# Daylight Savings

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [March 8, 2015, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488 "2015-03-08T01:06:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/61 "2015-03-10T03:28:43Z")

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I feel like the wreck of the Hesperus.

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**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/62 "2015-03-10T05:31:04Z")

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I dislike it and my wife is all bent out of shape by it.

And, my Outlook calendar was screwed up for about 24 hours. It still showed China as being 16 hours ahead of PST, when it was really 15. And I had a really important concall on Sunday night PST/Monday Morning China that I couldn’t screw up and outlook was showing the wrong times…

Resolved itself today and now showing the correct time.

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**Author:** ![Wednesday\_Evening](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b2d939/32.png) [@Wednesday\_Evening](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wednesday_Evening)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/63 "2015-03-10T18:44:32Z")

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When I rule the world, here in the US we will split the difference. We will fall back 1/2 hour in November and stay there. Maybe I will rework the time zones while I’m at it. **LSLGuy** is right, Eastern is way too wide.

I will also abolish non-SI units and get rid of the penny.

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**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/64 "2015-03-10T20:11:49Z")

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> [@Wednesday\_Evening](#):
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> When I rule the world, here in the US we will split the difference. We will fall back 1/2 hour in November and stay there. Maybe I will rework the time zones while I’m at it. **LSLGuy** is right, Eastern is way too wide.
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> I will also abolish non-SI units and get rid of the penny.

The dollar bill too while you are at it please.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/65 "2015-03-10T20:17:36Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> I can get in 9 holes of golf after work from May till September. That’s the purpose of daylight saving time.

You could work from 8 to 4 from May to September. Or 7 to 3, or whatever it would be for you.

Seriously, the whole practice of DST is about people with a particular schedule assuming the clocks (and everyone else’s schedule) should change to fit them, instead of them just changing their schedule. Why am I not surprised it includes, significantly, golfers in Tronna. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/66 "2015-03-10T20:57:52Z")

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I’m fine with the concept, but not the current execution. Way too early. First weekend in April is fine. I don’t like it when it’s dark so late in the AM.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/67 "2015-03-10T21:01:00Z")

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I like DST fine. That said, if the economic arguments against it are correct, I’m fine with switching to a single time, but I like the “extra hour” of sun at the end of the day we have now. I suppose everyone could just move back their schedules one hour, but good luck with that.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/68 "2015-03-10T23:53:52Z")

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I oppose time zones, Daylight Saving Time, leap years, and leap seconds. International Atomic Time all the way.

However, the terrancentric approach to timekeeping disturbs me. I would prefer a timebase in a reference frame that is stationary relative to the cosmic background radiation.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/69 "2015-03-11T00:18:02Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> You could work from 8 to 4 from May to September. Or 7 to 3, or whatever it would be for you.
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> Seriously, the whole practice of DST is about people with a particular schedule assuming the clocks (and everyone else’s schedule) should change to fit them, instead of them just changing their schedule. Why am I not surprised it includes, significantly, golfers in Tronna. :rolleyes:

I’m actually in Ottawa. And not everyone can shift their work hours by an hour. I can, but I golf with a group, and not everyone has the flexibility.

Besides, why would you NOT want an extra hour of daylight after work? By the summer solstice it’s getting light here 5:14 AM. I don’t think I need daylight at 4:14 AM.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/70 "2015-03-11T04:14:30Z")

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I think it’s hard on those who work evenings, actually.

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**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/71 "2015-03-11T13:48:49Z")

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[Texas is considering getting rid of DST.](http://kxan.com/2015/03/11/texas-bill-could-nix-daylight-saving/)

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/72 "2015-03-11T14:09:05Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> I guess people who go to church suffer. But they like suffering.

I suffered because I forgot all about DST and missed church. ☹

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/73 "2015-03-11T14:50:11Z")

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> [@UncleRojelio](#):
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> [Texas is considering getting rid of DST.](http://kxan.com/2015/03/11/texas-bill-could-nix-daylight-saving/)

No comment on the bill itself, but I liked the statement in the article that this change will “give people more daylight hours”. Canute lives!!!

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**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/74 "2015-03-11T15:15:19Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> No comment on the bill itself, but I liked the statement in the article that this change will “give people more daylight hours”. Canute lives!!!

Also, instead of Central Standard Time, we are just going to call it Texas Time.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/75 "2015-03-11T15:45:08Z")

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A coworker believes DST was created to benefit farmers. Something about them being able to do more work while it’s light out. I tried in vain to argue that farmers can work whatever hours they want, and that the sun isn’t affected by arbitrary time designations.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/76 "2015-03-11T15:55:37Z")

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> [@UncleRojelio](#):
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> Also, instead of Central Standard Time, we are just going to call it Texas Time.

Given the existence of the C&W song “Livin’ on Tulsa Time”, I think they’re handing a really big stick to the humorists & nay-sayers. Parody lyrics will be (deservedly IMO) rampant.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/77 "2015-03-11T16:03:00Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> A coworker believes DST was created to benefit farmers. Something about them being able to do more work while it’s light out.

That’s interesting.

It’s the opposite of what some farmers reported in the [SD column](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1079/whats-the-purpose-of-daylight-saving-time).

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**Author:** ![california\_jobcase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9d8465/32.png) [@california\_jobcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/california_jobcase)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/78 "2015-03-11T16:14:19Z")

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I grew up in Indiana. When I was a tot, I didn’t have a set bedtime in the summer, and I was allowed to sleep late in the mornings. I loved DST! It stayed light out way past 9 PM!

Then the drive-in movie theater lobby ruined it and Indiana quit doing DST. I was quite disappointed. Indiana went back on DST a while back, but I just don’t care any more one way or the other.

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**Author:** ![MrsTime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@MrsTime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrsTime)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/79 "2015-03-11T16:26:00Z")

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Daylight savings time needs to be abolished , at least in more northern areas. Here in my part of BC and certainly more north of here winter is a very depressing time, the sun comes up around 9:00 AM (if at all) and it is dark again around 4:00 PM. Meaning children and adults too go to school or work in the dark and come home in the dark. Then we have those people who suffer from light deprivation in winter. Then along comes daylight savings time, it is getting light at 4:00 AM stays light until 10:00 PM. Making for tired whiny kids (“why do we have to go to bed it is still light out?”) and sleep deprived adults who are then less productive at work. We aren’t a citizenry of farmers any more, hey there, I buy all my food at the grocery store. When we lived in the Yukon they still had daylight savings time in summer when one could read a newspaper in the all night long twilight. Canada simply does not need daylight savings time and should seriously think about ending it, we do not have to follow every thing the US does. If Canada needs to change time, give us more light in winter not summer!

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daylight-savings/714488/80 "2015-03-11T16:33:24Z")

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> [@MrsTime](#):
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> If Canada needs to change time, give us more light in winter not summer!

Unless I’m mistaken about your intent, that’s just physically impossible. Whether the sun rises at 9am and sets at 3pm or rises at 10am and sets at 4pm, you have 6 hours of daylight. That’s not going to change no matter how you set your clocks.

Also, it’s not about farmers (see the SD column linked in my previous post). It’s about saving energy, though there’s some debate about how much energy it really saves anymore.

Likewise, it’s not about following the US. Europe also has summer hours, and this includes places much further north than most of BC, like most of Sweden and Norway.

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