# Dear "Enjoy, Steven" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 23, 2008, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-enjoy-steven/469248 "2008-10-23T19:37:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-enjoy-steven/469248/1 "2008-10-23T19:37:30Z")
Could you please join brother [**Shodan**](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=489181) who has elected to no longer post his signature outside of the provided signature format. It pisses people off who want to avoid looking at signatures. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-enjoy-steven/469248/2 "2008-10-23T19:43:45Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > Could you please join brother [**Shodan**](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=489181) who has elected to no longer post his signature outside of the provided signature format. > > It pisses people off who want to avoid looking at signatures. I agree. Thoughfully yours, Tahssa ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-enjoy-steven/469248/3 "2008-10-23T19:46:02Z")
I swear, at one point this was some big Pit issue that was argued and hashed about and there was handwringing and gnashing of teeth. And it all boiled down to … eh, what’s the big deal. And now, 8 years after I register, it gets resolved in one fell swoop. Or one swell foop. Whichever. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-enjoy-steven/469248/4 "2008-10-23T20:01:30Z")
Eh, I used to be annoyed by it, but I thought a bit more and realised I was being pissed of by _politeness_. I think I was finding myself in quite strong disagreement with **Shodan** and so interpreting his “regards” as snide, which was unfair of me. If his regards are genuine, then I welcome them in either form. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-enjoy-steven/469248/5 "2008-10-23T20:08:44Z")
I will never understand why some people have their panties in such a bunch over two short lines of text. ---
**Author:** ![NinjaChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@NinjaChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinjaChick)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-enjoy-steven/469248/6 "2008-10-23T20:12:32Z")
> [@Revenant\_Threshold](#): > > Eh, I used to be annoyed by it, but I thought a bit more and realised I was being pissed of by _politeness_. I think I was finding myself in quite strong disagreement with **Shodan** and so interpreting his “regards” as snide, which was unfair of me. If his regards are genuine, then I welcome them in either form. Only it’s not polite. Posting to a message board or forum is different from writing even a personal email. I’ve never seen any message board where one is encouraged to sign their posts, because it’s just unnecessary. It may just be me, but when I see that, I tend to assume that the poster is either being a jackass, or is some sort of Luddite who just crawled out of their cave to their Gateway 486 to post their little message and is quite cheerfully and willfully ignorant of the social rules of this community. ---
**Author:** ![Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tastes_of_chocolate/32/3232_2.png) [@Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tastes_of_Chocolate)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-enjoy-steven/469248/7 "2008-10-23T21:02:19Z")
> [@NinjaChick](#): > > It may just be me, but when I see that, I tend to assume that the poster is either being a jackass, or is some sort of Luddite who just crawled out of their cave to their Gateway 486 to post their little message and is quite cheerfully and willfully ignorant of the social rules of this community. Maybe not JUST you, but it’s certainly not all of us. It’s two little lines of text. Hell, it’s less obtrusive then the “From” field, or some people’s screen names. ---
**Author:** ![thirdwarning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecccb3/32.png) [@thirdwarning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thirdwarning)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-enjoy-steven/469248/8 "2008-10-23T21:08:07Z")
Maybe it’s just me, but I always kind of enjoyed it. It was just what Shodan did, one of the things that made somewhat anonymous message board posts a little more personal. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-enjoy-steven/469248/9 "2008-10-23T21:41:14Z")
> [@Tahssa](#): > > Thoughfully yours, > Tahssa Is it missing a “t”, or hmmmm…maybe a \? Just Wondering, Yeticus Rex ---
**Author:** ![Peanut\_Gallery](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/838e76/32.png) [@Peanut\_Gallery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peanut_Gallery)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-enjoy-steven/469248/10 "2008-10-23T21:51:41Z")
> [@Revenant\_Threshold](#): > > Eh, I used to be annoyed by it, but I thought a bit more and realised I was being pissed of by _politeness_. I think I was finding myself in quite strong disagreement with **Shodan** and so interpreting his “regards” as snide, which was unfair of me. If his regards are genuine, then I welcome them in either form. Glad you managed to fool yourself in order to feel better. It is transparent snide from where I sit. But I don’t mind much since I more or less dis-Regards his posts anyway. Such a cute little troll. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-enjoy-steven/469248/11 "2008-10-23T21:53:19Z")
Let’s try to compromise. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-enjoy-steven/469248/12 "2008-10-23T21:55:43Z")
> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#): > > Is it missing a “t”, or hmmmm…maybe a \? > > Just Wondering, > Yeticus Rex Nah. You need to read backwards ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-enjoy-steven/469248/13 "2008-10-23T22:11:18Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > Nah. You need to read backwards “sruoy yllufhguoht?” I don’t get it. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-enjoy-steven/469248/14 "2008-10-23T22:16:40Z")
> [@Lord\_Ashtar](#): > > I will never understand why some people have their panties in such a bunch over two short lines of text. We asked nicely and Shodan nicely agreed. No panties in bunches. I wouldn’t have asked except there was that rather pitiful PITing going on,😛 and I figured, hey, why not ask? And here, they are asking the same of Steven. If he goes along with it, great. If not- oh well. And of course, it _is_ only two short lines of text. Do we then say 3 lines are OK? How about 200? 2000? One MB I was on had serious issues because of extreme sig lenght. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-enjoy-steven/469248/15 "2008-10-23T22:17:28Z")
> [@NinjaChick](#): > > Only it’s not polite. Posting to a message board or forum is different from writing even a personal email. I’ve never seen any message board where one is encouraged to sign their posts, because it’s just unnecessary. > > It may just be me, but when I see that, I tend to assume that the poster is either being a jackass, or is some sort of Luddite who just crawled out of their cave to their Gateway 486 to post their little message and is quite cheerfully and willfully ignorant of the social rules of this community. Eh. It’s superfluous, but that doesn’t mean it has to be evilly motivated. I can’t say whether Shodan means it for good or ill, but either way it’s a pretty small bit of either politeness or snideness that really doesn’t bother me in either way, and I think it was wrong of me to have automatically assumed he was bein an ass. [QUOTE=Peanut Gallery] Glad you managed to fool yourself in order to feel better. It is transparent snide from where I sit. But I don’t mind much since I more or less dis-Regards his posts anyway. Such a cute little troll. [/QUOTE] But I don’t feel better. Righteous annoyance is very easy to feel, while contrition isn’t. I am more annoyed with myself at having leapt to conclusions than I was at him for thinking he was a jerk. And i’m flattered by your assumption that i’m deliberately delusional rather than imperceptive. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-enjoy-steven/469248/16 "2008-10-23T22:18:01Z")
> [@Q.E.D](#): > > “sruoy yllufhguoht?” > > I don’t get it. It’s Welsh, for “ass hat”. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-enjoy-steven/469248/17 "2008-10-23T22:23:52Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > We asked nicely and Shodan nicely agreed. No panties in bunches. I didn’t mean you specifically when I mentioned bunched panties. People have been bitching about **Shodan’s** closing for years now. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-enjoy-steven/469248/18 "2008-10-23T22:30:31Z")
> [@NinjaChick](#): > > It may just be me, but when I see that, I tend to assume that the poster is either being a jackass, or is some sort of Luddite who just crawled out of their cave to their Gateway 486 to post their little message and is quite cheerfully and willfully ignorant of the social rules of this community. I used to sign my posts and I’m neither of those. Hmm. Maybe I’ll go back to it. I’m quite cheerful and now that you’ve made the rules of this social community known (as I’m sure there’s some rule book out there that definitively answers the question), I can ~really~ be willfully ignorant. Sounds like fun. > [@Jack Batty](#): > > It’s Welsh, for “ass hat”. Ooh. That might be a good one to start with. But does it apply to the person posting or is it a message to the people reading? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-enjoy-steven/469248/19 "2008-10-23T22:31:38Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > And of course, it _is_ only two short lines of text. Do we then say 3 lines are OK? How about 200? 2000? One MB I was on had serious issues because of extreme sig lenght. Surely you’re not this dumb. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-enjoy-steven/469248/20 "2008-10-23T22:32:26Z")
Huh? I never took it as snide at all. Even when he was being a sruoy yllufhguoht. Superfluous, yes. Rude, no. Yours in Christ, Green Bean [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-enjoy-steven/469248.md?page=2)