# DC's Legends of Tomorrow - Anyone Watching? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 1, 2016, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-anyone-watching/744887 "2016-02-01T22:42:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2016, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-anyone-watching/744887/41 "2016-02-26T18:30:28Z")
Best episode of _Arrow_ so far this season. ---
**Author:** ![Epimetheus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c4cdca/32.png) [@Epimetheus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epimetheus)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2016, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-anyone-watching/744887/42 "2016-02-26T21:32:07Z")
It’s typical CW dreck, meaning I’ll watch it and grow tired of it after a season or two. I did make it 5-6 seasons of Smallville, and I haven’t given up on Supernatural even after 10 or so seasons, but I don’t see this lasting long. Even putting up with Snart and Heat Wave’s terrible acting, they’ll either a.) Never defeat Savage, or b.) defeat him and the show is done - I can’t see them introducing a new bad guy, and if they did, It would probably ruin it for me anyway. With so many choices of stuff to watch, I’ve sidelined quite a few shows already, this one is close to being sidelined as it is. (I’ve not even gotten past S3E1 of the 100 and it’s arguably a better show) ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2016, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-anyone-watching/744887/43 "2016-02-26T23:37:51Z")
> [@Epimetheus](#): > > It’s typical CW dreck, meaning I’ll watch it and grow tired of it after a season or two. I did make it 5-6 seasons of Smallville, and I haven’t given up on Supernatural even after 10 or so seasons, but I don’t see this lasting long. Even putting up with Snart and Heat Wave’s terrible acting, they’ll either a.) Never defeat Savage, or b.) defeat him and the show is done - I can’t see them introducing a new bad guy, and if they did, It would probably ruin it for me anyway. > > With so many choices of stuff to watch, I’ve sidelined quite a few shows already, this one is close to being sidelined as it is. (I’ve not even gotten past S3E1 of the 100 and it’s arguably a better show) I gave up on this show 1.5 episodes in. And gave up on the 100 at the end of last season. ---
**Author:** ![BrianJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/54ee81/32.png) [@BrianJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrianJ)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-anyone-watching/744887/44 "2016-05-09T00:00:33Z")
Anyone else still watching this? Every chance to end Savage, they avoid it somehow. The latest? Carter is brainwashed. Killing Savage would keep Carter brainwashed. He gets out of his brainwashing, but do they end Savage? No, they hand him over to the time masters, who promptly release him and send him back, capture the entire team, and put them in prison. This isn’t the end of the season either, they still have a couple shows at least to escape and find new and exciting ways of not killing Savage. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-anyone-watching/744887/45 "2016-05-09T00:44:20Z")
> [@BrianJ](#): > > Anyone else still watching this? > > Every chance to end Savage, they avoid it somehow. The latest? Carter is brainwashed. Killing Savage would keep Carter brainwashed. He gets out of his brainwashing, but do they end Savage? No, they hand him over to the time masters, who promptly release him and send him back, capture the entire team, and put them in prison. > > This isn’t the end of the season either, they still have a couple shows at least to escape and find new and exciting ways of not killing Savage. Iwe’re still watching - 3/4 days after it airs, when we’re finally out of everything else to watch. I want it to find some good legs - but liek any show thats based on a single goal (fugitive, gilligan, etc) as soon as that goal is achieved, the show ends - so you know it can never be achieved - you just kinda hope they can have fun with it. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-anyone-watching/744887/46 "2016-05-09T01:24:25Z")
Show desperately needs Constantine. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-anyone-watching/744887/47 "2016-05-09T01:41:22Z")
By the way, it is renewed and Constantine has been widely rumored. They must confirm that he joins their group. He’s more powerful than most of them, but it would be hugely awesome for the show. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-anyone-watching/744887/48 "2016-05-09T01:41:51Z")
> [@simster](#): > > Iwe’re still watching - 3/4 days after it airs, when we’re finally out of everything else to watch. > > I want it to find some good legs - but liek any show thats based on a single goal (fugitive, gilligan, etc) as soon as that goal is achieved, the show ends - so you know it can never be achieved - you just kinda hope they can have fun with it. It’s like The Super Friends. Every episode the evil villain’s plan will get foiled. And the member’s of Legion of Doom will always manage to escape. It’s all good fun. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-anyone-watching/744887/49 "2016-05-09T01:53:12Z")
Yeah, Savage has been disappointing as well. The actor has not been terrifying enough for me. The guy who played Leoben on Battlestar should have been Savage. He was in one episode and was better by a mile. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-anyone-watching/744887/50 "2016-05-09T01:57:28Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Yeah, Savage has been disappointing as well. The actor has not been terrifying enough for me. > > The guy who played Leoben on Battlestar should have been Savage. He was in one episode and was better by a mile. Plus, y’know, Jeffrey Dean Morgan is busy. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-anyone-watching/744887/51 "2016-05-09T03:12:46Z")
My guess is… Savage is the one who founded/made possible the Time Masters, which is why they’re protecting him and his time line. Thus, Rip Hunter becomes instrumental in creating the circumstances that lead to the Time Masters being created, and it’s why the universe seems so determined to kill his family. But once that gets resolved it leaves “what do we do in season 2?” up in the air. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-anyone-watching/744887/52 "2016-05-09T03:34:32Z")
I’m pretty much watching it to see how badly the so-called Legends (and especially Ray Palmer) will frak up each week. And last episode’s multiple frak ups were a doozy. From not killing Vandal Savage in the first place, to challenging him to a fist fight, to letting him get out, to again (!) not killing him when they had another chance to do so. There are enough awesome moments that keep me coming back. Jonah Hex. Giant-size A.T.O.M. fighting a giant robot. Captain Cold freezing his own hand off to get out of a pair of handcuffs, cementing him as the most badass character in the entire Flarrowverse. Embittered, one-armed Green Arrow fighting in the ruins of future Star City; I like to think that, while unseen and mostly unmentioned in that episode, Felicity Smoak became the evil overlord of said city. I hear Patrick J. Adams has been cast for the season finale as a “fun character the fans will love”. I’m going to guess that he will be Booster Gold ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-anyone-watching/744887/53 "2016-05-09T03:41:53Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > My guess is… > > Savage is the one who founded/made possible the Time Masters, which is why they’re protecting him and his time line. Thus, Rip Hunter becomes instrumental in creating the circumstances that lead to the Time Masters being created, and it’s why the universe seems so determined to kill his family. > > But once that gets resolved it leaves “what do we do in season 2?” up in the air. Thats my sense for the spoiler as well. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-anyone-watching/744887/54 "2016-05-09T15:17:40Z")
Finally gave up on it this week as the Waverider broke yet again as Rip yet again was an idiot, and deleted it from my DVR queue. I like Snart and Mr Rory, but the rest are just blah. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-anyone-watching/744887/55 "2016-05-09T18:56:14Z")
Doctor Who can get away with the occasional “timey whimy” hand wave but they’re careful not to abuse it. This show just craps all over it. There is no reason I should care what Hunter says about anything. Every single time he warns the group about temporal consequences they immediately do exactly what was supposed to be disastrous, and nothing happens. Each episode has one or two clever lines of dialogue but it’s really not a very good show. Arrow kinda stunk its first season but it got better, and Legends shows a spark of potential here and there and it’s pretty fixable. My favorite characters are probably Carter and Mick. Carter because he’s about the only one who doesn’t say and do stupid things all the time, and Mick because he’s a big dumb lovable bad guy like Jane in Firefly. He gets a lot of the funny lines. Snart’s not bad, either. ---
**Author:** ![Sweetums](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Sweetums](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sweetums)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-anyone-watching/744887/56 "2016-05-09T21:59:32Z")
This show has some fun characters, I even find myself liking Rip on occasion. I don’t however, like it when the writers decide that someone is going to carry the idiot ball just so Savage can stick around. That is the problem with having only one goal and that one goal being stop one villain. Pretty soon your heros look completely incompetent. Kind of like how Hogman and Hoggirl have re-incarnated for thousands of years, just so the same guy could kick their butts each time. Even Ralphie from "a Christmas Story"eventually was able to beat his bully. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-anyone-watching/744887/57 "2016-05-09T22:13:34Z")
> [@Sweetums](#): > > This show has some fun characters, I even find myself liking Rip on occasion. I don’t however, like it when the writers decide that someone is going to carry the idiot ball just so Savage can stick around. That is the problem with having only one goal and that one goal being stop one villain. Pretty soon your heros look completely incompetent. Right. I love superteams and so far this has been the best life action TV superteam. But since they KNOW they have to kill Savage, and their goal \*always \*was to kill Savage, not doing so was just stupid. ---
**Author:** ![BrianJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/54ee81/32.png) [@BrianJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrianJ)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-anyone-watching/744887/58 "2016-05-13T00:56:05Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Right. I love superteams and so far this has been the best life action TV superteam. But since they KNOW they have to kill Savage, and their goal \*always \*was to kill Savage, not doing so was just stupid. Yeah I get the ‘one goal’ thing others have mentioned, but you’d think they could come up with a new goal that will be more challenging, like maybe fighting the time masters since they are plainly evil. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2016, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-anyone-watching/744887/59 "2016-05-14T02:11:14Z")
Here I was hoping I’d heard the last of Wentworth Miller’s voice inflection (it was really getting on my nerves, much more so than Dominic Purcell’s), and I see he’s signed to continue as a guest star across all the shows. Maybe Snart will have time after buying it at the Restaurant at the End of the Universe to take diction? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2016, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-anyone-watching/744887/60 "2016-05-14T06:05:45Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > Here I was hoping I’d heard the last of Wentworth Miller’s voice inflection (it was really getting on my nerves, much more so than Dominic Purcell’s), and I see he’s signed to continue as a guest star across all the shows. Maybe Snart will have time after buying it at the Restaurant at the End of the Universe to take diction? I love his sarcastic voice. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-anyone-watching/744887.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-anyone-watching/744887.md?page=4)