# Deadwood: 4/10 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 11, 2005, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734 "2005-04-11T02:13:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![SlyFrog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@SlyFrog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlyFrog)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2005, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734/21 "2005-04-11T15:46:31Z")
I think that Trixie’s character is becoming a bit of a problem. I believe that the character may have been originally intended to be more minor, but has developed and branched out over the past two years. I believe that this has led to some inconsistencies in her story and character that are explained by the unintended/rapid development. In the beginning, she was basically another frightened whore with a bit more airtime being smacked around by Al; suddenly she’s a close advisor to Al and telling most of the camp to fuck off when she likes. I don’t mind it that much, but it is getting a bit inconsistent. It’s almost like the writers don’t fully know what to do with her, and have her doing something new every week. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2005, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734/22 "2005-04-11T15:55:14Z")
> [@Mr. Goob](#): > > What the hell was Maddie (that was borg-queen’s name right?) thinking when she pulled the gun on Wolcott. He just cut the throats of two girls like pigs and now she pulls this itty bitty gun and demands an open ended payment plan. That was too much too soon. I’d have thought she would be a better blackmailer than that. I don’t think she was in the best frame of mind. I think she was actually feeling pretty bad about sending those women to their deaths and on top of it all she was afraid for her own life. I think she froze because she viewed Wolcott as her meal ticket. As for the tiny gun, I don’t know about you but it would sure scare the hell out of me if someone pointed a .22 at me. A small gun can make you just as dead as a big gun. Marc ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2005, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734/23 "2005-04-11T16:19:20Z")
> [@Mr. Goob](#): > > I read somewhere about another actor who worked with Tom Fontana in the past saying he’s going to be in the last episode. There is a big Wedding to close the season. Who’s it going to be? I don’t know if this should be ‘spoilered’, since it’s in the historic record; but just to be safe, I’ll do it. Seth Bullock remained married to Martha Eccles, and Sol Star never married. Alma is a fictional character, so they can do whatever they want with her. I’m pretty sure Ellsworth is fictional as well. My guess is that the wedding will be between Alma and Ellsworth. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2005, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734/24 "2005-04-11T17:41:15Z")
> [@BobT](#): > > Miss Isringhausen is definitely a good actress. From prim, humorless governess into scheming, opportunistic woman of the world. “Come upstairs and fuck me.” My kinda woman. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![BabaBooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dfb087/32.png) [@BabaBooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BabaBooey)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2005, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734/25 "2005-04-11T18:41:44Z")
Any show in which a guy like Al is eventually seen as one of the good guys is alright by me. I hope both Irs and Walcott both stick around for a while, though I’m not too happy about his removing a significant amount of the show’s eye candy in one way or another. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2005, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734/26 "2005-04-11T19:15:33Z")
Merrick seemed quite taken with the schoolteacher. Maybe the wedding will be theirs? Alma needs to do something though, to protect herself, physically and financially. She is such a target right now. We need to see her consulting a lawyer and making a will, or marrying **somebody**. ---
**Author:** ![Survey1215](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecb155/32.png) [@Survey1215](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Survey1215)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2005, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734/27 "2005-04-11T20:37:54Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > Merrick seemed quite taken with the schoolteacher. Maybe the wedding will be theirs? If he is [his actor’s character](http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/jjonesmug1.html), he’s probably more interested in the pupils v. the teacher. :eek: Wolcott (Walcott? Walken? anyway…) is one seriously twisted dude and I think Tolliver is every bit as sadistic - and also opportunistic. Wolcott is now indebted to Tolliver who appeared to clean up Wolcott’s mess at the end of the episode. What’s more odd - having intercourse with a horse or masturbating onto one? What a weirdo. ---
**Author:** ![Survey1215](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecb155/32.png) [@Survey1215](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Survey1215)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2005, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734/28 "2005-04-11T21:08:59Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > Merrick seemed quite taken with the schoolteacher. Maybe the wedding will be theirs? If he is [his actor’s character](http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/jjonesmug1.html), he’s probably more interested in the pupils v. the teacher. :eek: Wolcott (Walcott? Walken? anyway…) is one seriously twisted dude and I think Tolliver is every bit as sadistic - and also opportunistic. Wolcott is now indebted to Tolliver who appeared to clean up Wolcott’s mess at the end of the episode. What’s more odd - having intercourse with a horse or masturbating onto one? What a weirdo. ---
**Author:** ![Random](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@Random](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Random)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2005, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734/29 "2005-04-12T05:34:06Z")
Mr. W sure is handy with that razor. 3 dead, and not a drop of blood on him. (Not that much anywhere else, either.) Do a deduct a hint of a future Joanie/Swearingen alliance? ---
**Author:** ![MLS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@MLS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MLS)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2005, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734/30 "2005-04-13T01:44:27Z")
Y’know, now that you mention it, shouldn’t there have been at least a drop or two on him? What makes you think there’s a Joanie/Al alliance brewing? Didn’t she head back to Tolliver first? ---
**Author:** ![archmichael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@archmichael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/archmichael)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2005, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734/31 "2005-04-13T02:25:46Z")
> [@MLS](#): > > What makes you think there’s a Joanie/Al alliance brewing? Didn’t she head back to Tolliver first? Tolliver is willing to cover for Wolcott in the murder of three girls. He would sell out Joanie to Wolcott if it was financially beneficial ---
**Author:** ![MLS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@MLS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MLS)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2005, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734/32 "2005-04-13T02:28:58Z")
Yeah, you’re right. Tolliver would sell his grandmother if the price was right. The first episodes last year, I thought Al was an evil s.o.b. Since we’ve met Tolliver, I’ve realized Al is a choir boy in comparison. Can’t think that Joanie has anywhere else to go. Still, I wonder why she didn’t just climb in the wagon with the rest of the “girls?” ---
**Author:** ![archmichael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@archmichael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/archmichael)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2005, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734/33 "2005-04-13T03:12:03Z")
> [@MLS](#): > > Still, I wonder why she didn’t just climb in the wagon with the rest of the “girls?” A lot of questions about that. Why didn’t she leave? Why did she have to ask the bartender for $1400, when Wolcott was dropping a lot of money? ---
**Author:** ![MLS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@MLS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MLS)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2005, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734/34 "2005-04-13T03:20:01Z")
Well, I figure the Wolcott money was in the Chez Ami (Joanie was not going back THERE), or that the Borg lady had it. When she sent for Charlie, I thought she was going to take refuge (or money) from him. But of course, given all that was happening, she might simply not have been thinking rationally. Off-camera, she obviously had at least one conversation with Charlie; perhaps he suggested some of the actions. Geez, it’s 5 days til Sunday night! ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2005, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734/35 "2005-04-13T03:31:51Z")
I thought the Joannie thing with the money was obvious. She figured that Wolcott and Cy were about to hunt down and kill her girls. So she had to act fast, without going back to the Chez Ami. So she pulled in a favor, grabbed all the money she could, gave it to her girls and got them the hell out of Dodge. And I wouldn’t be surprised at all for Joannie to seek an alliance with Al. Cy is her enemy now. And I thought the director was trying to implant that seed of an idea in that last scene where Al and Joannie exchanged a moment as she walked down the street. I think the latest developments are building to one hell of an exciting confrontation. Al needs to “muscle up”, because he sees big problems brewing. It looks like we’re going to have Al, Dan, Seth, Sol, Alma, Wu, Charlie, Jane, and Trixie on one side, and the new Celestial, Cy, Wolcott, and the cocksuckers in Yankton on the other. And Seth may be able to pull a few political strings. ---
**Author:** ![MLS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@MLS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MLS)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2005, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734/36 "2005-04-13T03:35:59Z")
Yeah, but why didn’t Joanie herself leave town as well? Other than the fact that we’d lose an interesting character and that the actress probably has a full-season contract. ---
**Author:** ![archmichael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@archmichael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/archmichael)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2005, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734/37 "2005-04-13T03:41:45Z")
> [@Sam Stone](#): > > I thought the Joannie thing with the money was obvious. :smack: I forgot that there use to be a time when banks were unsecure or just unavailable, and you had to do shit like hide money in floorboards. Your right about the confrontation part. It might come to the point were Deadwood get pretty crowded. Al muscling up. Wu possibly muscling up. Hearst sending in his troop. Pinkertons possibly descending as well. I don’t think it will happen, but I can hope. ---
**Author:** ![BabaBooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dfb087/32.png) [@BabaBooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BabaBooey)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2005, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734/38 "2005-04-13T03:45:53Z")
> [@MLS](#): > > Yeah, but why didn’t Joanie herself leave town as well? Other than the fact that we’d lose an interesting character and that the actress probably has a full-season contract. I figure she knows Cy will make sure Walcott won’t kill her, an assumption that appears accurate as Cy mentioned to Walcott that Joanie wasn’t in the Chez Amie when the killing took place. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2005, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734/39 "2005-04-13T03:47:37Z")
> [@Sam Stone](#): > > I thought the Joannie thing with the money was obvious. She figured that Wolcott and Cy were about to hunt down and kill her girls. So she had to act fast, without going back to the Chez Ami. So she pulled in a favor, grabbed all the money she could, gave it to her girls and got them the hell out of Dodge. > > And I wouldn’t be surprised at all for Joannie to seek an alliance with Al. Cy is her enemy now. And I thought the director was trying to implant that seed of an idea in that last scene where Al and Joannie exchanged a moment as she walked down the street. > > I think the latest developments are building to one hell of an exciting confrontation. Al needs to “muscle up”, because he sees big problems brewing. It looks like we’re going to have Al, Dan, Seth, Sol, Alma, Wu, Charlie, Jane, and Trixie on one side, and the new Celestial, Cy, Wolcott, and the cocksuckers in Yankton on the other. And Seth may be able to pull a few political strings. Hey, **Sam**. I was wondering if you’d show up this week. I enjoy your contributions to these _Deadwood_ threads and after an episode as intense as the last one, I was looking forward to to seeing your input. ---
**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2005, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734/40 "2005-04-13T04:03:17Z")
> [@BabaBooey](#): > > I figure she knows Cy will make sure Walcott won’t kill her, an assumption that appears accurate as Cy mentioned to Walcott that Joanie wasn’t in the Chez Amie when the killing took place. Plus, while it’s true that Cy and Al are different flavors of evil cocksuckers, Cy’s one weakness is Joannie, whether he cares to admit it or not. He otherwise wouldn’t have let her go in the first place. I disagree her life is in danger from him soley on the basis of Walcott’s actions. If there’s a protector in Deadwood against Walcott, it’s Cy, through and through-- and I’m not sure she’d throw her lot with Al unless Al decided to make the overture first. It’s only because of Maddie’s clumsy blackmailing that Joannie and the Chez Ami were even involved in this scheme to begin with, and I don’t see her leaving town and just giving up her stake in the cathouse just yet. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734.md?page=3)