# Daylight Savings **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [March 8, 2015, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488 "2015-03-08T01:06:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2015, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/21 "2015-03-08T05:48:36Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > When I used to go to bars, they never stayed open an extra hour (which would have been in the fall, BTW). Maybe it’s a state law sort of thing. But the clock hits 2:00 before it moves back an hour, and that’s that, no extra hour. They did, of course, have to close early on Spring forward. I felt cheated. They did in West Texas, at least back in the day. 2am was closing time as mandated by law, but then it hit 2am and POOF! It was 1am again, and the bars stayed open until the new 2am. ---
**Author:** ![Missy2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Missy2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Missy2U)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2015, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/22 "2015-03-08T05:54:54Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > So much this. So, so much this. > > I’m getting really tired of these semi-annual bitchings about a one hour clock change, like it’s the end of the world. It’s one fucking hour. Do you never stay up an extra hour? Do you never go to bed an hour earlier? > > Jesus people. One single hour is such a non-event. Go to bed at 10:00 tonight instead of 11:00 and shut up. You aren’t the only one sick of hearing about it! It’s one freakin hour - get over it already! ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2015, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/23 "2015-03-08T06:00:03Z")
You guys got Daylight Saving already? Lucky bastards. > [@kopek](#): > > When I was a kid we had two clocks in the house and I really didn’t mind it much. Now there are like 16 things I have to reset and it will take about an hour out of my life. I don’t care which damn one we use JUST PICK ONE DAMMIT!!! That’s odd. All the clocks in my house\* seem to set themselves. - The ones my computers, the one on my phone and the ones on my DVRs. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2015, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/24 "2015-03-08T06:03:57Z")
> [@Recusant](#): > > . . . Well, no. You’re exactly like Canute: you shout and yell and bellow and roar and expect the natural world to bow to your will; it just laughs at you. The sun does not rise one hour earlier; it rises when it always does. You simply spend half the year lying about the time it does so. “Lying” is exactly the wrong word. To begin with, its offensive. But, more to the point, it’s a definition. We, by consensus and fiat, define “later” the way we’ve chosen to. We’re in charge here, if only to the tautological/circular extent of being the ones who set the clocks which we live by. So, no, you’re wrong. The sun rises an hour earlier (later? Geez, I can never figure this bit… I lose an hour of sleep, right?) because we say it does. And we get to say it does, because we’re the ones who set the clocks. It’s like driving on the right side of the road, or using your right hand to hold your soup spoon. We do it that way because we say that’s how it’s done. Canute could have had exactly the same success if he’d told his court, “Wait six hours, and then I’ll show you.” ---
**Author:** ![Napier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Napier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Napier)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2015, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/25 "2015-03-08T11:15:58Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > “Lying” is exactly the wrong word. […] Hmmm. You’re technically right, of course. And yet I think I like the hatred that “lying” can imply. I’m sticking with it. I also kind of like that so many people spell it with the extra “s”. It kind of underscores the shaky nature of the whole arrangement. ---
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2015, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/26 "2015-03-08T11:46:05Z")
I still can’t figure out how the haters ever travel. Does moving a single time zone take them weeks to adjust? ---
**Author:** ![Ms\_Boods](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5e9695/32.png) [@Ms\_Boods](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ms_Boods)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2015, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/27 "2015-03-08T12:14:55Z")
The one tha bugs me is the spring time change because I seem invariably to be traveling to the US at this time of year; I frequently get to do the lose-an-hour-of-sleep-twice! (Clocks don’t change at home until the end of March). As someone who prefers rain, gloom, and darkness, my favourite time of year is the autumn clock change. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2015, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/28 "2015-03-08T16:03:23Z")
> [@even\_sven](#): > > I still can’t figure out how the haters ever travel. Does moving a single time zone take them weeks to adjust? I once had to meet up with a group in San Francisco, and one guy in the group flew in from Vermont. He was so jet-lagged that he was practically bedridden for a couple of days. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2015, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/29 "2015-03-08T16:05:42Z")
Just when I was able to drive to work in daylight… ☹ ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2015, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/30 "2015-03-08T16:24:02Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Just when I was able to drive to work in daylight… ☹ I kinda like driving into work in the dark. Otherwise, I feel like I should be doing something fun. Or at least working on my own stuff. My Wife left at 3:15 this morning to do a few hours of work, and is then going to ski with a friend and then go back to work. I forced myself to stay in bed till nearly 6am. Yep, we are all different. ---
**Author:** ![Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrogance_ex_machina/32/192_2.png) [@Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arrogance_Ex_Machina)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2015, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/31 "2015-03-08T16:34:19Z")
DST is especially silly this far north - for us, it takes all of three weeks for day length to grow by an hour to both directions so going through all the trouble to get sunset at 8pm on 29th of March instead of late April seems just silly. By the time it is summer there’s not much darkness left either way, DST just means sunset at midnight instead of 11pm. As a night/morning shift worker, it does mean 6 extra weeks of dark for me. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2015, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/32 "2015-03-08T17:44:36Z")
> [@even\_sven](#): > > I still can’t figure out how the haters ever travel. Does moving a single time zone take them weeks to adjust? They only travel, from pole to pole, within their own time zone. ---
**Author:** ![funky\_little\_lee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e95f7d/32.png) [@funky\_little\_lee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/funky_little_lee)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2015, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/33 "2015-03-08T23:36:37Z")
I think DST is dumb. So you have more light later. How does that save energy when you still have to turn all the lights on in the morning instead of the evening? Maybe at one time it served a purpose, but I think that time is gone. I’d prefer Standard Time all year 'round. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/34 "2015-03-09T00:03:09Z")
I can get in 9 holes of golf after work from May till September. That’s the purpose of daylight saving time. ---
**Author:** ![freckafree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/freckafree/32/3050_2.png) [@freckafree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/freckafree)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/35 "2015-03-09T00:09:14Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > Why can’t they fix it so that we get an extra hour of daylight in the morning _and_ in the evening, in exchange for an hour of darkness in the middle of the day when I’m indoors working? I think this is a brilliant solution. Please make it so. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/36 "2015-03-09T00:15:33Z")
I lived in a place that did not do DST and it kind of sucked. In the winter it was still dark at 7:00 am. I hated that. My suggestion though is the hour forward should be done on a Friday at 4 pm so we all get to leave work early 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/37 "2015-03-09T00:20:56Z")
> [@funky\_little\_lee](#): > > I think DST is dumb. So you have more light later. How does that save energy when you still have to turn all the lights on in the morning instead of the evening? Maybe at one time it served a purpose, but I think that time is gone. > > I’d prefer Standard Time all year 'round. For myself, I like the extra outside daylight to do stuff after work. I have to turn on lights in the morning anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/38 "2015-03-09T00:28:00Z")
I really must insist that you all read the following obituary. You may already have. It went viral two years ago when the honoree, Harry Stamps, died. See, he hated Daylight Saving Time and it went into his obituary. In lieu of flowers you were asked to contribute to the university he taught at, and also to write your Congressperson, asking them to repealDST. He even died on the day before “spring forward” and his family took that as a sign. > **[Harry Stamps Obituary (2013) - Long Beach, MS - The Sun Herald](https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/sunherald/name/harry-stamps-obituary?id=7744317)** > > View Harry Stamps's obituary, send flowers and sign the guestbook. ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/39 "2015-03-09T01:01:35Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Umm… Ok I’ll vote. Keep ‘Daylight savings’ year round. I get up at 5am and go to work. Don’t need light for that. It’s always dark when I go to work. Standard time or Daylight saving. I much prefer having extra light when I get home. I think it needs to stay Daylight Saving time year round too. I don’t often agree with the Boston Globe but they had an editorial recently that advocated that New England (or Massachusetts at least) switch to the Atlantic Time Zone just like the far Eastern Canadian Maritimes and much of the Caribbean (it is the same as being on Eastern Daylight Saving Time year round without having to explain a special exception as much). I would be all over that. It is ridiculous when it get dark about 4pm around Christmas and not much better for the months both before and after it. Early morning people can bite my ass. They obviously like waking up at the ass crack of dawn so give them the added satisfaction of doing it even more in the dark. School kids don’t count either. My young daughters still have to get on the bus in the complete dark during the Winter so it is all downside. The farmers don’t care either. They work when the conditions are most favorable no matter what the clocks say. Shagnasty for President or Governor! Thank you! My entire platform is that people need sunlight at the end of the day and we should do everything we can by making arbitrary and completely artificial but practically meaningful changes to make that happen. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/40 "2015-03-09T01:59:47Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > I may favor DST but it’s currently overextended IMO; it’s supposed to be “Spring forward”, not “late winter forward”. Heh. I knew a guy – and it was that same one from Vermont I mentioned earlier – who never could get that expression right. He honestly thought – and I am convinced he was not trying to be funny, you just had to know the guy – it was “Spring backward, fall forward.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488.md?page=3)