# Daylight Savings Time is bassackwards **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 5, 2008, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings-time-is-bassackwards/471375 "2008-11-05T23:40:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings-time-is-bassackwards/471375/1 "2008-11-05T23:40:05Z")
I left the office at 6:30 and it’s already dark. If we’re going to fiddle with the clocks, we should do it so we have that extra hour of daylight in the winter – when we **need** it, because the natural daylight period is **shorter.** ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings-time-is-bassackwards/471375/2 "2008-11-05T23:42:58Z")
You’d prefer to get up and drive to work in the dark? ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings-time-is-bassackwards/471375/3 "2008-11-05T23:44:08Z")
We should do away with it altogether. Fuck the farmers. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings-time-is-bassackwards/471375/4 "2008-11-05T23:46:39Z")
[It has little or nothing to do with the farmers](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/861/what-are-we-trying-to-accomplish-with-daylight-saving-time-anyway). ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings-time-is-bassackwards/471375/5 "2008-11-05T23:56:16Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > You’d prefer to get up and drive to work in the dark? I’d prefer to get up and lounge about in my smoking jacket sipping mint juleps, giving my servants directions, but that shit isn’t happening either. So fuck it. I’m a ho, I’m a ho, so off to work I go. ---
**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings-time-is-bassackwards/471375/6 "2008-11-06T00:55:39Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > You’d prefer to get up and drive to work in the dark? Given that you have to be in the dark at one end of the day at least, what would I rather do: drive to work in the dark and have some personal time in which I can do outdoor activities, or have my breakfast in daylight and drive home in the dark? It’s not a difficult decision. I would happily trade a whole morning of darkness to get a full evening of daylight. Except at weekends - then daylight can start at 9am. ---
**Author:** ![Oregon\_sunshine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/50afbb/32.png) [@Oregon\_sunshine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oregon_sunshine)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings-time-is-bassackwards/471375/7 "2008-11-06T00:59:36Z")
I think that since the time change hit, we are now in the dark both directly before and right after my work hours. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![freekalette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/50afbb/32.png) [@freekalette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/freekalette)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings-time-is-bassackwards/471375/8 "2008-11-06T01:08:57Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > You’d prefer to get up and drive to work in the dark? How about having some daylight left _after_ work? Everyone I know works indoors, so it doesn’t matter much if it’s dark when you\* go in, but once you get home, it’s dark and tends to make you want to stay inside and veg. \*general you ---
**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings-time-is-bassackwards/471375/9 "2008-11-06T01:09:56Z")
> [@Oregon\_sunshine](#): > > I think that since the time change hit, we are now in the dark both directly before and right after my work hours. ☹ You are just working too much! ---
**Author:** ![Atomic\_Mama](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5ac83/32.png) [@Atomic\_Mama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atomic_Mama)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings-time-is-bassackwards/471375/10 "2008-11-06T01:12:56Z")
Try living in Alaska! Then you’ll really know how useless “Daylight Savings” is! ---
**Author:** ![Palo\_Verde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/65b543/32.png) [@Palo\_Verde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palo_Verde)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings-time-is-bassackwards/471375/11 "2008-11-06T01:13:00Z")
I live in Arizona. We never switch our clocks. I LOVE it. No more arriving an hour late or early twice a year. No switching every clock in the house. No trying to get the kids to go to bed unnaturally early or late. I think it’s a dumb idea and I wish the whole country would get rid of it. ---
**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings-time-is-bassackwards/471375/12 "2008-11-06T01:20:59Z")
> [@autz](#): > > I live in Arizona. We never switch our clocks. I LOVE it. This can be achieved by having permanent DST, which I would LOVE. Well, except that I would then prefer double DST in summer. ---
**Author:** ![Chez\_Guevara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aeb1de/32.png) [@Chez\_Guevara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chez_Guevara)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings-time-is-bassackwards/471375/13 "2008-11-06T01:43:02Z")
> [@amarone](#): > > This can be achieved by having permanent DST, which I would LOVE. Well, except that I would then prefer double DST in summer. According to a farmer quoted in **Knorf** ’s post #4 link: > [@](#): > > The reason we are against daylight saving time is that our crops can’t stand the extra hour of sun in the dry part of the year. They burn up and wilt. If DST has this adverse effect on crops, it’s more than possible that double DST would send the entire US arable farming output up in smoke. ---
**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings-time-is-bassackwards/471375/14 "2008-11-06T02:07:40Z")
> [@Chez\_Guevara](#): > > If DST has this adverse effect on crops, it’s more than possible that double DST would send the entire US arable farming output up in smoke. Well possibly, but I am more worried about how we would handle the [surplus](http://www.theonion.com/content/node/54363) DST. ---
**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings-time-is-bassackwards/471375/15 "2008-11-06T02:48:02Z")
The farmers get up when they need to. they don’t care what the clock says. In winter we go to work with the sun low in the sky blinding us, and end up going home in the dark. You then spend 4 months with no sunlight in your yard all week days when you’re home. The best part is most people work in lighted buildings that use the same amount of electrical lighting no matter what time of day it is. ---
**Author:** ![BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings-time-is-bassackwards/471375/16 "2008-11-06T03:41:56Z")
> [@autz](#): > > I live in Arizona. We never switch our clocks. I LOVE it. > > No more arriving an hour late or early twice a year. No switching every clock in the house. No trying to get the kids to go to bed unnaturally early or late. > > I think it’s a dumb idea and I wish the whole country would get rid of it. Move to Japan. We don’t have it (although there has been some discussion about it) and it sucks. During the summer, if you stay up watching TV or whatnot until 3:30, you see the sky begin to get lighter. Then the sun comes up at 4:30, making it impossible to sleep without curtains. There should not be a sun until at least 5 AM! Gone too, are the long summer days where the sun’s up until past 9:00. Nope, at 7:30 you have to start thinking about leaving the beach. Ta hell with that. No, it’s not DST I hate, it’s in fact the rest of the year. > [@amarone](#): > > This can be achieved by having permanent DST, which I would LOVE. Well, except that I would then prefer double DST in summer. Seconded. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings-time-is-bassackwards/471375/17 "2008-11-06T03:48:29Z")
I’ll give a 3rd to Perma-DST. ---
**Author:** ![Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Man_With_a_Cat)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings-time-is-bassackwards/471375/18 "2008-11-06T03:48:32Z")
> [@Oregon\_sunshine](#): > > I think that since the time change hit, we are now in the dark both directly before and right after my work hours. ☹ Same here - a little later than now though. Usually around late November the day is short enough that I never see daylight at home. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings-time-is-bassackwards/471375/19 "2008-11-06T07:59:39Z")
> [@amarone](#): > > This can be achieved by having permanent DST, which I would LOVE. Well, except that I would then prefer double DST in summer. You are part of the problem. No, scratch that. People like you _are_ the problem. ---
**Author:** ![BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings-time-is-bassackwards/471375/20 "2008-11-06T12:28:06Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > You are part of the problem. No, scratch that. People like you _are_ the problem. what now?? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings-time-is-bassackwards/471375.md?page=2)