# DC Court of Appeals rules against Trump Immunity, SCOTUS Makes a Different Decision **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [February 6, 2024, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-court-of-appeals-rules-against-trump-immunity-scotus-makes-a-different-decision/997188 "2024-02-06T15:22:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-court-of-appeals-rules-against-trump-immunity-scotus-makes-a-different-decision/997188/61 "2024-02-06T20:02:35Z")
Yes, we’ll know soon. The worst thing they could do is take it up and then delay hearing it until their next term, which would put the insurrection trial out of reach before November. But based on how fast they’ve moved in other cases (documents case, e.g.) and the thoroughness of the DC Circuit’s ruling, I think they will deny cert quickly on this one. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-court-of-appeals-rules-against-trump-immunity-scotus-makes-a-different-decision/997188/62 "2024-02-06T20:03:20Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > > [@Tatterdemalion](#): > > > > I don’t know that there is one. But Nicki Haley come closer than most, and there are polls that suggest she has a better chance than Trump in the general. > > Is a Trumpanista not named Trump better than Trump himself? I’d say yes but it could be a debate on that. - 100 yards from the landfill doesn’t smell any better than being in the landfill. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-court-of-appeals-rules-against-trump-immunity-scotus-makes-a-different-decision/997188/63 "2024-02-06T20:04:09Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > There are more moderate voices there, and they are patiently trying to explain that there is no connection or correlation between impeachment proceedings and today’s matter. In the minds of those who can’t think their way out of a paper bag, Trump has successfully conflated political actions with legal ones. It’s very unfortunate and will take a long time to undo the damage. I despise him for it. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-court-of-appeals-rules-against-trump-immunity-scotus-makes-a-different-decision/997188/64 "2024-02-06T20:07:07Z")
I believe that if the SC denies cert they don’t usually give reasons or dissent, it’s just “no”? That’s why this is a relatively palatable path for them politically if they don’t want to help Trump, nobody knows which justices agreed with the decision, and they pass the buck to the DC courts. Whereas the 14A decision we’re going to know all the details of where they all stand. ---
**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-court-of-appeals-rules-against-trump-immunity-scotus-makes-a-different-decision/997188/65 "2024-02-06T20:07:40Z")
Is Trump allowed to appeal the requirement that he file his appeal with the Supreme Court by 2/12? ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-court-of-appeals-rules-against-trump-immunity-scotus-makes-a-different-decision/997188/66 "2024-02-06T20:08:58Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > I believe that if the SC denies cert they don’t usually give reasons or dissent, it’s just “no”? > > That’s why this is an especially palatable path for them politically, nobody knows which justices agreed with the decision, and it’s all on the DC courts. Whereas the 14A decision we’re going to know all the details of where they all stand. I completely agree. And true, just “no.” ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-court-of-appeals-rules-against-trump-immunity-scotus-makes-a-different-decision/997188/67 "2024-02-06T20:12:38Z")
> [@sciurophobic](#): > > Is Trump allowed to appeal the requirement that he file his appeal with the Supreme Court by 2/12? I don’t know the answer to this – hopefully someone else does – but I say he’s welcome to try! If he asks for an extension from the DC Circuit, I can already read the one-word response: “Denied.” If he asks the SCOTUS, he’ll run out of time before they can rule. \< chortle! \> ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-court-of-appeals-rules-against-trump-immunity-scotus-makes-a-different-decision/997188/68 "2024-02-06T20:17:44Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > if their plan all along was to deny cert and stop him delaying any further, you’d expect them to deny cert fairly soon after the appeal is filed. Within a few weeks of the 2/12 appeal deadline or we can infer it’s bad news coming? I would hope they deny cert within 48 hours. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-court-of-appeals-rules-against-trump-immunity-scotus-makes-a-different-decision/997188/69 "2024-02-06T20:21:56Z")
It’s going to be nervewracking, I hope we’re not just talking ourselves into this. I don’t think it’s an exaggeration to say that the future of this country could hinge on what they do here. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-court-of-appeals-rules-against-trump-immunity-scotus-makes-a-different-decision/997188/70 "2024-02-06T20:27:59Z")
It would be really funny if they fucked up and missed the deadline to appeal ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-court-of-appeals-rules-against-trump-immunity-scotus-makes-a-different-decision/997188/71 "2024-02-06T20:33:30Z")
Even better: Trump’s lawyers send the appeal to this place: > **[Supreme Pizza & Grill - Woodbridge, VA](https://www.yelp.ca/biz/supreme-pizza-and-grill-woodbridge-3)** > > Specialties: We offer only Halal gyro and pizzas with best price in the area. We have pizzas, gyros, burgers and fries, chicken wings, cold and hot subs and more Established in 1990. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-court-of-appeals-rules-against-trump-immunity-scotus-makes-a-different-decision/997188/72 "2024-02-06T20:36:58Z")
Is their outdoor dining area called the Supreme Court? ---
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-court-of-appeals-rules-against-trump-immunity-scotus-makes-a-different-decision/997188/73 "2024-02-06T20:37:15Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > 100 yards from the landfill doesn’t smell any better than being in the landfill. If we’re going to exchange analogies, the fact that Haley is better than a sharp stick in the eye doesn’t make het good. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-court-of-appeals-rules-against-trump-immunity-scotus-makes-a-different-decision/997188/74 "2024-02-06T20:38:33Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Even better: Trump’s lawyers send the appeal to this place: Oh, is Rudy working for Trump again? On the Supreme Court denying cert: leading lights among the Most Deplorable will be working to ramp up pressure on the Justices. And by ‘pressure’ I mean death threats. The Most Deplorable will be aware of how crucial this decision is for Trump’s future. And their futures, of course, are tied to his. We may never hear the details. But I’d be willing to bet that there will be a marked uptick in threats against the Justices and their families. (‘Help Trump OR ELSE’ being the general tone.) ---
**Author:** ![mjmartin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3d9bf3/32.png) [@mjmartin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmartin)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-court-of-appeals-rules-against-trump-immunity-scotus-makes-a-different-decision/997188/75 "2024-02-06T20:40:31Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I would hope they deny cert within 48 hours. I assume they will set deadlines for Trump’s brief and a reply brief, so we are talking a few weeks at a minimum. ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-court-of-appeals-rules-against-trump-immunity-scotus-makes-a-different-decision/997188/76 "2024-02-06T20:40:41Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > It would be really funny if they fucked up and missed the deadline to appeal So I’ve thought about this. Given the standard of Trumps legal representation (and the fact its in their interests to wait til the last minute to shave off a few more days until the election) there is not completely insignificant chance of this happening. if they do is that it? Grown up rules, no backsies, no appeal for you? ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-court-of-appeals-rules-against-trump-immunity-scotus-makes-a-different-decision/997188/77 "2024-02-06T20:40:51Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > It’s going to be nervewracking, I hope we’re not just talking ourselves into this. I don’t think it’s an exaggeration to say that the future of this country could hinge on what they do here. Well, let me just complicate the apprehension by saying that I just heard court watchers far more experienced and expert than me speculate that the SCOTUS will _not_ deny cert, because they will want to be seen as putting their imprimatur on such an important landmark decision (it’s really not one, IMHO), but that they will split the baby by expediting this important landmark decision. So what do I know? 🤷‍♀️ ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-court-of-appeals-rules-against-trump-immunity-scotus-makes-a-different-decision/997188/78 "2024-02-06T20:41:52Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > If you’re a dictator, you’ve got no need of a SCOTUS. Ergo, they are not eager to see him reelected. I just want to amplify this really salient point. If you’re the Supreme Court of the United States, you’ve watched his behavior, and you understand the broad outlines of Project 2025, then you undoubtedly realize that you hold the fate of the Constitutional Republic In Your Hands. Trump is effectively aiming to attempt another self-coup. There were significant lessons learned from January 6th and the “alternate slate of electors” scheme. He needs henchman, reminiscent of the Mafia – not people loyal to the Rule of Law and the Constitution – staffing every position in his government. If Trump takes office again, one thing he really doesn’t need … is a Supreme Court – particularly one that doesn’t wholly comprise his errand boys (yes, probably boys) from the Federalist Society farm team. I’m putting my money on them denying cert. But not _much_ money 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-court-of-appeals-rules-against-trump-immunity-scotus-makes-a-different-decision/997188/79 "2024-02-06T20:44:14Z")
Hmm. If that’s their perspective, why not grant the motion to expedite in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-court-of-appeals-rules-against-trump-immunity-scotus-makes-a-different-decision/997188/80 "2024-02-06T20:44:48Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > I’m putting my money on them denying cert. They _should_ deny cert and it might cut down on the death threats a bit more than actively taking up the case just to say, “Yeah, what the DC Circuit said!” But little makes sense to me about this Supreme Court except that they wish to preserve their own power and they’ve got a (Federalist Society) long-range plan. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-court-of-appeals-rules-against-trump-immunity-scotus-makes-a-different-decision/997188.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-court-of-appeals-rules-against-trump-immunity-scotus-makes-a-different-decision/997188.md?page=5)