# DC is retconning Wonder Woman & redesigning her costume

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**Created:** [June 30, 2010, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074 "2010-06-30T15:30:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/41 "2010-06-30T20:00:10Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> So, was “meg” supposed to be “meh” or is meg a new way of saying ugly, as in Meg from Family Guy?

“meh”

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/42 "2010-06-30T21:04:41Z")

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Wait, didn’t Mephisto change the world so that Peter Parker wasn’t married to Mary Jane? Isn’t that an awful lot like the gods changing reality? But that isn’t possible. DC would never imitate any plot device that Marvel used. So none of this is really happening. It’s all a dream. When Czarcasm wakes up, he’ll find that it isn’t truly permanent.

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> “she will come face to face with a decision that will mean life or death for the entire human race.”

Gee, I wonder which way she’ll choose. And if it will be temporary.  
P.S. It’s a makeover. And a retcom. And a way to make a Wonder Woman movie. And a dessert topping and a floorwax.

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**Author:** ![dzeiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@dzeiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dzeiger)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/43 "2010-06-30T21:13:59Z")

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Is it just me, or does this look a lot like mid-90s Firestar?

[http://jilenterprises.com/catalog/images/Dave%20Lynch%20Firestar.jpg](http://jilenterprises.com/catalog/images/Dave%20Lynch%20Firestar.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/44 "2010-06-30T21:14:16Z")

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> [@Larry\_Mudd](#):
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> I was never clear on why an ostensibly Greek heroine went about in a costume designed by a horny American jingoist, but that outfit is pretty far removed from Wonder Woman.

In her original form Diana was sent out to help the United States because it was the best hope for women’s rights in a word of rising fascism. She has a built in affinity for the old red, white, & blue.

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**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/45 "2010-06-30T21:14:42Z")

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I want [Reverse Wonder Woman](http://media.photobucket.com/image/reverse%20wonder%20woman/7p7/negatvove.jpg).

But to me there’s only one Wonder Woman: Lynda Carter fighting Nazi’s in WW2 with help from Roy Rogers.

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**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/46 "2010-06-30T21:16:32Z")

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> In her original form Diana was sent out to help the United States because it was the best hope for women’s rights in a word of rising fascism. She has a built in affinity for the old red, white, & blue.

In some versions, Steve Trevor crash landed on her island and in his sleep told the story of the Nazi’s. That’s when they decided to send someone back with him to fight evil. Her costume is based on the US flag patch that they found on Steve’s uniform, which explains how it looks.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/47 "2010-06-30T21:21:39Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> P.S. It’s a makeover. And a retcom.

Retcom? It damn near killed 'em!

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/48 "2010-06-30T21:47:17Z")

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> [@Superhal](#):
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> I want [Reverse Wonder Woman](http://media.photobucket.com/image/reverse%20wonder%20woman/7p7/negatvove.jpg).
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> But to me there’s only one Wonder Woman: Lynda Carter fighting Nazi’s in WW2 with help from Roy Rogers.

Wasn’t she in California fighting nogoodniks there by the time she met Roy Rogers?

I do like how occasionally she would put on the Wonder Swimsuit, Wonder skateboard suit, or the cape every once in a while in that show.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/49 "2010-06-30T22:25:34Z")

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Is it wrong to find have found Carter more attractive in her bespectacled Diana Prince outfits?

As a side note, I remember seeing Carter in _Super Troopers_ in theatre (me and my buddies were the only ones there) and thinking that she looked pretty damn good. I think I actually gasped a little and said “Is that Linda Carter?”

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/50 "2010-06-30T22:57:13Z")

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Crap sandwich between two slices of crap.

She used to look like _something_. Now she just looks like a horny cougar a bad sense of style.

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**Author:** ![WotNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e19b73/32.png) [@WotNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WotNot)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/51 "2010-06-30T23:01:56Z")

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> [@dzeiger](#):
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> Is it just me, or does this look a lot like mid-90s Firestar?
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> [http://jilenterprises.com/catalog/images/Dave%20Lynch%20Firestar.jpg](http://jilenterprises.com/catalog/images/Dave%20Lynch%20Firestar.jpg)

She looks like a mid-90s _everybody._ At one point almost the entire casts of The Xmen and The Avengers were wearing short jackets with the sleeves pushed up. At least Lee resisted the temptation to go the whole hog and give her a HUGE gun and an improbable number of pouches (pouches pouches pouches pouches).

On the whole, though, I don’t mind the new look (permanent or not). Wonder Woman’s usual outfit is, let’s face it, one of the more ludicrous costumes – and that’s saying something, given the competition.

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/52 "2010-06-30T23:36:11Z")

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> [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](#):
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> I like it. MUCH more practical.
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> And I trust JMS to write it well. In the hands of a lesser writer, I’d be concerned - but this is the fellow who created Susan Ivonova. Diana will be just fine.

B5 was a long time ago (and his attempts to revisit it have not been good). His recent comic work has been very hit-or-miss.

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**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/53 "2010-07-01T00:07:27Z")

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what’s next?? The Batman in Bermuda shorts, tank top and flip flops? Or maybe Superman trades in the tights and cape for a red thong? He could be the first barefoot superhero.

I rather see wonder woman retired then ruined with an unrecognizable look.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/54 "2010-07-01T00:41:36Z")

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First barefoot superhero? Even ignoring all the wild men of the jungle, Namor’s been fighting barefoot since 1939.

As to the change, I like it for what it is. The original is iconic, but \*is \*a little silly.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/55 "2010-07-01T00:49:46Z")

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> [@Aesiron](#):
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> First barefoot superhero? Even ignoring all the wild men of the jungle, Namor’s been fighting barefoot since 1939.

Well, feathered-foot.

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**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/56 "2010-07-01T00:55:20Z")

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LOL I’d forgotten about Namor. 🙂

> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Well, feathered-foot.

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**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/57 "2010-07-01T00:59:29Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> It’s for a specific year-long character building storyline, **in which the gods re-write history so that most of the Amazons are killed off sometime in the past** , and she is raised in an urban environment by ordinary humans, thus the updated clothing. She’ll discover her abilities over time, and then try to undo the “fix”.

This is why we can’t have good comic books :mad:

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**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/58 "2010-07-01T02:14:33Z")

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> [@dzeiger](#):
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> Is it just me, or does this look a lot like mid-90s Firestar?
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> [http://jilenterprises.com/catalog/images/Dave%20Lynch%20Firestar.jpg](http://jilenterprises.com/catalog/images/Dave%20Lynch%20Firestar.jpg)

Or mid-90’s Longshot. Or mid-90’s Rogue. Possibly mid-90’s Shadowcat too, but she was still a ghost in a tube when I gave up.

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**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/59 "2010-07-01T02:52:17Z")

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I kinda like it. She looks badass.

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**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dc-is-retconning-wonder-woman-redesigning-her-costume/545074/60 "2010-07-01T03:11:54Z")

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I think I like it. It just looks too modern and dated, sort of like when they started dressing Mickey Mouse in [80s Miami Vice clothes](http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/518NRKRBM8L._SS400_.jpg).

Ignoring this apparently temporary adjustment, I’d really prefer her actual costume to reflect her “Amazon” history, instead of being so American and spangly.

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