time zones are so large that relative to the sun, noon doesn’t frequently mean “true noon” even on standard time. For example, today true noon in Bangor, Maine is about 11:20 and in Lansign, Michigan it’s 12:20. Personally, I’ve got some leaves I’d like to rake today. Even though I do tend to work 8 to 4, it’d be much more convenient if sunset was more than a half an hour after I get home. I’d jump at permanently going ahead two hours if that were on the table. ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-ends/736321/35 "2015-11-02T17:33:56Z")
Ah yes, time to change the clocks. The kids (5 years old & 10 months old) were both up bright & early yesterday. Neither is old enough to understand the concept of time change, or that mom & dad would really like to sleep in. God I effing hate Daylight Savings Time. If it’s so great, we should stay on it the whole year. If it isn’t (and the overwheleming majority seem to agree that it sucks), then why don’t we just dump the concept into the dustbin of history, next to phrenology and cold fusion? Either way would work, but the only time we should ever have to change the clocks is after a power outage. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-ends/736321/36 "2015-11-02T18:27:46Z")
I’d actually prefer an inverted system. I’d want to “save” daylight in the evening, so that we don’t wind up with darkness at 5pm in the winter. I’m okay with it getting dark at 8pm in the summer. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-ends/736321/37 "2015-11-02T19:05:14Z")
Why do we still do it? I would not mind permanent DST, but this useless changing is just irritating. It was supposed to save energy during the war, but apparently doesn’t, at least not any more. ---
**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-ends/736321/38 "2015-11-02T19:17:06Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > We need to go onto Daylight Wasting Time and stay there. What I want to know is, when do we get to spend all this daylight we’ve been saving? I’m old enough now that I must be owed weeks of daylight, plus interest at say one minute per day, which I feel is reasonable. I would like to withdraw some of it to be used in January, but I don’t know where you apply. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-ends/736321/39 "2015-11-02T19:34:22Z")
> [@Hari\_Seldon](#): > > Why do we still do it? I would not mind permanent DST, but this useless changing is just irritating. It was supposed to save energy during the war, but apparently doesn’t, at least not any more. Where I live, not changing the clocks would either mean sunrise at 4:40AM in the summer or 8:50AM in the winter. Personally, I’m all for it. ---
**Author:** ![Bookkeeper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bookkeeper/32/281_2.png) [@Bookkeeper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bookkeeper)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-ends/736321/40 "2015-11-02T20:20:42Z")
What we \*should \*be doing is saving an hour a day from midday in summer, and paying it back in winter. I’d gladly go to a 23-hour day in summer for that extra hour of bright sun in midwinter. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-ends/736321.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-ends/736321.md?page=3)