# Deadwood: 4/10

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 11, 2005, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734 "2005-04-11T02:13:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Random](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@Random](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Random)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2005, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734/41 "2005-04-13T04:19:26Z")

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> [@MLS](#):
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> Y’know, now that you mention it, shouldn’t there have been at least a drop or two on him?
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> What makes you think there’s a Joanie/Al alliance brewing? Didn’t she head back to Tolliver first?

What **Sam** said - the look that they exchanged at the very end.

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**Author:** ![Random](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@Random](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Random)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2005, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734/42 "2005-04-13T04:23:11Z")

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> [@Askia](#):
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> …I don’t see her leaving town and just giving up her stake in the cathouse just yet.

Maybe, but it’s not much of a cathouse without any cats.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2005, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734/43 "2005-04-13T04:58:51Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> Hey, **Sam**. I was wondering if you’d show up this week. I enjoy your contributions to these _Deadwood_ threads and after an episode as intense as the last one, I was looking forward to to seeing your input.

I didn’t get a chance to see it Sunday, so I watched it on my PVR on Monday. Normally, I dive-bomb this thread about five minutes after the show ends…

So, you think we’re heading for some major fireworks?

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**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2005, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734/44 "2005-04-13T05:18:37Z")

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> [@Random](#):
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> Maybe, but it’s not much of a cathouse without any cats.

It could be a cathouse empty, condemned and burned to the ground, and I still dn’t think she’d give up. Presumably she’ll regroup. I’m wondering whether the Chinese whores may be available, for one. Plus, she still has title to the property, presumably-- and there’s still the matter of her backer. And she has to replace the $1,400 she borrowed.

I think these little oligarchies forming are shaping up into a nice power struggle. Sam Stone’s analysis of the principals is pretty good, although I respectfully disagree that Cy and Joannie will ever turn on each other over this matter. Also, it’ll be interesting watching Mayor E.B. bounce back and forth between his loyalties to Al and his obligations to Wolcott/Hearst. I can’t wait to see if the Widow Garret succeeds in getting the hotel. Miss Isringhausen is one to watch, too.

Hosteler and the Nigger General are an interesting pair. I wonder if they haven’t overlayed their hand with the horsefucker. Good to see Franklin Ajaye working again.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2005, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734/45 "2005-04-13T05:26:06Z")

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> [@Sam Stone](#):
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> I thought the Joannie thing with the money was obvious. She figured that Wolcott and Cy were about to hunt down and kill her girls. So she had to act fast, without going back to the Chez Ami. So she pulled in a favor, grabbed all the money she could, gave it to her girls and got them the hell out of Dodge.
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> And I wouldn’t be surprised at all for Joannie to seek an alliance with Al. Cy is her enemy now. And I thought the director was trying to implant that seed of an idea in that last scene where Al and Joannie exchanged a moment as she walked down the street.
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> I think the latest developments are building to one hell of an exciting confrontation. Al needs to “muscle up”, because he sees big problems brewing. It looks like we’re going to have Al, Dan, Seth, Sol, Alma, Wu, Charlie, Jane, and Trixie on one side, and the new Celestial, Cy, Wolcott, and the cocksuckers in Yankton on the other. And Seth may be able to pull a few political strings.

Hey, **Sam**. I was wondering if you’d show up this week. I enjoy your contributions to these _Deadwood_ threads and after an episode as intense as the last one, I was looking forward to to seeing your input.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2005, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734/46 "2005-04-13T05:31:54Z")

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I don’t know what just happened. I wrote a long post responding to **Sam** and it reposted my last post for some reason.

Anyway, the summary was that there are so many balls in the air, it’s impossible to predict what’s going to happen.

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**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2005, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734/47 "2005-04-13T05:31:57Z")

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This series is steadily growing on me; I caught most of the first season on rerun, and was only mildly interested.

But I tuned in with the new season and it just gets better every episode.

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**Author:** ![LordVor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/90ced4/32.png) [@LordVor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LordVor)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2005, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734/48 "2005-04-13T06:12:36Z")

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Just saw this weeks episode, and y’all are right about the contrast. On the one hand, we have grisley murders. On the other, we have a moment in which Mr. Wu is trying to figure out why Al cares about how many Jews the San Francisco Cocksucker has.

Am I the only one thinking that Bullock isn’t going to care for chinese slaves working as prostitutes in his town?

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**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2005, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734/49 "2005-04-13T06:42:35Z")

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Aren’t the Chinese prostitutes being brought in to service potential new Chinese miners imported to work in Deadwood by Hearst and Mr. W?

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**Author:** ![Lissa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lissa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissa)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2005, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734/50 "2005-04-13T13:17:48Z")

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> [@BobT](#):
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> Aren’t the Chinese prostitutes being brought in to service potential new Chinese miners imported to work in Deadwood by Hearst and Mr. W?

Yeah.

I don’t think Joanie could set up with Chinese whores in the Chez . . . racism would prevent Chinese girls from being as valuable as white girls. Joanie wants her place to be high-toned.

It would not be in the least bit difficult for her to get more white whores. Al could assist her with this and she could have the place open by next week.

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2005, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-4-10/298734/51 "2005-04-13T15:11:46Z")

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In next week’s previews, Joanie tells Cy that when she left the Chez Amie, all three of them were still alive, and Cy says he’s curious about what happened to the other three, and he sounds angry.

It’s hard to tell if he’s upset that Joanie acted on her own to protect the whores, or if he’s upset that Wolcott won’t have any more whores to kill, or that Joanie’s place is closed before she could pay him back all the money Eddy stole from him to set her up.

It’s not the way a guy would act if he was welcoming her back to the safety of the Bella Union, glad that she’s alive, and willing to forgive her stab at independence and get back to whatever passes as normal for Cy.

Then Cy makes that comment to Seth about “that’s not an ox you want to gore”.

Looks like Cy doesn’t want his association with Wolcott and Hearst to end just yet. Talk about shortsighted. He can’t win.

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