# Deadwood 7-9-06 (there will be spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 9, 2006, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-7-9-06-there-will-be-spoilers/363790 "2006-07-09T23:20:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-7-9-06-there-will-be-spoilers/363790/41 "2006-07-11T13:05:02Z")
Here’s something posted on the HBO boards by W. Earl Brown (Dan) about the fight. It’s really interesting. [Link](http://boards.hbo.com/thread.jspa?threadID=300001145&messageID=700126759#700126759) His username is BigEarlB. Hee. ---
**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-7-9-06-there-will-be-spoilers/363790/42 "2006-07-11T13:19:15Z")
I loved how the crowd was kind of moving around the fight, some continuing their business as if they were stepping around a horse turd. I love how Al was straining to figure his next move and looks outside to see Hearst being lead off by Bullock. There is part dread as to what may happen next and part… “why didn’t I let him do this earlier” on Al’s face. Anyone else notice how Johnny seems to be getting a little more aware of things and catching on quicker. There might be a thought in his head after all. I’d say Hearst was not fooled by Adams’ at all. I’m still fricken squemish about the eye bouncing around. All I can think is that A) it would get mud on it and B) That must be disorienting when part of your vision is a loose swinging eye EEEEWWWW! ---
**Author:** ![KSO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@KSO](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KSO)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-7-9-06-there-will-be-spoilers/363790/43 "2006-07-11T13:29:42Z")
I watched it again last night and decided that what bothered me about the eye wasn’t that it was bobbing around on a stalk, but the screams of fear and terror. I agree that Hearst wasn’t fooled by Adams at all. Yes, Steve needs a kick in the head from a horse. ---
**Author:** ![Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f0a364/32.png) [@Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rube_E.Tewesday)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-7-9-06-there-will-be-spoilers/363790/44 "2006-07-11T16:54:03Z")
Some total speculation on my part, so no spoiler box. Suppose Dan has killed Hawkeye, either on his own initiative or on Al’s orders, and Al knows it. Suppose Adams finds out. That would give Adams a great motivation to sell Al out to Hearst for real. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-7-9-06-there-will-be-spoilers/363790/45 "2006-07-11T16:59:07Z")
[QUOTE=Honey] Here’s something posted on the HBO boards by W. Earl Brown (Dan) about the fight. It’s really interesting. [Link](http://boards.hbo.com/thread.jspa?threadID=300001145&messageID=700126759#700126759) His username is BigEarlB. Hee. [/QUOTE] That link doesn’t work for me. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-7-9-06-there-will-be-spoilers/363790/46 "2006-07-11T17:20:01Z")
[QUOTE=BlackKnight] One thing I really liked about the fight was how they started out grappling and pounding with all their might, but it wasn’t long before they were obviously exhausted. Dan didn’t win because he was stronger, faster, or had more endurance. They seemed fairly evenly matched in those categories, and I think Turner had a slight advantage if anything. Dan was just plain _meaner_. [/QUOTE] Idon’t know if Dan was meaner… Turner bit Dan on the face within the first few minutes of the fight, if that ain’t mean I don’t know what is. And other people have mentioned that Turner looking to Hearst was the turning point…no way, Turner continued to beat the shit out of Dan until Dan went for the eye. ---
**Author:** ![KSO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@KSO](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KSO)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-7-9-06-there-will-be-spoilers/363790/47 "2006-07-11T17:46:13Z")
[QUOTE=Push You Down] Turner bit Dan on the face within the first few minutes of the fight, if that ain’t mean I don’t know what is. [/QUOTE] I thought Turner was pulling a Mike Tyson on Dan. Either way, ewwwwww. ---
**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-7-9-06-there-will-be-spoilers/363790/48 "2006-07-11T17:49:58Z")
I think Turner had Dan beaten until he turned up for a signal from Hearst. I agree that Turner’s screams are what did it for me. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-7-9-06-there-will-be-spoilers/363790/49 "2006-07-11T18:30:34Z")
[QUOTE=Push You Down] And other people have mentioned that Turner looking to Hearst was the turning point…no way, Turner continued to beat the shit out of Dan until Dan went for the eye. [/QUOTE] Way. Turner was drowning Dan in the puddle when he looked up at Hearst. That second of inattention is what gave Dan the chance to get his head outta the water. Otherwise, the fight would have ended there and Dan would have died ignominiously, his lungs full of foul water. Yes, Turner kept beating the shit out of him after that, but he wouldn’t have had the opportunity if he’d killed Dan in the puddle. And yeah, the screams did me in too. One doesn’t expect to hear a sound like that coming out of a grown man, though it was entirely appropriate. I actually felt bad for Turner in that moment, though god knows he had it coming. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-7-9-06-there-will-be-spoilers/363790/50 "2006-07-11T19:12:38Z")
[QUOTE=KSO] I thought Turner was pulling a Mike Tyson on Dan. Either way, ewwwwww. [/QUOTE] Yeah, I think he was. There was a shot toward the end of the fight that made it look like his cheek had been mostly gnawed off. ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-7-9-06-there-will-be-spoilers/363790/51 "2006-07-11T19:14:22Z")
[QUOTE=MaxTheVool] That link doesn’t work for me. [/QUOTE] **Max** It’s working ok for me. Can someone else try my link above and see if it works? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-7-9-06-there-will-be-spoilers/363790/52 "2006-07-11T19:18:52Z")
It worked for me. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-7-9-06-there-will-be-spoilers/363790/53 "2006-07-11T19:20:04Z")
Captain Turner was played by Allan Graff, former lineman from the '72 USC undefeated Trojans, who later started a long and respected career as a 2nd unit director, famous for developing a couple of unique stunts and for filming realistic football scenes for movies. Pretty interesting stuff about him [here](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0333689/bio). ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-7-9-06-there-will-be-spoilers/363790/54 "2006-07-11T19:26:39Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] I loved Seth’s incredulity when he asked Hearst, “Did you just tell me…fuck myself?” [/QUOTE] And of course Hearst’s awesome line that preceded it: “When I say for you to Go Fuck Yourself Sheriff, will you put that down to drunkenness or a high estimate of your athleticism?” ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-7-9-06-there-will-be-spoilers/363790/55 "2006-07-11T21:53:27Z")
Another funny exchange: Turner: Go tell your friend I know he’s afraid of me. Silas: Dority? Big guy? Turner: I guess he looks big to you. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-7-9-06-there-will-be-spoilers/363790/56 "2006-07-11T23:07:06Z")
I also loved that Dan called Turner, Captain Cuntface. I’ve said that phrase for years. (it’s also used in “The Specials” with Thomas Haden Church and Rob Lowe) ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2006, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-7-9-06-there-will-be-spoilers/363790/57 "2006-07-12T00:13:49Z")
[QUOTE=Honey] **Max** It’s working ok for me. Can someone else try my link above and see if it works? [/QUOTE] yeah, it’s working now. Interesting stuff. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2006, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-7-9-06-there-will-be-spoilers/363790/58 "2006-07-12T04:33:46Z")
I was just able to get in my first viewing… What was Al’s comment at Bullock was leading Hearst by the ear? Something like “the sheriff is removing many of our options” Which leads me to believe that Bullock unknowingly saved Hearst’s life by arresting him. Maybe that was his (Hearst) plan all along - to be placed in protective custody. ---
**Author:** ![cerberus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cerberus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cerberus)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2006, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-7-9-06-there-will-be-spoilers/363790/59 "2006-07-12T04:42:09Z")
Someone says “fuck” during the episode. ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2006, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-7-9-06-there-will-be-spoilers/363790/60 "2006-07-12T12:51:13Z")
[QUOTE=Push You Down] I also loved that Dan called Turner, Captain Cuntface. I’ve said that phrase for years. (it’s also used in “The Specials” with Thomas Haden Church and Rob Lowe) [/QUOTE] Dan also called him the “Sea creature”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-7-9-06-there-will-be-spoilers/363790.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deadwood-7-9-06-there-will-be-spoilers/363790.md?page=4)