# Days of the week on other cultures

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [December 6, 2009, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/days-of-the-week-on-other-cultures/520147 "2009-12-06T00:44:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/days-of-the-week-on-other-cultures/520147/21 "2009-12-06T06:55:17Z")

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> [@fandango](#):
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> Seven days in a week has always been close to near universal–most early cultures had months based on the cycle of the moon which is 28 days. The only way to divide this into a sub unit of days would be to have a week of either 4 days (too short), 14 days (too long) or 7 days (just right!).

Actually, a lunar cycle is just about 29.5 days long, not 28, which makes lunar calendars even more interesting. Seven is still a good divisor for 29.5…or at least it’s as good as any whole number is going to be.

Western calendar months, by the way, are just about four and a half weeks long, except of course for February. Nobody loves February.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/days-of-the-week-on-other-cultures/520147/22 "2009-12-06T06:58:08Z")

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Urdu  
Sunday: Itwar  
Monday: Peer  
Tuesday: Mangel  
Wednesday: Budh  
Thurday: Jumay-Raat  
Friday: Juma  
Saturday: Hafta

And despite what dopers who think in Streotypes may assume, Pakistans weekend is Sunday… only.

Some of the day names do have some significance, Friday is named after Juma prayers, Thursday is called “Juma-Raat”, literally “Friday Night” or the night before Friday, and Saturday is “hafta” which is the same word for week, fitting as it is the end of the week.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/days-of-the-week-on-other-cultures/520147/23 "2009-12-06T07:01:06Z")

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> [@OldGuy](#):
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> If this isn’t adopted from some Western language, that’s an amazing coincidence as those same day are associated with those same planets. Were the Sanskrit names given to the days of the weeks as “translations” of the Latin/romance names? Was there a traditional 7 day week in India?

According to Wikipedia, the [Hindu day-names](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Week-day_names#In_Hinduism) come from a text called the [Yavanajataka](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yavanajataka) which was translated from Greek in 150 CE, so it seems it is not a coincidence.

Again, [according to wikpedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven-day_week#Hindu), the seven day week was used in India at least as far back as the first century BCE.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/days-of-the-week-on-other-cultures/520147/24 "2009-12-06T07:43:56Z")

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And the Greeks conqured and had settlements in parts of what is now Pakistan at least 300 years before.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/days-of-the-week-on-other-cultures/520147/25 "2009-12-06T07:55:04Z")

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> [@Waffle\_Decider](#):
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> According to [Wiki](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_calendar#Subdivisions_of_the_month), the Japanese system was originally imported from Europe around 800 AD.

The article actually just says they’re the same ones as used in Europe, not that it was imported from there, which would be odd, since I don’t think there was any contact between the two places in 800 A.D. Presumably they inherited the system from one of the closer cultures mentioned above that used the same system.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/days-of-the-week-on-other-cultures/520147/26 "2009-12-06T08:38:58Z")

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Basque would like to throw a monkey wrench in your works.

Monday - astelehen “first of the week”  
Tuesday - astearte “middle of the week”  
Wednesday - asteasken “end of the week”  
Thursday - ostegun “sky day”  
Friday - ostiral (not sure here)  
Saturday - larunbat “one week”  
Sunday - igande (again not sure, but may have connections with the word for “ascension”)

There is some argument - don’t know if it’s backed up by firmer evidence than the names for Monday through Wednesday - that the Basque week originally had three days. But in any case there’s no deep, direct connection with elements, planets, or deities here.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/days-of-the-week-on-other-cultures/520147/27 "2009-12-06T09:45:39Z")

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In Hebrew, Sunday through Friday are just “First Day,” “Second Day…” “Sixth Day.”  
Saturday is “Shabbat” – literally “He rested,” that is, the day on which God supposedly rested after creating the world in six days. Note that the name “Sabbath” and all it’s derivatives in European languages come from the word “Shabbat.”

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/days-of-the-week-on-other-cultures/520147/28 "2009-12-06T12:34:37Z")

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> [@phi2dao](#):
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> In Japanese:
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> 日曜日 (sun day) - Sunday  
> 月曜日 (moon day) - Monday  
> 火曜日 (fire day) - Tuesday  
> 水曜日 (water day) - Wednesday  
> 木曜日 (wood day) - Thursday  
> 金曜日 (gold day) - Friday  
> 土曜日 (earth day) - Saturday

Same as Korean. Also the characters for fire, water, wood, gold, and earth are the same characters we use for Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Venus, and Saturn. Same in Thailand, it seems like.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/days-of-the-week-on-other-cultures/520147/29 "2009-12-06T12:36:29Z")

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The Swedish name for Saturday - _lördag_ - is a modern version of the old Swedish word \*løghardagher \*and means “bath day”. It’s the same thing in Norwegian (lørdag/laurdag), Danish (lørdag), Icelandic (laugardagur) and Faroese (leygardagur).

All the other days we reserve for celestial bodies and deities, but Saturday is bath time, dammit. 😃

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/days-of-the-week-on-other-cultures/520147/30 "2009-12-06T13:16:37Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> The article actually just says they’re the same ones as used in Europe, not that it was imported from there, which would be odd, since I don’t think there was any contact between the two places in 800 A.D. Presumably they inherited the system from one of the closer cultures mentioned above that used the same system.

Correct. There was not any direct contact between Japan and Europe at the time.

Note from the article,

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> The system was used for astrological purposes and little else until 1876, shortly after Japan officially adopted the Gregorian calendar. Fukuzawa Yukichi was a key figure in the decision to adopt this system as the source for official names for the days of the week.

I’m going to guess that without a Sabboth or a similar offical weekly day of rest there wasn’t a real need for days of the week. I’ve heard (no cite) that there were more summer festivals “back then” which would compensate for not having a weekly day off.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/days-of-the-week-on-other-cultures/520147/31 "2009-12-06T13:45:21Z")

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In Portugues the week begins on Sunday, Domingo, with the rest of the days being called “second day…” (secunda-feira…) in order, until Satuday which is Sábado.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/days-of-the-week-on-other-cultures/520147/32 "2009-12-06T14:42:04Z")

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> [@Walpurgis](#):
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> Saturday is bath time, dammit. 😃

And candy time!

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/days-of-the-week-on-other-cultures/520147/33 "2009-12-06T15:39:53Z")

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> [@Waffle\_Decider](#):
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> According to [Wiki](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_calendar#Subdivisions_of_the_month), the Japanese system was originally imported from Europe around 800 AD.

That seems very odd to me given the level of contact between Europe and Japan at that time. _Mapping Time_ says that the Roman system “had diffused” to India by the second century A.D., and a Rome \> India \> China \> Japan route makes more sense. He also suggests a complex Latin formula for the tying the hours of the day to the planets, and naming the day after whichever was ascendant in the morning, which would explain why Sun-Moon-Mars-Mercury-Jove-Venus-Saturn occurs in that order and not Sun-Mercury-Venus-Mars-Moon-Jove-Saturn.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/days-of-the-week-on-other-cultures/520147/34 "2009-12-06T17:27:36Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Basque would like to throw a monkey wrench in your works.

Basque seems to like doing that in general.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/days-of-the-week-on-other-cultures/520147/35 "2009-12-06T17:44:21Z")

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Which is why it rules.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/days-of-the-week-on-other-cultures/520147/36 "2009-12-06T18:17:20Z")

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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> … which would explain why Sun-Moon-Mars-Mercury-Jove-Venus-Saturn occurs in that order and not Sun-Mercury-Venus-Mars-Moon-Jove-Saturn.

Except that latter order makes no sense unless you are aware of the order of the planets in a heliocentric system, knowledge that wasn’t available when the days of the week were set.

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