But when I mentioned this before, I also included a fenced in area where Biden’s grandkids can go watch the dancing bear-like Trump when they visit Grandpa at Camp David. Harder to do that in Area 51.
Plus, if he’s living at Area 51, you just know that Qanon and the like would spin the narrative that the Area 51 aliens have declared him Emperor of the Solar System, and he’s secretly running everything from an underground alien bunker.
I know a great place in southern Colorado. Wide open expanse around it, attentive servants guards, and a great view of the Western Plains sky. It’s safe enough for Terry Nichols and Eric Rudolph, can’t imagine it wouldn’t be safe for Trump.
Not worried about his safety. Nevada has lots of open space for bombing ranges. Test to see just how close they can drop a dummy bomb.
But we don’t want him.
The numbers simply don’t support this. Maybe 30% will hear that, and be unwavering in their support of Trump no matter what . The other 20% are not so unwavering and probably wouldn’t support Trump if he’s convicted of felony.
That was inevitable, though that’s even more dubious than claiming immunity while he was president. But it’s another reason for Judge Cannon to delay the trial. At this point it’s very likely she’ll let him delay it until after the election. Still if he doesn’t get elected this year (which is the likely, though far from certain outcome IMO) that will be a most amusing diversion next year. That’s an open and shut case with serious prison time at the end of it for Trump.
It would be kind of funny if he ‘escaped’ to Russia and they tried to hold him for some sort of ransom.
“Donald who? Don’t know him”
“The Ransom of Red Chief” is a short story by O. Henry first published in the July 6, 1907, issue of The Saturday Evening Post. It follows two men who kidnap and demand a ransom for a wealthy Alabamian’s son. Eventually, the men are driven crazy by the boy’s spoiled and hyperactive behavior, and they pay the boy’s father to take him back.
The documents case concerns crimes committed after he left office. Is he claiming immunity for anything he does for the rest of his life?
Maybe he figures since he was the real winner in 2020 then he took the documents while still in office and therefore could not be prosecuted. More likely, he figures he’s immune to everything forever because up to this point in his life, he has never had to admit error or face the slightest consequence for any action.
I’d imagine he could be securely housed at any number of military bases.
But I’m not the least concerned that he be incarcerated. The main - essentially SOLE - thing is that he NOT get a second term. Second concern is that he has SOME sort of verdict against him to dissuade similar actors in the future. But if he is relegated to house arrest at MAL w/ limited internet access, limited visitation, and no access to the press, that would be fine with me.
I look forward optimistically to 2025 when not president Trump faces his trials, and the only hurry is to get it done before he dies.
(Which, bobot, do you prefer: Trump is convicted, or Trump dies?
bobot: They both sound awesome.)
All good but it’s still a travesty of justice. Anyone else facing those charges would be staring at a long stay in a federal prison within the year, he is on tape commiting the crime FFS. The only reason it’s going to be delayed past the election (which will mean being delayed permanently if he wins) is because he appointed the judge hearing the case.
Joking aside, can a judge (or dept of corrections) decide to send a convicted felon to serve out their sentence at some random location that’s not a prison?
Moderating:
Ok. I think we’ve wandered off topic for long enough.
Further discussion re Trump’s prospective housing options post-trial and if convicted, should be held in another thread. Discussion re the Mar-A-Lago documents case has its own thread. Let’s please stay on topic regarding Trump’s immunity issues in this thread. Thanks.
I think the Trumpian logic is basically as follows:
As happy as I would be with Trump having some inevitable health consequence that will remove him from the picture, I’d personally rather see him convicted. Otherwise he dies an “innocent” man which he assuredly is not. Also, as regards the question of immunity or any of the other questions of how a President can abuse power, these would just end up getting dropped and these loopholes would remain available for the next wannabe despot who can work a crowd.
Oh, yes!! My dream is to see him in an orange “DOC” suit.
Ideally he’s both convicted, and then very quickly thereafter dead of natural causes. The MAGAts may have their martyr, but they won’t have one they can rally around since he’s gone.
I mentioned this in another thread but more a prediction than question. Anyway, here goes:
Is there some reason the USSC couldn’t agree to hear the case and then delay their ruling until after the election? If Biden wins, they rule against Trump. If Trump wins, they continue to delay until he is sworn in at which time he orders DOJ to drop the case. Wouldn’t that put an end to USSC case?
What about if he gets convicted before the election but files an appeal. That likely wouldn’t be heard until after he is sworn in. At that point he gets DOJ to not respond to the appeal and he gets a summary judgement. The case is remanded and DOJ is ordered not to pursue it. Is there some actual, legal reason this couldn’t happen? I’m not talking about what is customary or ethical. Obviously, those words don’t exist in Trumpworld.
I forgot to add pardoning himself (or trying to) if/when elected.