# De-cannonize a plot point **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 24, 2002, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/de-cannonize-a-plot-point/105320 "2002-04-24T10:52:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/de-cannonize-a-plot-point/105320/21 "2002-04-24T16:53:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Kirkland1244 \* > \*\*I would de-canonized every last frame of Voyager. \*\* Hey, there were a few good episodes, like “Ship in a Bottle”, and…“Ship in a Bottle”! [sub]And the Q ones, Year of Hell, Barclay/Troi episodes, and that one where Harry died, but only until just before he came back[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![MachV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@MachV](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MachV)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/de-cannonize-a-plot-point/105320/22 "2002-04-24T21:48:10Z")
Peter Parker would never have gotten married. ---
**Author:** ![RaCha\_ar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c2a13f/32.png) [@RaCha\_ar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaCha_ar)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/de-cannonize-a-plot-point/105320/23 "2002-04-24T22:19:40Z")
Wolverine’s origin STAYS HIDDEN. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![widdershins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f0a364/32.png) [@widdershins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/widdershins)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/de-cannonize-a-plot-point/105320/24 "2002-04-24T22:59:57Z")
I agree about Jean Grey staying dead. It cheapened every bit of sorrow or guilt the other X-Men ever felt when she came back. Also, when Doug Ramsey was revealed to be a mutant. After that Marvel decided that anybody who was good at card tricks or had any skill whatsoever was a mutant. The Beyonder and his damn Secret Wars never happens. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/de-cannonize-a-plot-point/105320/25 "2002-04-24T23:05:02Z")
Willow becoming “addicted” to magic. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/de-cannonize-a-plot-point/105320/26 "2002-04-24T23:06:49Z")
That, or Boba Fett falling into the Sarlacc Pit ---
**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/de-cannonize-a-plot-point/105320/27 "2002-04-24T23:28:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Miller \* > \*\*That, or Boba Fett falling into the Sarlacc Pit \*\* I think you could find legions to follow you if that’s your cause. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/de-cannonize-a-plot-point/105320/28 "2002-04-24T23:45:31Z")
So many posts and no one has mentioned the obvious one, yet: **Jar-Jar Binks** ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/de-cannonize-a-plot-point/105320/29 "2002-04-24T23:56:30Z")
> [@](#): > > Jar-Jar Binks Who? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![TheeGrumpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@TheeGrumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheeGrumpy)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2002, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/de-cannonize-a-plot-point/105320/30 "2002-04-25T00:46:23Z")
**Kirkland1244:** _I would de-canonized every last frame of Voyager._ \*\*Tars Tarkas: \*\*_Hey, there were a few good episodes, like “Ship in a Bottle”, and…“Ship in a Bottle”!_ Of course you mean “Message in a Bottle.” “Ship in a Bottle” was also a fine show, but it was TNG. I had trouble coming up with my own suggestion, apparently because it’s easy enough to simply blank from one’s memory the travesties inflicted on cherished sagas. Then I remembered one, and yes, it’s a Trek one… Sisko’s Mom is a Wormhole Alien? Not in my universe, she ain’t! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2002, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/de-cannonize-a-plot-point/105320/31 "2002-04-25T01:05:38Z")
Why do you have a problem with Sisko’s Mama? ---
**Author:** ![rjk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ed655f/32.png) [@rjk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjk)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2002, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/de-cannonize-a-plot-point/105320/32 "2002-04-25T02:41:26Z")
Tasha Yar and Worf would have made a great couple … ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2002, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/de-cannonize-a-plot-point/105320/33 "2002-04-25T02:45:10Z")
The Doctor Who TV movie. All of it. It never existed. ---
**Author:** ![Darwins\_Finch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darwins_finch/32/20304_2.png) [@Darwins\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwins_Finch)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2002, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/de-cannonize-a-plot-point/105320/34 "2002-04-25T03:14:05Z")
Speaking of which: “Zeist”. ---
**Author:** ![HubZilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ccd318/32.png) [@HubZilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HubZilla)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2002, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/de-cannonize-a-plot-point/105320/35 "2002-04-25T03:45:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by elf6c \* > \*\*Leia has Luke’s sister-- it makes little sense and screw’s up many earlier plot points to boot. \*\* Solved Lucas’ love triangle quite nicely though. Oh, wait, it was GL’s plan all along… ---
**Author:** ![Weird\_AL\_Einstein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c67d28/32.png) [@Weird\_AL\_Einstein](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weird_AL_Einstein)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2002, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/de-cannonize-a-plot-point/105320/36 "2002-04-25T04:21:11Z")
Everything that’s happened in the Star Trek universe since TNG went off the air. That includes the last three films, all of Voyager, all of Enterprise, and all of DS9 except for the first two seasons. The Phantom Menace. All of it. Everything that’s happened on Buffy since the episode “Tabula Rasa”. ---
**Author:** ![Kirkland1244](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@Kirkland1244](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kirkland1244)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2002, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/de-cannonize-a-plot-point/105320/37 "2002-04-25T04:33:19Z")
DS9’s first two seasons were horrid compared to the last three. And given the way the Voyager writers ruined Q, wrecked the Borg and mucked up every single rule of time travel, I’d like to take them out of continiuty. Not just the show, but the vile writers as well. Create a new pit of Hell for Brannon Braga. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2002, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/de-cannonize-a-plot-point/105320/38 "2002-04-25T05:43:41Z")
Oz leaving. or Buffy being unable to love/accept Spike or Giles leaving or Johnathan Frakes being cast ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2002, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/de-cannonize-a-plot-point/105320/39 "2002-04-25T06:05:46Z")
There are two things… get rid of that damned 2-second scene in TESB where an asteroid hits the bridge of a Star Destroyer, and/or get rid of the bit in ROTJ where an A-wing crashing into the _Executor_ disables it. Why? I don’t think those are bad scenes, mind you… just that they’ve brought up WAY too many questions and points of contention among the fanboy universe. ---
**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2002, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/de-cannonize-a-plot-point/105320/40 "2002-04-25T06:49:30Z")
Hey SPOOFE, want to come back in, make that 1st sentence sound a little nicer and waste your 8000th post here? No? Oh well congratulations when you reach it. BTW good choice. And in my OP I meant to say “I connected with him.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/de-cannonize-a-plot-point/105320.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/de-cannonize-a-plot-point/105320.md?page=3)