# Daylight Saving Time (in USA) **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 12, 2017, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-in-usa/782000 "2017-03-12T14:51:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2017, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-in-usa/782000/81 "2017-03-14T00:29:22Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Daylight savings time. > > This is why Benjamin Franklin was never President. [What? Yes he was.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin#President_of_Pennsylvania) ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2017, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-in-usa/782000/82 "2017-03-14T03:58:24Z")
Love it, glad we have it, all you haters are wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2017, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-in-usa/782000/83 "2017-03-15T00:01:39Z")
Newfoundland is a little wonky, as its time zone is half an hour later than Atlantic Standard Time and ADT. But in 1988, it went to Double Daylight Saving Time, moving the clocks 2 hours instead of 1. That was a pain, and the reason given was the minister responsible wanted more daylight hours for baseball. I don’t care if it’s standard time or DST, but the switch each way is hard on me. ---
**Author:** ![Navy\_draftee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ec9cab/32.png) [@Navy\_draftee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Navy_draftee)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2017, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-in-usa/782000/84 "2017-03-15T03:02:12Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > What do farmers have to do with it? You think farmers are anxiously looking at their watch, wishing they could go out and start milking the cows, but it’s not 8:00 yet? When DST first started, dairy farmers were vehemently opposed. The reason was places they did business with…milk hauler, feed store, veterinarian, equipment route man…they all abided by the DST. however, "Mother Nature " still was on standard time and thus hay couldn’t be baled until the dew was off. Thus, you had to abide by DST with milking cows, standard time while baling hay, then DST if anything broke down and places were already closed while it still was daylight later in the day. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2017, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-in-usa/782000/85 "2017-03-15T16:03:13Z")
> [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > Nit pick: it’s Daylight Saving Time. No “s” at the end of saving. 😉 > No one in the thread has yet to establish a valid reason why it should be scrapped. Saying that it bugs you, or that you have trouble adjusting is being selfish. For those of us who don’t have trouble adjusting, why should we give in to your particular whims? > > The main argument against DST is that the assumed benefits of it aren’t clearly occurring in actuality. Thus, we could argue that there is no “need” for it. > > However, I predict that, should we stop going on DST, then we’d immediately be facing complaints all summer long about how the sun now goes down too early. And if we simply stay on DST (that is, if we accept that the sun should be at zenith at 1:00 pm), then all winter long everyone would bitch about how the sun isn’t up early enough. :dubious: It causes an spike in heart attacks > **[Watch Out: Daylight Saving Time May Cause Heart Attack Spike](https://www.livescience.com/50068-daylight-saving-time-heart-attacks.html)** > > Spring daylight saving is linked to an increased risk of heart attack, possibly because losing an hour of sleep can be stressful, experts say. Its literally a matter of life and death. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2017, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-in-usa/782000/86 "2017-03-15T16:11:51Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > It causes an spike in heart attacks > > [Watch Out: Daylight Saving Time Causes Heart Attack Spike | Live Science](http://www.livescience.com/50068-daylight-saving-time-heart-attacks.html) > > Its literally a matter of life and death. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![BwanaBob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bwanabob/32/2985_2.png) [@BwanaBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BwanaBob)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2017, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-in-usa/782000/87 "2017-03-15T16:19:23Z")
I don’t mind the switches. I just wish it would occur on Friday night/Saturday morning so I’d have the whole weekend to adjust. ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2017, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-in-usa/782000/88 "2017-03-15T16:38:21Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > It causes an spike in heart attacks > > [Watch Out: Daylight Saving Time Causes Heart Attack Spike | Live Science](http://www.livescience.com/50068-daylight-saving-time-heart-attacks.html) > > Its literally a matter of life and death. Correlation is not causation. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2017, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-in-usa/782000/89 "2017-03-15T16:56:18Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > It causes an spike in heart attacks > > [Watch Out: Daylight Saving Time Causes Heart Attack Spike | Live Science](http://www.livescience.com/50068-daylight-saving-time-heart-attacks.html) > > Its literally a matter of life and death. You own cite points out that the spike in heart attacks on the Monday is compensated for by a decrease in heart attacks for the rest of that week, ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-in-usa/782000/90 "2017-03-16T02:33:24Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > One issue is that, at least in the northern part of the U.S., you wind up with dawn in December and January coming relatively late in the morning. (I know, I know, people in Canada and Ireland will tell us that that’s no big deal. 😃 ) With Standard Time it’s completely dark by 4:20pm in mid-December. A later sunrise instead would be more welcomed by many people. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-in-usa/782000/91 "2017-03-16T12:55:34Z")
> [@Hermitian](#): > > I am also in the “no big deal” camp on the time change. I am always amazed at how people moan over a single hour switch. > > Does anyone here fly? You would think if these people flew from one coast to the other they would be permanently disfigured by the 3 hour change. Never to recover! I struggle with time changes. When I moved from CA to MD, I struggled for weeks with the 3 hour shift in time. My body insisted that it _wasn’t that late_. So, I was constantly incredibly short of sleep and I’m one of the lucky people who feels nausea when short of sleep, so that was great. Loved it! I’m normally a person who knows exactly what time it is when I wake up, for example. I’ve got a very firm sense of time when I’m sleeping, for whatever reason, and I normally wake up naturally just before an alarm goes off. That doesn’t happen following time changes. A one hour shift is less severe, obviously, but it’s bad. This week has been nasty. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-in-usa/782000/92 "2017-03-16T14:46:32Z")
It’s a pain in the ass. Umpteen clocks in the house that need changing, from the thermostat to the oven to wall clocks. Then there’s the cars. Gotta get the owner’s manual out in the case of our new car. How about we just split the difference and go halfway between ST and DT? ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-in-usa/782000/93 "2017-03-16T15:33:47Z")
For those who say they want longer daylight hours in summer to do stuff (outdoor activities etc) - is it really preferable to do those activities in the evening rather than the morning? If anything, I’d rather go for a bike ride before work when it’s cooler. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-in-usa/782000/94 "2017-03-16T15:39:35Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > is it really preferable to do those activities in the evening rather than the morning? Yes, it’s much easier to organize people in the evening, and you can go out for drinks after. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-saving-time-in-usa/782000.md?page=4)