# Dear Conspiracy Theorists, **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 18, 2008, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-conspiracy-theorists/453346 "2008-06-18T15:32:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![LilShieste](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9f8e36/32.png) [@LilShieste](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilShieste)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-conspiracy-theorists/453346/21 "2008-06-18T19:39:32Z")
[QUOTE=Cisco] People with brains, basic logic and reasoning skills, facts, evidence, basic understanding of how the world works. You know, it’s _really_ not that hard to see that movie for the 100% blue ribbon bullshit that it is. And I’m an atheist with a general distrust of authority. [/QUOTE] When you think about it, aren’t facts just a special type of opinion? 😛 Seriously, though: what **Cisco** said. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-conspiracy-theorists/453346/22 "2008-06-18T20:07:57Z")
[QUOTE=cmyk] • Understand that this is not proof. This is manipulated, cherry-picked, circumstantial evidence that has been twisted by fucktards in order to make a buck off your gullible ass. None of these people are trained in image analysis or have earned any sort of credentials that will give any sort of authoritative voice. They are finding footage that looks odd and unintuitive and begging the question as to why there would be any other explanation other than to believe in their dumb-ass theory. [/QUOTE] And those who do have credentials either have them in the wrong field (Steven Jones), have been spoonfed evidence (Danny Jowenko), are liars (Kevin Ryan), or are total moonbats (Judy Wood and John Lear). ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-conspiracy-theorists/453346/23 "2008-06-18T20:15:48Z")
Government has enough small conspiracies that are apparent. I really don’t think them capable of hiding anything huge. The biggest failing of every conspiracy theory is the number of people who have to be involved for a conspiracy to work. A naval ship shot down TWA800? So, every sailor aboard has never said a word…right there, the conspiracy fails. You want conspiracies? Watch lobbyists shape legislation. ---
**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-conspiracy-theorists/453346/24 "2008-06-18T20:26:43Z")
I know a guy like that. He’s a full-on American Spectator readin, gun totin, Rush listenin, FOX news watchin, Bush lovin, Clinton hatin necon. Absolutely everything he reads on right wing websites is regarded as gawds own truth. Arguments against him always end with ‘Oh yeah? Well Clinton did X!’ I’m always hearing about how the Clintons have had 100s of people murdered, and how Clinton started up a crime database but had the project killed when his name kept coming up, and how Clinton was best buddies with Osama bin Laden, and how Hillary is really a communist, etc. I’ve found the best way to deal with him is just treat him like a troll: ignore him. When he doesn’t get the expected response to his drivel, he shuts up pretty quickly. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-conspiracy-theorists/453346/25 "2008-06-18T20:30:40Z")
[QUOTE=hotflungwok] I know a guy like that. Absolutely everything he reads on right wing websites is regarded as gawds own truth. [/QUOTE] You know **Shodan**? My sympathies. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-conspiracy-theorists/453346/26 "2008-06-18T20:50:51Z")
[QUOTE=MGibson] Did you watch _Zeitgeist_? Marc [/QUOTE] Maybe yes, maybe no. Who wants to know? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![gravitycrash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@gravitycrash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gravitycrash)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-conspiracy-theorists/453346/27 "2008-06-18T21:01:53Z")
Oh man, my co-worker eats this conspiracy crap up. What is strange is that he is a good technician and certainly not stupid. At least he acknowledges the moon landings so all is not lost. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-conspiracy-theorists/453346/28 "2008-06-18T21:50:07Z")
9/11 is just part of the interlocking, interconnected multipart world domination plan. The real action involves mandatory immunization. Remember: _“[The preferred Iluminati method to introduce disease is via vaccinations](http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/nwopopcontrol.shtml)”_ ---
**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-conspiracy-theorists/453346/29 "2008-06-18T21:52:23Z")
Remember all that stuff about how if you folded US currency, you could spell “USAMA” and you could see the towers falling etc.? ---
**Author:** ![Illuminatiprimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/illuminatiprimus/32/11520_2.png) [@Illuminatiprimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Illuminatiprimus)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-conspiracy-theorists/453346/30 "2008-06-18T21:59:56Z")
[QUOTE=D\_Odds] Government has enough small conspiracies that are apparent. I really don’t think them capable of hiding anything huge. [/QUOTE] I work in government - believe me we simply don’t possess the level of competency required to execute conspiracies, even the simple ones. Hell, the British secret service can’t even refrain from allowing secret information to be made accessible to anyone catching a train. :smack: I used to work in a policy that was quite high profile but also controversial and highly unpopular in some circles (the opposition to it almost bordered on conspiracy theorist paranoia and stupidity sometimes). I sat in the Ministerial and senior management meetings and was aware of pretty much all the issues going on and it really was far more mundane and uninteresting than you could ever imagine. CTs also seem to forget that the government is comprised of people, not unthinking automatons who carry out any instruction given to them. ---
**Author:** ![Illuminatiprimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/illuminatiprimus/32/11520_2.png) [@Illuminatiprimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Illuminatiprimus)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-conspiracy-theorists/453346/31 "2008-06-18T22:02:38Z")
[QUOTE=Jackmannii] 9/11 is just part of the interlocking, interconnected multipart world domination plan. The real action involves mandatory immunization. Remember: _“[The preferred Iluminati method to introduce disease is via vaccinations](http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/nwopopcontrol.shtml)”_ [/QUOTE] Fnord. ---
**Author:** ![Jayn\_Newell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Jayn\_Newell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jayn_Newell)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-conspiracy-theorists/453346/32 "2008-06-18T22:11:32Z")
[QUOTE=Jackmannii] 9/11 is just part of the interlocking, interconnected multipart world domination plan. The real action involves mandatory immunization. Remember _“[The preferred Iluminati method to introduce disease is via vaccinations](http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/nwopopcontrol.shtml)”_ [/QUOTE] > [@](#): > > The Illuminati’s current plan to reduce the world’s population was set into motion at a **1957** symposium on future world development. (bolding mine) I’m pretty sure whatever their plan is, it isn’t working. ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-conspiracy-theorists/453346/33 "2008-06-18T22:38:58Z")
Obligatory link to [relevant cartoon](http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/conspiracy_theories.png) about the topic of this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-conspiracy-theorists/453346/34 "2008-06-18T23:38:20Z")
33 posts and still not one mention of the Gay Agenda? Feh. Amateurs! ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-conspiracy-theorists/453346/35 "2008-06-18T23:45:54Z")
[QUOTE=Mighty\_Girl] 33 posts and still not one mention of the Gay Agenda? Feh. Amateurs! [/QUOTE] That just shows how powerful it is. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-conspiracy-theorists/453346/36 "2008-06-18T23:55:08Z")
[QUOTE=gravitycrash] Oh man, my co-worker eats this conspiracy crap up. What is strange is that he is a good technician and certainly not stupid. At least he acknowledges the moon landings so all is not lost. [/QUOTE] Yeah, well, even if we assume that the average Doper is more intelligent than the average citizen (which is far from proven), we still have people asserting price gouging by oil companies and election fixing by the Republicans, so don’t ever think that smart people are immune from idiocy. ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-conspiracy-theorists/453346/37 "2008-06-19T00:45:43Z")
No Jewish Conspiracy mentioned? Fine. How about a Gay Jewish Conspiracy then. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-conspiracy-theorists/453346/38 "2008-06-19T00:50:58Z")
Reality is far more unorganized than we could ever hope for. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-conspiracy-theorists/453346/39 "2008-06-19T00:59:10Z")
Oh, yeah? Well, one of my brothers-in-law sends me the type of glurge we make fun of almost daily, and another one is trying to learn to get all his nutrition from sunlight. What do I win? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-conspiracy-theorists/453346/40 "2008-06-19T03:45:51Z")
[QUOTE=Boyo Jim] That just shows how powerful it is. [/QUOTE] “They dyed me this color!” Stranger [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-conspiracy-theorists/453346.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-conspiracy-theorists/453346.md?page=3)