# Dayna Morales, the waitress who claims she didn't get tipped because of her homosexuality, exposed. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 26, 2013, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dayna-morales-the-waitress-who-claims-she-didnt-get-tipped-because-of-her-homosexuality-exposed/674823 "2013-11-26T15:21:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dayna-morales-the-waitress-who-claims-she-didnt-get-tipped-because-of-her-homosexuality-exposed/674823/21 "2013-11-26T16:03:14Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > True enough. At this time we don’t know which receipt is valid, though the evidence is leaning towards the customer at this time. If it was just the receipt I would say its still up in the air. But the fact that the customer also produced the credit card receipt puts it way in their favor. They were never named specifically in the news so there was no need for them to come forward to clear their name. [Here](http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Gay-Server-Tip-Lifestyle-Receipt-Discrepancy-233040811.html) is the actual story, not the retold version. The customers came forward to the local NBC affiliate. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dayna-morales-the-waitress-who-claims-she-didnt-get-tipped-because-of-her-homosexuality-exposed/674823/22 "2013-11-26T16:03:55Z")
Labby, you’d have gotten a lot more traction if you’d accused Czarcasm of avoiding “servers getting stiffed because of their gayness”. As far as I know, no one has claimed “attention-seeking assholes going to facebook and media outlets with sensational stories” and anyway being skeptical of that would be the opposite of the lesson learned here. ---
**Author:** ![Jesse\_Pinkman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a183cd/32.png) [@Jesse\_Pinkman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jesse_Pinkman)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dayna-morales-the-waitress-who-claims-she-didnt-get-tipped-because-of-her-homosexuality-exposed/674823/23 "2013-11-26T16:05:22Z")
I think that even if these two stories were initially true, they didn’t deserve the news coverage they originally got. People are assholes and assholes sometimes stiff people for asshole reasons. While it’s shitty, it’s not really news. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dayna-morales-the-waitress-who-claims-she-didnt-get-tipped-because-of-her-homosexuality-exposed/674823/24 "2013-11-26T16:06:56Z")
> [@bup](#): > > If that’s the waitress’s own handwriting on the receipt, she’s pretty stupid and a liar. > > If it’s not hers, it’s entirely possible she got set up by someone else at the restaurant (who pocketed her tip). > > She claims to be donating everything that was donated to her to _Wounded Warriors Project_. It’ll be really interesting to see if that checks out. I wouldn’t be surprised if she started feeling like everything had spiraled out of control, and decided to donate the funds that were coming in. I don’t think anyone could have possibly taken her tip out of that credit card payment. Most servers have to punch in the number of the actual reciepts into the machine at the end of the night. Those numbers are different that the amounts charged when it is initally swiped. Since the credit card statement shows the $111 amount, we pretty much know she’s lying. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dayna-morales-the-waitress-who-claims-she-didnt-get-tipped-because-of-her-homosexuality-exposed/674823/25 "2013-11-26T16:07:36Z")
> [@kstarnes](#): > > In her defense, the waitress who perpetrated this particular hoax may have felt that a bad tip was a tantamount to the N-word. $18 on a $93 bill. Not a bad tip. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dayna-morales-the-waitress-who-claims-she-didnt-get-tipped-because-of-her-homosexuality-exposed/674823/26 "2013-11-26T16:08:34Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > As far as I know, no one has claimed “attention-seeking assholes going to facebook and media outlets with sensational stories” and anyway being skeptical of that would be the opposite of the lesson learned here. Not sure what you mean here. We shouldn’t be skeptical of attention seeking assholes and their sensational stories? Because I’m positive that the OP didn’t mean we should be skeptical “that gays are being discriminated against”. Do you think that’s a reasonable assumption? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dayna-morales-the-waitress-who-claims-she-didnt-get-tipped-because-of-her-homosexuality-exposed/674823/27 "2013-11-26T16:09:19Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Labby, you’d have gotten a lot more traction if you’d accused Czarcasm of avoiding “servers getting stiffed because of their gayness”. As far as I know, no one has claimed “attention-seeking assholes going to facebook and media outlets with sensational stories” and anyway being skeptical of that would be the opposite of the lesson learned here. I didn’t avoid any other possibility-I just didn’t list every damn one of them. I even left an opening for other posters to bring up other possibilities. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dayna-morales-the-waitress-who-claims-she-didnt-get-tipped-because-of-her-homosexuality-exposed/674823/28 "2013-11-26T16:10:56Z")
Nothing more than a modern day scam. 1\> Claim not tipped and receipt says bad things. 2\> Get Publicity 3\> Profit ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dayna-morales-the-waitress-who-claims-she-didnt-get-tipped-because-of-her-homosexuality-exposed/674823/29 "2013-11-26T16:11:44Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > $18 on a $93 bill. Not a bad tip. Damn close to 20%. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dayna-morales-the-waitress-who-claims-she-didnt-get-tipped-because-of-her-homosexuality-exposed/674823/30 "2013-11-26T16:14:46Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I didn’t avoid any other possibility-I just didn’t list every damn one of them. I even left an opening for other posters to bring up other possibilities. Which I did. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dayna-morales-the-waitress-who-claims-she-didnt-get-tipped-because-of-her-homosexuality-exposed/674823/31 "2013-11-26T16:15:10Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > Not sure what you mean here. We shouldn’t be skeptical of attention seeking assholes and their sensational stories? > > Because I’m positive that the OP didn’t mean we should be skeptical “that gays are being discriminated against”. Do you think that’s a reasonable assumption? We could stop assuming and ask the OP…but I already did that, didn’t I? Didn’t get an answer yet, but he she/he did go on about outrage porn coming almost exclusively from the Liberal media. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dayna-morales-the-waitress-who-claims-she-didnt-get-tipped-because-of-her-homosexuality-exposed/674823/32 "2013-11-26T16:16:32Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > We could stop assuming and ask the OP…but I already did that, didn’t I? > Didn’t get an answer yet, but he she/he did go on about outrage porn coming almost exclusively from the Liberal media. Yeah, I didn’t get an answer to post #14 yet. I guess we’re both shit out of luck. ETA: If the OP does, in fact, turn out to be the kind of person who honeslty doesn’t believe that gays are discriminated against, then consider my apology already offered. I mean that. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dayna-morales-the-waitress-who-claims-she-didnt-get-tipped-because-of-her-homosexuality-exposed/674823/33 "2013-11-26T16:19:22Z")
> [@Malthus](#): > > There are two reasons why this particular instance is sorta interesting: > > 1. The category of sympathetic victimhood - if anything, the fact that people are now lying about being discriminated against because they are gay is kinda encouraging. Fraudsters will, of course, lie about anything they think will get them sympathy, and the fact that “being gay and discriminated against” is something a fraudster reasonably thinks will get them sympathy is sorta a backhanded example of progress … Totally. Which is why someone ranting about this (even in a mild, MPSIMS sort of way) has an air of, um, maybe not homophobia, but just anti-people-who-care-about-gays (aka liberals) feel to it. The problem the OP has seems to be that people are suckered all the time these days by lying gays, and we should be skeptical of gay people’s claims of discrimination in the future, 'cause they’re probably lying. And it’s sickening what those people do. > [@Malthus](#): > > 1. The technology means that, more than ever, a lie can go around the world before the truth gets its boots on. Truly a problem. “Be skeptical, and late to the bandwagon” is my motto. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dayna-morales-the-waitress-who-claims-she-didnt-get-tipped-because-of-her-homosexuality-exposed/674823/34 "2013-11-26T16:22:05Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > Not sure what you mean here. We shouldn’t be skeptical of attention seeking assholes and their sensational stories? > > Because I’m positive that the OP didn’t mean we should be skeptical “that gays are being discriminated against”. Do you think that’s a reasonable assumption? The op said we should be skeptical of such stories. Czarcasm asked if he meant skeptical of gay discrimination or server stiffing which he knows and we know do actually happen. What he didn’t ask was if we should be skeptical of is people getting stiffed because they’re gay, which we probably should and which was pretty obviously what was meant by the OP. You created a new claim of “attention-seeking assholes going to media outlets with sensational stories” as a claim that Czarcasm skipped. But that doesn’t fit because that’s not a claim we should be skeptical of. That’s probably what our starting assumption should be. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dayna-morales-the-waitress-who-claims-she-didnt-get-tipped-because-of-her-homosexuality-exposed/674823/35 "2013-11-26T16:24:10Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > Oh, cut the shit. You obviously thought the OP was being unreasonable by suggesting this story should make us more skeptical of anything, as evidenced by your absurd suggestions. Now you want us to believe that you were being totally sincere in asking the question “What claims should we be more skeptical of”, and that the _most_ reasonable answers you could think of to that question were the ones that you offered? > > Do I have that right? Wrong on the first part, right on the second. What I thought wasn’t apparently apparent, because I was actually puzzled as to what the OP would have society question. I never said that the two options were the most reasonable-they were the two that popped out first. Figuring that there were probably other options, I left room for others to bring them up. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dayna-morales-the-waitress-who-claims-she-didnt-get-tipped-because-of-her-homosexuality-exposed/674823/36 "2013-11-26T16:24:44Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > The op said we should be skeptical of such stories. Czarcasm asked if he meant skeptical of gay discrimination or server stiffing which he knows and we know do actually happen. What he didn’t ask was if we should be skeptical of is people getting stiffed because they’re gay, which we probably should and which was pretty obviously what was meant by the OP. > > You created a new claim of “attention-seeking assholes going to media outlets with sensational stories” as a claim that Czarcasm skipped. But that doesn’t fit because that’s not a claim we should be skeptical of. That’s probably what our starting assumption should be. Okay, so you didn’t understand that “attention seeking assholes” was what I meant we should be skeptical of? Okay, consider this matter cleared up for you. “Claims made by attention seeking assholes” would have been a better way for me to phrase it. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dayna-morales-the-waitress-who-claims-she-didnt-get-tipped-because-of-her-homosexuality-exposed/674823/37 "2013-11-26T16:28:28Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Wrong on the first part, right on the second. What I thought wasn’t apparently apparent, because I was actually puzzled as to what the OP would have society question. I never said that the two options were the most reasonable-they were the two that popped out first. Figuring that there were probably other options, I left room for others to bring them up. Okay. I don’t believe you, but I’m glad you cleared up the fact that you want us to believe you honestly thought there was a possibilty that the OP doesn’t think waitstaff ever get stiffed. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dayna-morales-the-waitress-who-claims-she-didnt-get-tipped-because-of-her-homosexuality-exposed/674823/38 "2013-11-26T16:28:45Z")
I’ve queried the OP twice now as to what he means, with no response yet. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dayna-morales-the-waitress-who-claims-she-didnt-get-tipped-because-of-her-homosexuality-exposed/674823/39 "2013-11-26T16:30:58Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > Okay. I don’t believe you, but I’m glad you cleared up the fact that you want us to believe you honestly thought there was a possibilty that the OP doesn’t think waitstaff ever get stiffed. I don’t know what the OP believes because the OP won’t respond. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dayna-morales-the-waitress-who-claims-she-didnt-get-tipped-because-of-her-homosexuality-exposed/674823/40 "2013-11-26T16:32:05Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I don’t know what the OP believes because the OP won’t respond. Yes, you’ve posted that 3 times now. We all get that the OP is smart enough not to respond to someone who is baiting him. I wish I was that smart. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dayna-morales-the-waitress-who-claims-she-didnt-get-tipped-because-of-her-homosexuality-exposed/674823.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dayna-morales-the-waitress-who-claims-she-didnt-get-tipped-because-of-her-homosexuality-exposed/674823.md?page=3)