# Dealing with sleeplessness in the MMP **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** mmp\ **Created:** [March 12, 2018, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dealing-with-sleeplessness-in-the-mmp/810421 "2018-03-12T10:25:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![missred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/missred/32/14096_2.png) [@missred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missred)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dealing-with-sleeplessness-in-the-mmp/810421/41 "2018-03-12T23:32:03Z")
Welcome back **shoe**! Good luck oin your job interview. **Moooom** , while you’re losing a way cool car, your auto insurance should decrease considerably. I googled the kind of air mattress that I wanted as a guest bed and found one that I wanted at Tar-jay, but not my Tar-jay. I had to go there to pick up a prescription, so I checked out what they did have while I was there. Whaddya know? They did have the one I wanted, so I got it. No drive to the next town. Yay! I talked to Dad today. He has to spend another night in the horsepistol, but has graduated to soft food. He should go home tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dealing-with-sleeplessness-in-the-mmp/810421/42 "2018-03-13T00:52:55Z")
> [@FairyChatMom](#): > > The porsche was hard on his back and difficult for him to get out of. I hated it with a white hot hate. So now we have a white HHR. It was a convertible with some pep to it. ::Sigh:: I always wanted a topless go-go car. > [@dogbutler](#): > > I found this humerus. You’re just lucky you’re not within the radius of my ulna. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![dogbutler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dogbutler/32/428_2.png) [@dogbutler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dogbutler)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dealing-with-sleeplessness-in-the-mmp/810421/43 "2018-03-13T03:35:23Z")
> [@Spiderman](#): > > You’re just lucky you’re not within the radius of my ulna. :dubious: When your words reached my ears, I wanted to stapes you to the wall. ---
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dealing-with-sleeplessness-in-the-mmp/810421/44 "2018-03-13T04:17:28Z")
> [@FairyChatMom](#): > > Do you have any special techniques or tricks when you’re having trouble achieving slumber? Non-drug techniques, preferably. I have some bound sets of sermons from the first half of the 19th century. Maybe they were better in person but ----------- as reading all these years later even the good ones are real eye-lid-droppers. I keep one in the drawer of the nightstand when nothing else wants to turn my brain off. Irk was fine if longer than expected. On the good news we have played “musical managers” and I got my favorite back. What he thinks of the development will be determined tomorrow. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dealing-with-sleeplessness-in-the-mmp/810421/45 "2018-03-13T04:30:42Z")
> [@dogbutler](#): > > When your words reached my ears, I wanted to stapes you to the wall. Wrong [dude](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php), bub. Is nothing sacrum to you? ---
**Author:** ![dogbutler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dogbutler/32/428_2.png) [@dogbutler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dogbutler)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dealing-with-sleeplessness-in-the-mmp/810421/46 "2018-03-13T10:27:42Z")
Up, caffeintaed, sheveled. Off to work. Hockey after work. > [@Spiderman](#): > > Wrong [dude](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php), bub. Is nothing sacrum to you? : casts sternum glare Northward : ---
**Author:** ![swampbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampbear/32/467_2.png) [@swampbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampbear)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dealing-with-sleeplessness-in-the-mmp/810421/47 "2018-03-13T10:31:26Z")
Good Mornin’ Y’all! Up and caffeinatin’. _YAWN_ ‘Tis 36 Amurrkin out and clear (well, dark but TWPTB say clear so I’ll give that to ‘em) with a predicted high of 61 and N.O.S. for the day. Today shall be removal of the rest of the wallpaper in the livin’ room, ceilin’ paintin’ in the livin’ and dinin’ rooms, and the first coat of paint on walls in both rooms. Tomorrow the floors get measured. Home Depot shall do the measurin’ because they have a better price on what I want. Also today is laundry day and I shall meet a co-parishioner from good ol’ St. Pat’s at Sam’s for the purpose of purchasin’ briskets for the big feast. We shall purchase and take ‘em to the Parish hall and put ‘em into da fridge. We claimed space Sunday mornin’. Veggies and chikin shall be purchased on Firday mornin’ along with bread for the bread puddin’. Tonight we sup upon Stouffer’s lasagna, sallit, and cheesey garlic bread. That should be enough stuff to keep me outta trouble for the day. **Shoe** welcome back! Appropriate/inappropriate appendages crossed re the interviews for the new gig. Now I need more caffeine and to feed rumbly tummy. Then I suppose I should purtify as I am to go about the public. Happy Tuesday Y’all! ---
**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21906_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dealing-with-sleeplessness-in-the-mmp/810421/48 "2018-03-13T10:31:39Z")
> [@missred](#): > > **Moooom** , while you’re losing a way cool car, your auto insurance should decrease considerably. That’s what I thought, too, but it amounted to about $5/month. And the HHR is 5 years newer. Who knows… Good morning! I’m awake! I took my melatonin at 7 and by 8, I was ready to drop. My bladder roused me around midnight, but the rest of the time I was dealing with bizarro dreams. Bottom line, I’m rested and I feel almost human! YAY! I was messaging with my daughter yesterday. We suggested they sell one of their cars before moving, which they think is a good plan. Then when they get here, they can use those proceeds plus their other car as a trade in to get the minivan my SIL wants. (That boy ain’t right! He WANTS a minivan!!! :eek: ) But that means we’ll have to go there with 2 vehicles - I’m thinking we should use the truck to tow the HHR so we can ride together. Must investigate… Not much on my desk today - I need to ask for more work. I’ve got a couple of things to occupy me to start - then people should start showing up to give me stuff. I hope. Happy Tuesday! ---
**Author:** ![Sahirrnee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sahirrnee/32/13937_2.png) [@Sahirrnee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sahirrnee)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dealing-with-sleeplessness-in-the-mmp/810421/49 "2018-03-13T12:10:39Z")
Happy Toosday! It’s cold outside, 28 degrees. I’m not happy about it, I want the warmer weather back. I didn’t get enough sleep, the dog woke me at 6am by licking my toes. Ripple is a licker. I prefer dogs who aren’t. It doesn’t help that sometimes I get an itchy rash where he licks me. I know why it happens, I just don’t know why it only happens sometimes. [https://healthfully.com/dogs-saliva-make-skin-itch-8686326.html](https://healthfully.com/dogs-saliva-make-skin-itch-8686326.html) Nothing much to do today, just the usual irk, cooking, and cleaning. Toosday is dog day, so his nails get clipped and ears get cleaned. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dealing-with-sleeplessness-in-the-mmp/810421/50 "2018-03-13T12:34:31Z")
> [@filmore](#): > > I have no trouble falling asleep, but I have had problems staying asleep for years. Here are some of the things that I’ve learned and work for me: > > - Our perception of time is very bad when we are in bed. We often think we’re awake for hours, but in actuality it is shorter or we are dozing on and off. But we don’t realize when we are dozing, so we think we’re awake for the whole time. > - Just lie there and rest. Even I wake at 4 and feel like I’m awake until 7, by just resting in bed I get up refreshed. > - Listen to non-structured audio. My trick is youtube yoga videos. They are calm and don’t have any particular linear structure. Because there’s no plot or anything, I don’t get involved in the story and I don’t notice when I doze on and off. > - Occasionally take 1 benadryl. Don’t take it all the time or it loses its effectiveness > - Occasional use of an herbal remedy that is available in some states. > > For me, the trick is to just realize that my sleep pattern is like this and to just go with it. I will still get most of the benefits of sleep by just relaxing and resting in bed. As I’ve aged I’ve experienced sleep disturbance, mostly being up before dawn. But reading your post made me realize I go to sleep easily but can’t _stay_ asleep. When it first started I would wake up very early and immediately get angry! Of course you can’t get more sleep then! Your post really helped me! I’ve tried the dozing you suggested and realized you’re correct, my perception of not going back to sleep isn’t entirely correct. I’m also realizing I wake because I’m cold. Not shivering cold, just slightly chill, and often fetching another blanket and getting warmer puts me back to sleep. It’s a challenge though, as starting out with extra covers leads to night sweats, so it’s a fine balance. I’m still working at it, for sure. But I think the info you shared has actually helped me a lot. So thanks a ton! I thought my disturbed sleep pattern was intractable, but now it seems I can improve it! Thanks again! ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dealing-with-sleeplessness-in-the-mmp/810421/51 "2018-03-13T12:45:36Z")
> [@dogbutler](#): > > : casts sternum glare Northward : Man(dible), is that _all_ you got? ---
**Author:** ![Sahirrnee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sahirrnee/32/13937_2.png) [@Sahirrnee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sahirrnee)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dealing-with-sleeplessness-in-the-mmp/810421/52 "2018-03-13T13:10:49Z")
The sun is finally up and shining so I opened the blinds. What a surprise to see snow in the yard. Not much, and at least the sidewalks are clear, so no shoveling needed. ---
**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dealing-with-sleeplessness-in-the-mmp/810421/53 "2018-03-13T14:06:55Z")
Saw a doctor yesterday. She said I probably have tendinitis, and to take a few days off clarinet playing. I have rehearsal Wednesday (tomorrow.) I may ask the conductor if I can take that day off playing. Kinda worried. On the bright side, this morning I had time for real coffee instead of the instant swill. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dealing-with-sleeplessness-in-the-mmp/810421/54 "2018-03-13T14:49:36Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > **MetalMouse** I saw there was a new Honor Harrington book out. Have you read it? Any good? Also meant to ask if you read that series that Weber did John Ringo (March to the Sea, etc). Apparently, they’re finally doing another. Sunny, the book is part of a ‘prequel’ series I haven’t gotten into yet. The 'Last" Honor Harrington Novel is due out in November of this year. And I’ve read bits bits and pieces of the Weber/Ringo series, but just not my style. Besides, I’ve got a 1200-page monster I working through right now ( **Churchill: Defender of the Realm 1940-1965** ) that I’m less than a quarter of the way through. **FCM,** An HHR? That’s an old people’s car (wait, let me rephrase that…). And I, a life long bachelor, once owned a minivan, so I see nothing wrong with SIL looking for one. **Midget,** take it easy on the hand. Mine is still sore in spots from falling down over a month ago (of course, you are much younger that I and probably heal faster, but don’t push it, OK?) Sunshiny today, but still cool (42F at present). Need to do a little shopping later this morning and have a practice session with the 5-year old girls this afternoon. ---
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dealing-with-sleeplessness-in-the-mmp/810421/55 "2018-03-13T14:51:55Z")
Cold and damp and I am sorta sleepwalking through the morning. Waiting for something resembling an interest level. ---
**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21906_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dealing-with-sleeplessness-in-the-mmp/810421/56 "2018-03-13T15:48:59Z")
\*\*MetalMouse \*\*- his preference for the HHR was that it cold haul parts and such more easily than the porsche and being smaller than the truck, it would be cheaper to operate. And he \*is \*old! At least, he looks old. Sheesh! I’m not anti-minivan. My Aerostar was my favoritest vehicle ever! I put most of the 235K miles on it myself! It just struck me funny that a 30-y/o guy would want one. Then again, he’s in full daddy mode. 😃 Speaking of the HHR - it failed the Maryland vehicle inspection. Seems the pad on the brake pedal was too worn. Not a brake pad that stops the car, but the rubber pad over the pedal inside the vehicle. I can’t roll my eyes far enough or hard enough! Our car guys will get the replacement part in tomorrow and then it can be registered. I’m all for vehicle safety, but seriously??? PS - it’s amazing what a good night of sleep can do for one’s attitude! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![swampbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampbear/32/467_2.png) [@swampbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampbear)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dealing-with-sleeplessness-in-the-mmp/810421/57 "2018-03-13T16:11:42Z")
Much goin’ on today. Briskets have been purchased and stored in da fridge at the church house. There are signs on da fridge that say “Empty space is for food for Sattidy night. Do not put stuff there.” Wonder how long that space will stay empty. 😃 I now have the extra closet shelf, wallpaper is comin’ down and ceilin’s are bein’ painted. Plus I made a sallit for tonight. At some point I should start puttin’ stuff in the closet, I reckon. Fun times! ---
**Author:** ![Bumbazine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bumbazine/32/362_2.png) [@Bumbazine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bumbazine)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dealing-with-sleeplessness-in-the-mmp/810421/58 "2018-03-13T17:48:04Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > **Bumba** let me know if you want another mower to tide you over. We have a lightly used one that I bought for our yard before I got disabled. We maintained it, but it’s had a good, easy life. I need to stir myself to list it on Craig’s List. I’d be willing to send it along to a MMPer for freesies, or maybe some of your soap. That’s very kind and generous of you **Sunny** , but it looks like the old beast has some life left in it yet. It started with just 10 or 12 pulls, which is good considering it has sat in the shed since last fall. It even had some old gas in it, which is a no-no. You may get some free soap for the offer though, but you’ll have to PM me your particular again. i’m old and forgetful. They’re in the computer somewhere, so your name should suffice. > [@FairyChatMom](#): > > And today’s big news - \*\*FCD \*\*traded his Porsche for a Chevy HHR. It’s a 2008 but it had barely over 50K miles on it! It’s in beautiful condition, and I know I’ll like it lots more than the Porsche. I don’t remember much about the HHR **Mom** , but if it makes you happy, that’s a good thing. > [@kopek](#): > > I have some bound sets of sermons from the first half of the 19th century. Maybe they were better in person but ----------- as reading all these years later even the good ones are real eye-lid-droppers. I keep one in the drawer of the nightstand when nothing else wants to turn my brain off. I have a set of manuals for the IBM AS400 that will put a person to sleep in less than a page. 😛 I have no idea why I kept them. 😕 > [@swampbear](#): > > Much goin’ on today. Briskets have been purchased and stored in da fridge at the church house. There are signs on da fridge that say “Empty space is for food for Sattidy night. Do not put stuff there.” Wonder how long that space will stay empty. 😃 Those signs are being used for coasters even as we [del]speak[/del] write. 😛 Eating leftover jambalaya for [late] breakfast. Do I know how to live, or what? ---
**Author:** ![Buttercup\_Smith](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buttercup_smith/32/473_2.png) [@Buttercup\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buttercup_Smith)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dealing-with-sleeplessness-in-the-mmp/810421/59 "2018-03-13T18:32:09Z")
**Bumba** be living it up!!!11!! Blurf! irking. I can’t keep up with my managerial duties and work the front desk. Something has to give. ---
**Author:** ![Knight\_Of\_Few\_Words](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f475e1/32.png) [@Knight\_Of\_Few\_Words](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knight_Of_Few_Words)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dealing-with-sleeplessness-in-the-mmp/810421/60 "2018-03-13T18:45:34Z")
> [@FairyChatMom](#): > > Do you have any special techniques or tricks when you’re having trouble achieving slumber? Non-drug techniques, preferably. Something that’s worked very well for me is that I try not to look at bright screens late at night. On my PC I run some software called f.lux which automatically makes the screen redder after sunset. Artificial blue light is particularly bad for [suppressing melatonin production](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/q-a-why-is-blue-light-before-bedtime-bad-for-sleep/). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dealing-with-sleeplessness-in-the-mmp/810421.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dealing-with-sleeplessness-in-the-mmp/810421.md?page=4)