# Dear Attractive Married Women: Plz Wear A Ring.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-attractive-married-women-plz-wear-a-ring/641336>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 17, 2012, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-attractive-married-women-plz-wear-a-ring/641336 "2012-11-17T19:13:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-attractive-married-women-plz-wear-a-ring/641336/221 "2012-11-19T13:20:49Z")

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> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#):
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> I know that many men are of the opinion that any woman can be laid or bought if a man uses the right plan. I don’t know of ANY men who are 100% successful in their seductions, even if they choose their targets with care.

I don’t think it’s a significant percentage of men who believe this, let alone attempt it. I know that on the Internet there are people who say it, but I doubt I’ve ever heard it in real life. Other than the blowhards who you shouldn’t believe anything that comes out of their mouths.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-attractive-married-women-plz-wear-a-ring/641336/222 "2012-11-19T13:47:19Z")

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Oh, I don’t think it’s a significant amount of men, either. I have run into men in real life who believed that any woman could be bought, though, it was just a question of offering her enough money.

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-attractive-married-women-plz-wear-a-ring/641336/223 "2012-11-19T15:17:05Z")

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> [@gamerunknown](#):
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> I find it hard to believe you support Democratic voter suppression.

Perhaps you should try reading for comprehension one day.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-attractive-married-women-plz-wear-a-ring/641336/224 "2012-11-19T15:17:59Z")

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> [@FlyByNight512](#):
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> I do not think you’re a pig, chauvinist, or passive-aggressive. Just somewhat unaware of the implications of what you’re saying. There’s lots of patriarchal bullshit that people in our society - men and women - buy into unconsciously, and there was some of that in the OP. There probably would have been much sympathy for a “I met a great woman, but dammit she’s married!” rant. It’s the part where it somehow makes you feel wronged, and that’s somehow her fault for not matching your idea of appropriate attire for a married woman that is BS.

> [@RickJay](#):
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> Oh, what unadulterated stupidity this is. “Patriarchal bullshit?” Seriously? Jesus Christ. Starting a silly thread on this mildest of little complaints was clearly a serious error, since apparently I’m now either a pig, a chauvinist or a passive-agressive jerk; at this point it’s hard to keep up.

But this is a perfect example of how patriarchal ideas are embedded into us unconsciously. I, for one, don’t think that RickJay had any nefarious intentions and I accept at face value his claim that all that he wanted to do was post a light-hearted regret at the disappointment of an attractive woman being unavailable to him.

But what set people off here – or at least what set me off – was that he couched his light-hearted regret in terms that represent a throwback to values that we as a society just now trying to struggle free of – that women owe men some kind of a priori visible signal as to their availability, whether in the guise of a wedding ring or something else, such as changing their mode of address from “Miss Catherine” to “Mrs. Robertson.”

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-attractive-married-women-plz-wear-a-ring/641336/225 "2012-11-19T15:20:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> …it was just a question of offering her enough money.

One simply does not offer money, that is crude and insulting. One displays money, much like a peacock fans his tail.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-attractive-married-women-plz-wear-a-ring/641336/226 "2012-11-19T15:49:58Z")

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> [@Troppus](#):
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> No, it’s legit. A woman at a bar can expect to be hit on. A woman at work, the grocery, her job, etc would prefer to be regarded as a person, not a pussy. I have never worn relationship jewelry, and resent being considered fair game because I’m female and without a circular dick deflector on my ring finger.
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> “But Og find woman! Og want woman! Woman no want Og! Og smash things in rage and call woman bitch and lesbian! World revolve around Og’s dick!!”

I used to wear a wedding ring to work just to fend off potential customers like the OP, the real problem was that it wasted my time…I don’t need to deal with guys that are pretending to be customers because they haven’t figured out the difference between a workplace and a singles bar.

And then they get all butthurt. I mean, this one guy years ago kept asking me out to dinner to discuss a particular piece of business, I finally wrote him back saying it would have to be lunch because I reserve my evenings for my personal life , and I thought that was clear enough.

So we had lunch, I deflected everything back to business whenever he tried to stray, then at the end of it all he said, "Well, that was fun, I haven’t had a date since my divorce, let’s do it again sometime.

At which point I informed him that I didn’t consider the lunch a date and in fact I had a boyfriend ( which was actually true at the time ). He stormed off without a word.

The next time I saw him it was 4 years later at a business event, he was talking with a group that included some friends of mine. I walked up to the groups and gave a general hello and joined in the conversation…at which point this guy turned around and stormed off…4 freaking years after one lunch.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-attractive-married-women-plz-wear-a-ring/641336/227 "2012-11-19T15:51:28Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> “Sorry, but I’m a lesbian.”  
> “Well, shit, why don’t you at least dress like one!”  
> “It just now happened.”

> [@elucidator](#):
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> Or at least lower your standards!

> [@elucidator](#):
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> Well, that’s a lot easier than male black widow spiders have it. They politely inquire as to their status as a prospective mate only to find that they are considered food. But they go ahead and do it anyway. Not very smart.
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> Luckily, we are much smarter than that, and can entirely ignore such Darwinian hard-wiring. Or so I’m told.

> [@elucidator](#):
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> There’s an app for that.

> [@elucidator](#):
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> How do you know when a woman is a feminist? Don’t worry, she’ll tell you.

> [@elucidator](#):
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> When did the Pit morph into the Penthouse Forum?

> [@elucidator](#):
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> Graffiti spotted at the U of M technology Dept, Women’s bathroom, circa 1970
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> “Call (blank) at 555-1234. He’s clean, safe, and handsome.”
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> “But can he type?”
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> “Honey, I don’t care if he can read!”

> [@elucidator](#):
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> Just be happy you have Leonids. Damn sure don’t want Cancernids.

> [@elucidator](#):
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> We really should stick to religion and politics in the Pit, not nearly so rancorous as talking about sex.

> [@elucidator](#):
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> One simply does not offer money, that is crude and insulting. One displays money, much like a peacock fans his tail.

All from this thread. Quantity over quality?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-attractive-married-women-plz-wear-a-ring/641336/228 "2012-11-19T16:01:35Z")

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Don’t have to read any of them, hoss. I’ll get over it.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-attractive-married-women-plz-wear-a-ring/641336/229 "2012-11-19T16:21:43Z")

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While I love this thread, I have totally lost track. As a woman who is in a LTR but not married (hence no ring) am I supposed to wear a vagina “no vacancy” sign or be offended by the OP or what?

I need like a Cliffs notes for this thread.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-attractive-married-women-plz-wear-a-ring/641336/230 "2012-11-19T16:38:06Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> One simply does not offer money, that is crude and insulting. One displays money, much like a peacock fans his tail.

That explains A LOT of rap videos.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-attractive-married-women-plz-wear-a-ring/641336/231 "2012-11-19T16:39:06Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> While I love this thread, I have totally lost track. As a woman who is in a LTR but not married (hence no ring) am I supposed to wear a vagina “no vacancy” sign or be offended by the OP or what?
> 
> I need like a Cliffs notes for this thread.

You’re supposed to get a “NO VAGINA VACANCY” tattoo for your forehead, I think.

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**Author:** ![The\_Surb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@The\_Surb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Surb)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-attractive-married-women-plz-wear-a-ring/641336/232 "2012-11-19T16:57:05Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> You’re supposed to get a “NO VAGINA VACANCY” tattoo for your forehead, I think.

Actually you need to have a VAGINA VACANCY tat with a little neon “NO” that you can turn on and off depending on the current situational need.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-attractive-married-women-plz-wear-a-ring/641336/233 "2012-11-19T17:16:31Z")

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Virgins, put on your “no entry” signs! We are about to confront… guys!

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-attractive-married-women-plz-wear-a-ring/641336/234 "2012-11-19T17:21:20Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> Virgins, put on your “no entry” signs! We are about to confront… guys!

Sounds like a quote from “Jim Morrison, An American Prayer.”

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-attractive-married-women-plz-wear-a-ring/641336/235 "2012-11-19T17:28:06Z")

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> [@Freakenstein](#):
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> Sooner or later he’s going to be suspicious about a guy who is hanging around his wife and in the best case scenario there will be a fistfight.

I’m pretty sure the best case scenario is the one where the husband is secure and trusts his wife and doesn’t give a shit that she’s friends with some other dude.

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**Author:** ![Vita\_Beata](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@Vita\_Beata](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vita_Beata)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-attractive-married-women-plz-wear-a-ring/641336/236 "2012-11-19T17:31:41Z")

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> [@Faruiza](#):
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> That is a “vajacancy”.

I love this thread!

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-attractive-married-women-plz-wear-a-ring/641336/237 "2012-11-19T17:33:28Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> While I love this thread, I have totally lost track. As a woman who is in a LTR but not married (hence no ring) am I supposed to wear a vagina “no vacancy” sign or be offended by the OP or what?

Well, you can get around the requirement by being unattractive.

ETA: global “you”. Not insinuating anything about your looks.

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**Author:** ![enomaj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/59ef9b/32.png) [@enomaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enomaj)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-attractive-married-women-plz-wear-a-ring/641336/238 "2012-11-19T18:00:30Z")

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> [@the\_diego](#):
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> I usually find out first before engaging, even to the point of being brash and direct.

Are you married?  
Why, yes.  
Fuck off!

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-attractive-married-women-plz-wear-a-ring/641336/239 "2012-11-19T18:07:50Z")

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Then again, nobody misses a slice off a cut loaf.

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**Author:** ![enomaj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/59ef9b/32.png) [@enomaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enomaj)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-attractive-married-women-plz-wear-a-ring/641336/240 "2012-11-19T18:21:17Z")

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Depends on how big the knife was.

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