# Dead People Aren't Magical, And There Aren't Any Signs!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dead-people-arent-magical-and-there-arent-any-signs/611905>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 5, 2012, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dead-people-arent-magical-and-there-arent-any-signs/611905 "2012-02-05T22:29:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dead-people-arent-magical-and-there-arent-any-signs/611905/61 "2012-02-09T06:45:42Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> That is a great point.
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> “Um, so Heaven is so boring they have nothing better to do than watch us?”

Especially in the shower.

That’s what Rufus says.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dead-people-arent-magical-and-there-arent-any-signs/611905/62 "2012-02-09T14:51:27Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> I think you’re missing the point. She wasn’t creeped out that her mother was spying on her, she was comforted by the idea that her mother was still watching out for her.

I know… and if SHE were posting here, I hope I’d be more sensitive.

But it does show some dubious theology, and I think these Ghost-Believers SHOULD be creeped out by the concept.

BTW, I’m comforted by the fact that I can ride my winged unicorn whenever I want to (well, if it’s above freezing and the wind’s under 20 mph… she’s kind of picky). Just because it’s comforting doesn’t make it true, or psychologically healthy.

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**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dead-people-arent-magical-and-there-arent-any-signs/611905/63 "2012-02-09T14:58:00Z")

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Just to comment about them watching us masterbate and the like. To them it’s adorable like a infant child playing and making themselves happy. Sex and using our body is not dirty to them (and shouldn’t be to us). Any shame on that subject is our hangup.

As open to viewing and handeling as a infant is us to them. But not the dead ones, just the ones given eternal life. The dead ones just rot in the ground till they decide they want eternal life instead.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dead-people-arent-magical-and-there-arent-any-signs/611905/64 "2012-02-09T15:30:34Z")

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> [@kanicbird](#):
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> Just to comment about them watching us masterbate and the like. To them it’s adorable like a infant child playing and making themselves happy. Sex and using our body is not dirty to them (and shouldn’t be to us). Any shame on that subject is our hangup.
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> As open to viewing and handeling as a infant is us to them. But not the dead ones, just the ones given eternal life. The dead ones just rot in the ground till they decide they want eternal life instead.

And how the hell would you know all this?

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dead-people-arent-magical-and-there-arent-any-signs/611905/65 "2012-02-09T18:40:00Z")

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“Oh look, my morbidly obese middle-aged grandson is jacking it to ‘Anal Teen Whores Part 6’ and blowing his filthy load into a crusty yellowing gym sock. ADORABLE!!!”

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dead-people-arent-magical-and-there-arent-any-signs/611905/66 "2012-02-09T18:45:59Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> And how the hell would you know all this?

Say this for being batshit insane: **kanicbird** always has answers.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dead-people-arent-magical-and-there-arent-any-signs/611905/67 "2012-02-09T19:26:07Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> And how the hell would you know all this?

He had a near-death experience.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dead-people-arent-magical-and-there-arent-any-signs/611905/68 "2012-02-09T19:27:29Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> He had a near-death experience.

Right channel, different show. 😃

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dead-people-arent-magical-and-there-arent-any-signs/611905/69 "2012-02-10T04:30:35Z")

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> [@](#):
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> “Oh look, my morbidly obese middle-aged grandson is jacking it to ‘Anal Teen Whores Part 6’ and blowing his filthy load into a crusty yellowing gym sock. ADORABLE!!!”

Grammie?

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dead-people-arent-magical-and-there-arent-any-signs/611905/70 "2012-02-10T14:42:19Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> Grammie?

Emmy.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dead-people-arent-magical-and-there-arent-any-signs/611905/71 "2012-02-10T14:44:20Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> “Oh look, my morbidly obese middle-aged grandson is jacking it to ‘Anal Teen Whores Part 6’ and blowing his filthy load into a crusty yellowing gym sock. ADORABLE!!!”

In fairness, 6 did answer a lot of the lingering questions from 5.

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**Author:** ![Tamex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Tamex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamex)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2012, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dead-people-arent-magical-and-there-arent-any-signs/611905/72 "2012-02-12T04:45:27Z")

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I had a co-worker once who was would find pennies on the floor of her house and was convinced that her dead grandfather was leaving them for her. Absolutely impossible that it was one of her three small children or her pets (which I think can explain all kinds of small objects all over the floor, but…what do I know?)

If someone is prone to believing that dead relatives are watching, (and that’s something I’ve heard since childhood, so it’s a common myth in our culture) there’s nothing you can say to convince them otherwise. It is a No Logic Zone.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2012, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dead-people-arent-magical-and-there-arent-any-signs/611905/73 "2012-02-12T19:40:48Z")

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> [@kanicbird](#):
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> As open to viewing and handeling as a infant is us to them.

Bach to the future!

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> But not the dead ones, just the ones given eternal life. The dead ones just rot in the ground till they decide they want eternal life instead.

And that’s a real problem, being half rotted and _then_ getting eternal life. Makes for some nasty zombie scenes in the Celestial Kingdom.

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**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2012, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dead-people-arent-magical-and-there-arent-any-signs/611905/74 "2012-02-12T23:36:40Z")

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> [@Slithy\_Tove](#):
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> [What’s The Harm?"](http://whatstheharm.net/) a list of harmless, socially-accepted beliefs that yeilded tragic results

From the linked page:

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> Baba Jallow & 7 others  
> Age: 28  
> Serekunda, Gambia & Ghana
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> He was accused of stealing another man’s penis through sorcery, and a mob of ten people beat him to death for it. Seven other cases like this happened in Ghana in 1997.

I’m sorry, but I am not taking any chances on this. Sure, it seems unlikely and you scoff, but in the movies what happens to the guy who scoffs?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2012, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dead-people-arent-magical-and-there-arent-any-signs/611905/75 "2012-02-13T00:24:25Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> And how the hell would you know all this?

Every time you think he can’t possibly top himself, he comes up with even crazier shit.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2012, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dead-people-arent-magical-and-there-arent-any-signs/611905/76 "2012-02-13T00:57:36Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> In fairness, 6 did answer a lot of the lingering questions from 5.

Yes, it filled many a plot hole.

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**Author:** ![Kevbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e47774/32.png) [@Kevbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kevbo)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2012, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dead-people-arent-magical-and-there-arent-any-signs/611905/77 "2012-02-13T06:24:07Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> I think your pastor had a point.

He did, but the way he combed his hair it hardly showed.

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