# Dead Languages Society: Aeneid VIII **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 8, 2001, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dead-languages-society-aeneid-viii/49041 "2001-01-08T19:30:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Humble\_Servant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/47e85d/32.png) [@Humble\_Servant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Humble_Servant)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2001, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dead-languages-society-aeneid-viii/49041/21 "2001-05-01T18:52:30Z")
**bump** Is anyone interested in doing any additional reading? I had a very good time with this thread. Thank you, **Maeglin** , for starting it. I found that the message board format worked great from a timing perspective–I haven’t been able to belong to a real life reading group for a while because of my schedule, but I still like to discuss what I read. If the Aeneid is too much, we could read additional chapters or, as suggested in the Latin thread, we could read Seneca or Cicero (shorter speeches or single chapters allow reading the whole thing and posting about an entire piece). Actually, I will read anything. Please? ---
**Author:** ![Orual](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orual](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orual)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2001, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dead-languages-society-aeneid-viii/49041/22 "2001-05-01T20:34:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Humble Servant \* > **Let’s talk about gods. Some of them in my translation are given Roman names (Juno) while some of them keep their Greek names (Jove).** [nitpick] Jove is not the Greek name. Zeus is the Greek name. Jove is derived from the non-nominative forms of Jupiter (it declines Iuppiter, Iovis, Iovi, Iovem, Iove).[/nitpick] Sorry to interrupt your Vergil conversation. I’d join in, but I haven’t read_The Aeneid_ lately. ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2001, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dead-languages-society-aeneid-viii/49041/23 "2001-05-01T20:50:46Z")
You know I’m game, **Humble Servant**. Suggest away. **Arisu** , we actually had a thread on this awhile back. I would dig it up, but the boards are too slow. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2001, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dead-languages-society-aeneid-viii/49041/24 "2001-05-02T00:10:15Z")
I ran across my copy of _The Aeneid_ JUST LAST NIGHT! I thought, “Hey! I should ne reading this!” Then I got caught up in a Tom Swift book… I have an attention span of Homeric proportions. Unfortunately, it’s Homer Simpson. ---
**Author:** ![Humble\_Servant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/47e85d/32.png) [@Humble\_Servant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Humble_Servant)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2001, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dead-languages-society-aeneid-viii/49041/25 "2001-05-02T03:17:20Z")
Yep, **arisu** , I messed that up. This is exactly why you need to read with us. We’re choosing a new reading, so you can join in. You’re in, right **drop**? ::trying to imagine Homer Simpson trying to speak Latin:: Any of the people participating in the Latin thread would of course be welcome to practice translating and understanding the text we read (assuming we choose a Latin reading for now). I will make 2 suggestions. First, Book I of the _Aeneid_. If people like it, we could continue with additional books, or leave off and switch. Second, how about [Cicero’s oration against the Manilian Law](http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0019&query=head%3D%237)? This seems to be a fairly well-known speech and is available in Perseus; since I’ve never read it, maybe someone who has can tell me if this is a pedestrian or worthwhile choice. (It looks like it is one of the Catiline orations which I know are well known, but I can’t quite tell.) Maybe the 2 threads could sponsor a joint toga party or something to entice recruits–er, encourage participation. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2001, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dead-languages-society-aeneid-viii/49041/26 "2001-05-02T03:25:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Humble Servant \* > **You’re in, right drop?** Lemme see what’s on the reading list for tonight: 400k ascii file of acoustics terms (other boss has chimed in on me “designing the theater” in this house, as if it weren’t already designed and I just have to make it sound not as bad as it could without ever being within a thousand miles of it AND as if I knew what I was doing), Aeneid I - VII so I can understand who is doing what in VIII, the SDMB, and I can hear the siren call of Tom Swift and his fabulous whatever the hell it is. In other words, yeah, probably. As for I-VII, at least the books are short. And in English. ---
**Author:** ![Humble\_Servant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/47e85d/32.png) [@Humble\_Servant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Humble_Servant)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2001, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dead-languages-society-aeneid-viii/49041/27 "2001-05-02T03:31:41Z")
The Cicero’s in English too–I’m not the masochist, you are;). By brain is too filled with _stuff_ to try to learn Latin at my age. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2001, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dead-languages-society-aeneid-viii/49041/28 "2001-05-02T03:41:09Z")
Hey, my brothers are all lawyers and THEY studied Latin because they thought it would help them. I guess that doesn’t hold anymore. 😉 And just how old ARE you that your head is so clogged? ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2001, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dead-languages-society-aeneid-viii/49041/29 "2001-05-02T13:31:01Z")
I have a Latin text of the _Aeneid_ at home, so I’d prefer that one. This discussion’s yours, **HumbleServant**. Hopefully you can do a better job with it than I did. MR ---
**Author:** ![Humble\_Servant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/47e85d/32.png) [@Humble\_Servant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Humble_Servant)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2001, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dead-languages-society-aeneid-viii/49041/30 "2001-05-02T14:33:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by dropzone \* > \*\*Hey, my brothers are all lawyers and THEY studied Latin because they thought it would help them. I guess that doesn’t hold anymore. 😉 > > And just how old ARE you that your head is so clogged? \*\* uh, XXXIX (or you can just say ancient of days). All the legal Latin got mucked up with Law French along the way, but it is easy enough to pick up the phrases you need: a bona fide mea culpa being my personal favorite. I think Book I of the Aeneid is good–anyone who participated last time (or never got around to it) will have the book, and it’s great. How about I start a new thread tomorrow? I will link to the Perseus and the Latin thread– **Maeglin** , do you want a link to your website–might not even need to be updated? BTW, I thought your discussion was truly excellent–intelligent, forgiving and encouraging. There’s no explaining why sometimes things catch on and sometimes they don’t. The Fathom reading circles kinda petered out too, and the other sdmb book club never did a second book. Not to worry–if sheer bloodimindedness can propel a discussion, this one will go because that is one thing I can provide. ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2001, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dead-languages-society-aeneid-viii/49041/31 "2001-05-03T13:41:30Z")
I am a big fan of sheer bloodimindedness. I am going to be away from tonight until Monday, so I won’t be able to check the thread. I would be happy to link it to the site. Since we are sticking with the same author, the updates should be minimal. MR [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dead-languages-society-aeneid-viii/49041.md?page=1)