# Deadpool and Wolverine (new trailer in OP, open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies, disney-hulu\ **Created:** [April 22, 2024, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadpool-and-wolverine-new-trailer-in-op-open-spoilers/1000625 "2024-04-22T16:47:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadpool-and-wolverine-new-trailer-in-op-open-spoilers/1000625/21 "2024-06-30T00:47:54Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Love the way Logan just calmly walks along with Wade’s katana sticking through him. New trailer. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/6c2RTx8wDEw/maxresdefault.jpg "Deadpool & Wolverine | Old Bubs") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c2RTx8wDEw) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadpool-and-wolverine-new-trailer-in-op-open-spoilers/1000625/22 "2024-07-16T23:30:07Z")
Yet another one: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/C2QCuBX_byg/maxresdefault.jpg "Deadpool & Wolverine | Everyone | In Theaters July 26") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2QCuBX_byg) ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadpool-and-wolverine-new-trailer-in-op-open-spoilers/1000625/23 "2024-07-16T23:56:38Z")
That shot where they fall on the van looks very off, like Deadpool was photoshopped in. ---
**Author:** ![carlb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carlb/32/5930_2.png) [@carlb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carlb)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadpool-and-wolverine-new-trailer-in-op-open-spoilers/1000625/24 "2024-07-17T20:07:52Z")
Seeking advice and opinions. My wife _loved_ “Deadpool,” despite not liking violence and gore in movies, and not really being into superhero stuff. I suspect it is Ryan Reynolds’s charm that does it (same reason she liked “Iron Man” but couldn’t care less about the rest of the MCU). I am sure that a number of the insider jokes/Easter eggs went right past her. She seemed to like “Deadpool 2” well enough. We’ve got tickets to see “Deadpool and Wolverine” next Friday. So - trying to figure out what might be essential watching between now and then. I’m thinking: - Deadpool (duh) - X-Men (the first) - Logan - Deadpool 2 I can’t decide whether to squeeze in “X2” somewhere along the way; it does dive into Wolverine’s backstory some more. I’m not looking to get her completely, 100% up-to-speed on the larger MCU. Just enough that she’ll get some of the plot points and jokes. Thoughts? Suggestions? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadpool-and-wolverine-new-trailer-in-op-open-spoilers/1000625/25 "2024-07-17T20:34:13Z")
There is this, FWIW: > **[‘Deadpool and Wolverine’ Doesn’t Require Prior MCU Knowledge Because ‘I’m...](https://variety.com/2024/film/news/deadpool-3-director-mcu-knowledge-not-necessary-1235983844/)** > > "Deadpool and Wolverine" director Shawn Levy does not like doing homework before movies, so he made sure his film didn't need pre-MCU knowledge. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadpool-and-wolverine-new-trailer-in-op-open-spoilers/1000625/26 "2024-07-17T21:17:20Z")
That article sounds promising. I think the Deadpool movies break the fourth wall enough (and flaunt it) that they’d call out any important context anyway. Even without having read the article above, this would be the superhero movie I’d sweat homework for the least ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadpool-and-wolverine-new-trailer-in-op-open-spoilers/1000625/27 "2024-07-17T21:42:38Z")
You might miss some fanservice-y in-jokes, but I suspect they’ll be so foot-stomped that you’ll know you missed something rather than completely missing the “whoosh”. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadpool-and-wolverine-new-trailer-in-op-open-spoilers/1000625/28 "2024-07-18T03:13:34Z")
I don’t think I’ve ever asked this before, but what is the history of the relationship between Deadpool and Wolverine. Deadpool starts his first movie with… > [@](#): > > “I know right? You’re probably thinking, ‘Whose balls did I have to fondle to get my very own movie’? I can’t tell you his name, but it rhymes with “Pulverine.”” There’s definitely some antagonism between them, and it seems like it must go back to the comics, but I don’t know any more than that. Is it ever explained, or does Deadpool just like teasing someone who is so intense and humorless? And now that I think about it, what’s the deal with Deadpool and unicorns? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadpool-and-wolverine-new-trailer-in-op-open-spoilers/1000625/29 "2024-07-18T04:21:57Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > There’s definitely some antagonism between them, and it seems like it must go back to the comics, but I don’t know any more than that. As you might expect with two long-running characters, there is a complex history. > **[The Complete History of Logan and Wade Wilson's Rivalry, From Marvel Comics...](https://nerdist.com/article/complete-history-of-wolverine-deadpool-relationship-in-marvel-comics-and-movies/)** > > Deadpool and Wolverine are one of comics' greatest frenemies, and their decades-long history will continue in the MCU with Deadpool & Wolverine. Deadpool in the comics started as a straight-up bad guy who was mildly snarky, but proved popular so the snark was cranked up to 11 and became an antihero. Who really wants to hang with the X-Men and especially Wolverine but is mostly disliked because he is an amoral mercenary who murders people for money (sometimes, when he isn’t trying to be better). The joke you mentioned is probably largely based on the fact that Wolverine (despite historical issues preventing him from appearing in the MCU) is probably the single most popular character in all of Marvel comics. If they were just going with man-crushes, they could also have gone with Spider-Man, who Deadpool also wants to be best buds with. They have a 50 issue comic together. > **[Spider-Man/Deadpool](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man/Deadpool)** > > Spider-Man/Deadpool is a 50 issue comic book series published by Marvel Comics beginning in 2016. The title characters, Spider-Man and Deadpool, shared the focus of the book. The comic was originally launched by Joe Kelly and Ed McGuinness, but many authors and artists worked on the series during its run. Spider-Man/Deadpool is an action-comedy that explores the dynamic between the two characters and their personality differences. > The comic focuses on Deadpool and Spider-Man as they team up to... ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadpool-and-wolverine-new-trailer-in-op-open-spoilers/1000625/30 "2024-07-18T05:22:59Z")
_Wolverine_? _Green Lantern_? Not sure if there’ll be more callbacks to those two previous Reynolds superhero outings, like there have been. I’d hope there’d be references to the first, at least. ---
**Author:** ![carlb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carlb/32/5930_2.png) [@carlb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carlb)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadpool-and-wolverine-new-trailer-in-op-open-spoilers/1000625/31 "2024-07-18T13:32:37Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I don’t think I’ve ever asked this before, but what is the history of the relationship between Deadpool and Wolverine. Deadpool starts his first movie with… > > > [@](#): > > > > “I know right? You’re probably thinking, ‘Whose balls did I have to fondle to get my very own movie’? I can’t tell you his name, but it rhymes with “Pulverine.”” For me, at least, there’s an added layer in that I don’t think anyone expected the cinematic Wolverine to be so popular. I seem to remember a lot of pre-release griping about Hugh Jackman not having the right physique; Wolverine wasn’t a character that the larger non-comic reading audience was familiar with; there was no guarantee X-Men would become a successful franchise. I see it as a subtle joke in the vein of, “hey, if Hugh Jackman/Wolverine can become a breakout star and you can build entire movies around him, why not me?” OTOH, maybe I’m reading waaaayyyyy too much into it. ---
**Author:** ![carlb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carlb/32/5930_2.png) [@carlb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carlb)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadpool-and-wolverine-new-trailer-in-op-open-spoilers/1000625/32 "2024-07-18T13:36:38Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > _Wolverine_? _Green Lantern_? Not sure if there’ll be more callbacks to those two previous Reynolds superhero outings, like there have been. I’d hope there’d be references to the first, at least. No way am I putting _myself_ through “Green Lantern” again, let alone my wife. I had to explain the “Green Lantern”-related jokes in the previous films, but I think she’s got the basic idea now. I don’t remember enjoying “Wolverine” all that much, either, and I think there’s enough backstory for Wolverine in “X-men” and “X2” for my wife to follow along anything referencing those (if they occur). I do think I’ll fill her in on the previous iteration of Deadpool, though. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadpool-and-wolverine-new-trailer-in-op-open-spoilers/1000625/33 "2024-07-18T15:52:39Z")
Personally, I’d rewatch/review the _Loki_ miniseries. Especially since this movie deals with the TVA, variants and all that multiverse bullstuff. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadpool-and-wolverine-new-trailer-in-op-open-spoilers/1000625/34 "2024-07-18T17:28:46Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I don’t think I’ve ever asked this before, but what is the history of the relationship between Deadpool and Wolverine. Deadpool starts his first movie with… Wolverine and Deadpool aren’t especially antagonistic towards each other in the comics. Most other heroes in the Marvel universe can’t stand Deadpool, though, so that doesn’t say much. If anything, Wolverine tends to be more sympathetic to Deadpool than most other heroes, since they’re both victims of the Weapon-X program. Wolverine is also Marvel second most popular character (second only to Spider-Man), and gets thrown into tons of crossovers. I think the line you’re asking about is mostly a meta-joke - he’s implying that Wolverine is so popular that his fictional character has enough pull to make decisions for the real-life Marvel corporation. Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman are also IRL friends, and like to give each other shit in public, so this line was probably a bit of an inside dig at his friend’s most successful roll. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadpool-and-wolverine-new-trailer-in-op-open-spoilers/1000625/35 "2024-07-19T13:17:01Z")
I started watching (but didn’t finish) X-Men Origins: Wolverine the other night. Early on, Logan and Wilson are part of the same mercenary team until Logan gets disgusted and quits. At around the point I paused the movie, it seemed like someone was bumping off members of the old team one by one, and it’s implied (maybe even stated outright) that Wilson is dead. So I need to finish watching to see how it all resolves, but that movie seems to be the beginning of the relationship between the two. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadpool-and-wolverine-new-trailer-in-op-open-spoilers/1000625/36 "2024-07-19T16:19:06Z")
That movie isn’t connected to the Deadpool movies and in fact is famously reviled for its depiction of Deadpool. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadpool-and-wolverine-new-trailer-in-op-open-spoilers/1000625/37 "2024-07-19T16:51:49Z")
Good to know! I noticed a few weeks ago that Disney+ had all the X-Men movies now, so I’m slowly making my way through all of those. I thought it might give me some Deadpool/Wolverine background, but maybe not. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadpool-and-wolverine-new-trailer-in-op-open-spoilers/1000625/38 "2024-07-19T16:56:40Z")
The final trailer just dropped. Some new scenes and dialog. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Idh8n5XuYIA/maxresdefault.jpg "Deadpool & Wolverine | Final Trailer | In Theaters July 26") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Idh8n5XuYIA) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadpool-and-wolverine-new-trailer-in-op-open-spoilers/1000625/39 "2024-07-19T16:56:56Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > I thought it might give me some Deadpool/Wolverine background, but maybe not. In that movie Deadpool has been tattooed with black lines for some reason, has no mouth (really, just a blank patch of skin), has an adamantium sword built into each arm, and has Cyclops laser eyes. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadpool-and-wolverine-new-trailer-in-op-open-spoilers/1000625/40 "2024-07-19T17:05:45Z")
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