# DC is retconning Wonder Woman & redesigning her costume

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 30, 2010, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074 "2010-06-30T15:30:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/21 "2010-06-30T17:36:04Z")

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I like the new look. I tdoes make her look a bit more like a scrappy brawler (and while she is a tough, skilled amazon warrior with expert training heightened by years of expereince, she’s also enjoys tossing fists wildly. 😃 ) The new costume emphasizes her toughness, but it’s also a good look overall. Good colors, reasonable style, but heroic.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/22 "2010-06-30T17:40:59Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Sorry-I misunderstood you. It’s just that a lot of the time, the conversation goes like this:
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> First person- “I am outraged that A is happening!”  
> Second person- “Actually, according to the proper sources _B_ is happening, not A.”  
> Third through thirty third person- “I’m outraged about A happening, too!!”

I’m outraged at your analysis of how these outrage reactions progress!

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/23 "2010-06-30T17:41:39Z")

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Can’t say that I much like the new costume there. The gloves look kind of goofy and the short jacket is sooo out. The bustier is fine, I suppose, and the leggings would look OK if she had boots over them that are along the lines of her old boots. The boots turning into pants doesn’t really do it for me and I think there needs to be a little more color down there to bring it all together.

Wonder Woman’s costume is so iconic. I have the feeling that this won’t go over so well and at some point in the future, we’ll get back to the status quo juat like when they had Electric Super Man, the Spidey Clone, or that other Bat Man.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/24 "2010-06-30T17:49:09Z")

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> Can’t say that I much like the new costume there. The gloves look kind of goofy and the short jacket is sooo out. The bustier is fine, I suppose, and the leggings would look OK if she had boots over them that are along the lines of her old boots. The boots turning into pants doesn’t really do it for me and I think there needs to be a little more color down there to bring it all together.
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> Wonder Woman’s costume is so iconic. I have the feeling that this won’t go over so well and at some point in the future, we’ll get back to the status quo juat like when they had Electric Super Man, the Spidey Clone, or that other Bat Man.

_sigh_  
Did you happen to catch post #9?

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/25 "2010-06-30T18:08:39Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> _sigh_  
> Did you happen to catch post #9?

Yes I did, but I totally missed the part in the link that she’ll have pockets now.

Thank God, now she’ll have a place to keep her lipstick, Icebreakers, and subway pass.

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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/26 "2010-06-30T18:10:24Z")

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I’m outraged that they would permanently change her in this manner. What are they thinking?

If she’s going to have sleeves and leggings, the bustier ends up being rather gratuitous, does it not?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/27 "2010-06-30T18:10:58Z")

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> Yes I did, but I totally missed the part in the link that she’ll have pockets now.
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> Thank God, now she’ll have a place to keep her lipstick, Icebreakers, and subway pass.

And what about the part where her change is temporary?

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/28 "2010-06-30T18:14:49Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> And what about the part where her change is temporary?

What? Where?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/29 "2010-06-30T18:19:06Z")

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> What? Where?

According to the article

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> “It’s now nearly twenty years later. Diana has been raised in an urban setting, but with a foot in both worlds. She has little or no memory of the other timeline. She knows only what she’s been told by those who raised her On the run, hunted, she must try to survive, help the other refugee Amazons escape the army that is still after them, discover who destroyed Paradise Island and why … and if the timeline can be corrected or not,” Straczynski wrote in DC’s official materials.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/30 "2010-06-30T18:39:03Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> According to the article

> [@](#):
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> “It’s now nearly twenty years later. Diana has been raised in an urban setting, but with a foot in both worlds. She has little or no memory of the other timeline. She knows only what she’s been told by those who raised her On the run, hunted, she must try to survive, help the other refugee Amazons escape the army that is still after them, discover who destroyed Paradise Island and why … and if the timeline can be corrected or not,” Straczynski wrote in DC’s official materials.

Where does it say that the change is temporary? JMS says that WW will try to correct the timeline.

I’m sure Wonder Woman’s storyline will return to something similar to what it was before, but they’re not explicitly saying that it is though.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/31 "2010-06-30T18:41:38Z")

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I just find it sad that there’s no way she’ll ever go back to her old look. No chance at all. Sad.

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/32 "2010-06-30T18:46:31Z")

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So the is the fix happening or is it the ‘maybe’ that Straczyski uses in his quote?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/33 "2010-06-30T18:47:54Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> I just find it sad that there’s no way she’ll ever go back to her old look. No chance at all. Sad.

Wooshy wooshy.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/34 "2010-06-30T18:50:21Z")

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Will she still get tied up a lot?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/35 "2010-06-30T18:52:35Z")

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This change is _permanent_, with no hope of ever going back, ever-ever?

Darn.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/36 "2010-06-30T18:56:03Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> This change is _permanent_, with no hope of ever going back, ever-ever?

It is, I swear on Superman’s grave.

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**Author:** ![Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maggie_the_Ocelot)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/37 "2010-06-30T19:08:46Z")

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I like it. MUCH more practical.

And I trust JMS to write it well. In the hands of a lesser writer, I’d be concerned - but this is the fellow who created Susan Ivonova. Diana will be just fine.

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/38 "2010-06-30T19:09:36Z")

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> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#):
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> It is, I swear on Superman’s grave.

Great Bucky’s Ghost!

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/39 "2010-06-30T19:21:49Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> And what about the part where her change is temporary?

It sounds to me like they’re leaving their options open, though, presumably to make a decision once they see whether the new look is popular or not.

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/40 "2010-06-30T19:45:58Z")

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> [@astro](#):
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> She’'s had “makeovers” before, but this is kind of “meg”. Costume looks like a generic mis-mash and doesn’t really “pop”.

So, was “meg” supposed to be “meh” or is meg a new way of saying ugly, as in Meg from Family Guy?

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