# Dealing with family that supports trump.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dealing-with-family-that-supports-trump/821712>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 22, 2018, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dealing-with-family-that-supports-trump/821712 "2018-09-22T00:11:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dealing-with-family-that-supports-trump/821712/101 "2018-09-25T21:43:27Z")

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> [@elbows](#):
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> The word you’re looking for is, “Indeed !”
> 
> There is no declaration that cannot be answered with, “Indeed !”
> 
> Followed immediately by, “how about this weather, huh?” Stick with it, smile broadly, they’ll get the drift and leave it be, pretty quickly. By the third or fourth application they should all be grinning broadly too.
> 
> Not much room to take offence, just never engage and keep replying with, “Indeed!”
> 
> Good Luck to you and do report back, we’ll all be wondering how it went.

Ha!

I do that ALL the time!

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dealing-with-family-that-supports-trump/821712/102 "2018-09-25T23:33:25Z")

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Another tactic is asking for original data. I like that one.

> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> Does anyone else have one of those young college student relatives who has really drunk the radical leftist koolaid and now things everyone older than them is part of the evil patriarchal structure?

No, because they have me on their side, so they know we don’t all support the patriarchy.

I like to bone up on issues before family dinners, waiting until one of the poor kids is floundering, because s/he is to well-raised to tell parents, grandparents, and their assorted siblings what they really think, and start supporting them. “Actually, Niece is right, the bill says …”. They might disagree with me just as much, but they can’t laugh me off.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dealing-with-family-that-supports-trump/821712/103 "2018-09-26T04:21:48Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> I simply _quoted his own words_ and that is an ad hominem attack on him? Is yours just a parody of Republican “thought”?

I believe it is ad hominem in that it tries to portray the poster as a certain type of person and does not deal directly with the words the poster posted in this thread.

I think my jokes are hilarious though, either way. I am an independent, am married, and have a cat.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dealing-with-family-that-supports-trump/821712/104 "2018-09-27T04:08:19Z")

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> You want my opinion on liberal behavior?
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> Quite frankly if I was to slam a democrat they will quickly start calling me names like racist or sexist. Yeah, admit it. Anyone who had a problem with Obama was a “racist” and everyone who hated Hillary was “sexist”. It happened way too many times.
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> Maybe you are a “good” liberal but their are too damn many on the left who are not.
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> Or, maybe I am lumping together people on the left as much as some of you lump together all the people on the right?
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> Sounds like we could use more dialogue.

I think racism and sexism run along a continuum, and everyone falls somewhere on that line. I don’t believe many people are truly above racism, its more that on a 1-10 scale maybe leftists are a 3-4 and modern conservatives are a 5-6. with the alt right being more of a 7.

As a leftist, I’ve had people treat me like I’m evil because I eat meat. I can understand their argument, but I still eat it. I’ve had people treat me like I’m evil because I support abortion. By the same token I treat people like their evil for supporting sex offenders (Roy Moore, Trump, probably Kavanaugh, etc). So there is ample reason to call almost everyone evil if you look hard enough.

I don’t know what the answer is, or if there even is one. I think Americans are so divided that it’d be better if we focused more on letting cities and states self govern more.

The problem a lot of us have with Obama critics is that a lot of the criticism of him was false or exaggerated, but not only that but Trump actually does all the things the right has accused Clinton and Obama of doing.

Embarassing America?  
Destroying our reputation?  
Being incompetent?  
Being a ‘celebrity’?  
Being a sex offender?  
Having a charity that is actually a criminal organization?  
Working with Russia?  
Being in a sham marriage?

The list is endless. It bothers us because the right accused the Obamas & Clintons of tons of made up crimes, and they don’t care when Trump actually commits those same crimes and moral failings. It makes it hard for us tot ake their criticism seriously.

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dealing-with-family-that-supports-trump/821712/105 "2018-09-28T00:20:59Z")

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> [@elbows](#):
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> The word you’re looking for is, “Indeed !”
> 
> There is no declaration that cannot be answered with, “Indeed !”
> 
> Followed immediately by, “how about this weather, huh?” Stick with it, smile broadly, they’ll get the drift and leave it be, pretty quickly. By the third or fourth application they should all be grinning broadly too.
> 
> Not much room to take offence, just never engage and keep replying with, “Indeed!”
> 
> Good Luck to you and do report back, we’ll all be wondering how it went.

Indeed!

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