# Dear CitizenPained **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 1, 2012, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-citizenpained/611362 "2012-02-01T00:19:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2012, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-citizenpained/611362/41 "2012-02-01T18:43:42Z")
> [@markm](#): > > 1. unprotected sex with her long-term BF, oh wait, we’d been broken up for quite a period then he comes back into my life, and he cheated on me during the time we weren’t dating \ We were ON A \*\*BREAK \*\*! \ ---
**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2012, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-citizenpained/611362/42 "2012-02-01T18:51:57Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > She’s been pinging my bullshit meter since the first time I read that supposedly she’s a teacher. If she really is a teacher, she’s an extraordinarily shitty one, based on what she’s posted around here. But I don’t think she is one at all. It didn’t actually ping my bullshit meter at first, but I always did think she sounded like an awful teacher. She talks about those kids like they’re extras from Stand and Deliver. “Phst, Miss, you black”? Really? Who the hell talks like that? And they all apparently talk the same way. Between that and the childhood obesity thread where she basically said that a parent should just tell their kid “hey, fat-ass, lose some weight right now!” and refused to believe that a teen might react poorly to that (and cited the behaviour of her 6 year old as proof) it makes me wonder if she has ever bothered to get to know a teenager at all. ---
**Author:** ![florez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9e5f3/32.png) [@florez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/florez)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2012, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-citizenpained/611362/43 "2012-02-01T19:25:32Z")
[quote=“lorene, post:38, topic:611362”] ## But those Brown and Black students [love her enough to consider her an honorary member of their race](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14693637&postcount=1). And she loves the children of color enough to collect donations from us–for them–despite the fact that she herself is in such a desperate place financially. —How big of her. I would personally like to make her the honorary Queen of Mexico. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2012, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-citizenpained/611362/44 "2012-02-01T19:32:36Z")
The timing of her pregnancy seems way off. The doctors are supposed to be saying it’s plausible she’s just five weeks along right now, yet she had a positive pregnancy test three weeks ago? That’s impossible. Pregnancies are dated by convention from the start of your last period, which makes “2 weeks pregnant” roughly the date of conception, not the date when you can get a positive test (that’s more like “4 weeks”). The information about only being able to see a yolk sac at “5 weeks” rings a bell from my time on the mommy boards a few years ago, so I think she got that right, but dropped the ball on the dating convention. (Hell enough people do that who really are pregnant.) She’s definitely not just counting erroneously from the date of conception all along, because you _can_ see an embryo at “7 weeks” pregnant. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2012, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-citizenpained/611362/45 "2012-02-01T19:41:21Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > \ > We were ON A \*\*BREAK \*\*! > \ \ Ha! ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2012, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-citizenpained/611362/46 "2012-02-01T19:45:52Z")
I honestly can’t get a read one way or the other, but if all the stuff is actually true, she’s got a lot of crap going on. And her step-mother is the stupidest person alive. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2012, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-citizenpained/611362/47 "2012-02-01T20:08:23Z")
This pitting is long overdue. She’s either crazy or trolling. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2012, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-citizenpained/611362/48 "2012-02-01T20:16:41Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > This pitting is long overdue. She’s either crazy or trolling. Or trolling like crazy! ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2012, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-citizenpained/611362/49 "2012-02-01T20:24:37Z")
> [@even\_sven](#): > > I wouldn’t. It’s a pretty common thing in a “one of these things is not like the other” situations. I think it’s just one of the ways people use to address these kinds of dynamics, when we don’t really have a good vocabulary for discussing them in a straightforward way. Oh, I know that it happens. I just don’t think it happened to the person who started [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=627419) or [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=633737). Actually, it’s not the starting of those threads, even, but some of the posts contained therein. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2012, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-citizenpained/611362/50 "2012-02-01T21:39:00Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > This pitting is long overdue. She’s either crazy or trolling. Can’t she be both, like the late Earl Warren? ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2012, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-citizenpained/611362/51 "2012-02-01T23:25:58Z")
Honestly, I think she’s largely for real, (though one always assumes a certain amount of exaggeration on the internet). The mixture of confidence and insecurity seems very real to me, and her teacher stories seem authentic to this teacher. ---
**Author:** ![Toucanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Toucanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toucanna)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2012, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-citizenpained/611362/52 "2012-02-01T23:47:52Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > {snip} Even if the story is made up, there are still people doing similar things all over America every single day. {snip} Hey, _somebody_ has to take over for [“Whitey” Bulger](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_J._Bulger). ---
**Author:** ![rogerbox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/76d3ee/32.png) [@rogerbox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rogerbox)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-citizenpained/611362/53 "2012-02-02T00:04:33Z")
I’ve often felt sympathy for those she is supposed to be teaching. ---
**Author:** ![MichaelEmouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michaelemouse/32/101_2.png) [@MichaelEmouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelEmouse)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-citizenpained/611362/54 "2012-02-02T00:11:31Z")
> [@MandaJo](#): > > The mixture of confidence and insecurity seems very real to me What composes that mixture and why does it seem very real to you? ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-citizenpained/611362/55 "2012-02-02T00:31:18Z")
> [@MichaelEmouse](#): > > What composes that mixture and why does it seem very real to you? Well, she’s cocky enough to tell me I’m an appalling teacher because I don’t do what she learned to do in Education classes, but too young to realize that good teachers have to reject all that stuff. She’s insecure enough that she bends over backwards to “see the other side” about the older guy that knocked her up at 19 and then said “I can’t handle this, I’ll send money”, but young and brash enough to think that she can take on single motherhood by herself. It just strikes me as authentic. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-citizenpained/611362/56 "2012-02-02T00:44:50Z")
> [@MandaJo](#): > > Well, she’s cocky enough to tell me I’m an appalling teacher because I don’t do what she learned to do in Education classes, but too young to realize that good teachers have to reject all that stuff. She’s insecure enough that she bends over backwards to “see the other side” about the older guy that knocked her up at 19 and then said “I can’t handle this, I’ll send money”, but young and brash enough to think that she can take on single motherhood by herself. It just strikes me as authentic. She’s already “taken on single motherhood by herself”. She has a ten-year-old. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-citizenpained/611362/57 "2012-02-02T00:48:36Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > She’s already “taken on single motherhood by herself”. She has a ten-year-old. I know. That’s the one that the father told her he’d send money but that he didn’t want to have anything to do with the baby. ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-citizenpained/611362/58 "2012-02-02T00:51:23Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > She’s already “taken on single motherhood by herself”. She has a ten-year-old. He’s not 10. He is 6 or 7. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-citizenpained/611362/59 "2012-02-02T01:00:53Z")
Sorry, I thought she said ten. And I thought you were talking about the latest pregnancy, **Manda Jo**. Hard to keep track of all the details she was talking about. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-citizenpained/611362/60 "2012-02-02T01:17:03Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Sorry, I thought she said ten. And I thought you were talking about the latest pregnancy, **Manda Jo**. Hard to keep track of all the details she was talking about. > > Sorry. Hell I couldn’t even keep track of who we were talking about. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-citizenpained/611362.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-citizenpained/611362.md?page=4)