# Dear Americans, how do you feel about this?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-americans-how-do-you-feel-about-this/969991>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [August 20, 2022, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-americans-how-do-you-feel-about-this/969991 "2022-08-20T16:28:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-americans-how-do-you-feel-about-this/969991/21 "2022-08-20T17:16:15Z")

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> [@thescrr](#):
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> Think about it.

We have seen these arguments before, we know where they come from and why they’re made, and they don’t fool us.

Get better arguments.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-americans-how-do-you-feel-about-this/969991/22 "2022-08-20T17:23:16Z")

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> [@thescrr](#):
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> So the US has just updated the total amount of money they have sent to Ukraine so far: $50 billion.  
> $50 billion is a lot of money. Where is it coming from? Out of your pockets? Taxpayers money? Someone is making all this money and getting it from somewhere. Does the average american citizen feel like this a great use of their money? Would you rather see them use $50 billion towards your own homelessness issues or education, healthcare, mental health, urban crime, infrastructure, or helping disaster victims in America from floods, burning fires, and heatwaves? Just curious what the American citizen thinks about it.

LOL.

Are you familiar with America and what we actually care about?

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-americans-how-do-you-feel-about-this/969991/23 "2022-08-20T17:25:06Z")

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> [@thescrr](#):
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> Just curious what the American citizen thinks about it.

The same thing we thought about WW-II. It’s in the world’s best interest to stop a monster like Putin.

That you don’t understand this is amazing.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-americans-how-do-you-feel-about-this/969991/24 "2022-08-20T17:25:43Z")

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Of course it isn’t. Bots be bots.

**Delenda est Ruthenia!**

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-americans-how-do-you-feel-about-this/969991/25 "2022-08-20T17:47:30Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> The same thing we thought about WW-II. It’s in the world’s best interest to stop a monster like Putin.
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> That you don’t understand this is amazing.

Agree. And stopping aggressors early is usually a good investment. Stomping on Germany in 1937 would have saved the world a lot of money, and a lot of lives.  
I wonder why this person is so supportive of aggression.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-americans-how-do-you-feel-about-this/969991/26 "2022-08-20T17:56:07Z")

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Moderating:

I left this thread open for a period of time to give the OP an opportunity to debate their position in good faith. The well was then poisoned with provocative language such as:

> [@thescrr](#):
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> Yes I knew someone would bring that up. The US spends 700 billion a year on military and that is only about 2-3% of the total GDP of the USA which is around 25 trillion per year. Hmm but somehow the US is 30 trillion in debt and it keeps growing each year and that debt is handed down to you and your children. That doesn’t concern you? Will they just print more money when they need to? 50 billion seems like it would help a lot of Americans. Just saying.

> [@thescrr](#):
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> but you aren’t actually helping Ukraine with the fighting. You are only sending them weapons. It’s not really like America is stepping in to help Ukraine. Think about it. And it’s great you want to help people, so why aren’t you helping the Palestinians or the Afghans or the other number of countries you’ve let down and left behind in ruins like in the middle east? Just asking.

I’m not seeing any good faith effort at debate here on the part of the OP, so I’m closing this.

@thescrr, if you start another such thread, I will characterize it as trolling, with appropriate consequences imposed.

ETA:

It was brought to my attention that there are several accusations of the OP’s being a bot in this thread.

> [@silenus](#):
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> Exactly. With emphasis. **Delenda est Ruthenia!** Damn the cost.

> [@silenus](#):
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> A bot farm outside Moscow, I suspect.

> [@silenus](#):
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> Of course it isn’t. Bots be bots.
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> **Delenda est Ruthenia!**

This is against our rules and you know better, @silenus. It’s a close call whether to issue a warning. Knock it off.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-americans-how-do-you-feel-about-this/969991/27 "2022-08-20T17:56:22Z")

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