# Dear environmental activists: why do you look up to Vandana Shiva?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-environmental-activists-why-do-you-look-up-to-vandana-shiva/704179>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 9, 2014, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-environmental-activists-why-do-you-look-up-to-vandana-shiva/704179 "2014-11-09T20:43:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-environmental-activists-why-do-you-look-up-to-vandana-shiva/704179/41 "2014-11-11T19:53:47Z")

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Jack, I appreciate the information. My own is about two decades out of date, and it’s an issue I’m ambivalent about, so I’ll read more and post less on the subject.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2014, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-environmental-activists-why-do-you-look-up-to-vandana-shiva/704179/42 "2014-11-12T01:40:33Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Jack, I appreciate the information. My own is about two decades out of date, and it’s an issue I’m ambivalent about, so I’ll read more and post less on the subject.

Well, you’re no fun at all. :mad:🙂

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**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2014, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-environmental-activists-why-do-you-look-up-to-vandana-shiva/704179/43 "2014-11-12T09:42:01Z")

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I think it probably deserves a pit thread to itself, but I have heard from several lefty enlightened environmentalists that there are way too many people on earth and if forcing all agriculture to be organic or banning GMO/pesticides/synthetic fertilizer leads to people dieing in Africa or wherever well that will be good for the planet. They aren’t joking either, but they have an idea so insane it pales in comparison to anything the tea party members they hate have ever said.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2014, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-environmental-activists-why-do-you-look-up-to-vandana-shiva/704179/44 "2014-11-12T11:54:19Z")

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> [@grude](#):
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> I think it probably deserves a pit thread to itself, but I have heard from several lefty enlightened environmentalists that there are way too many people on earth and if forcing all agriculture to be organic or banning GMO/pesticides/synthetic fertilizer leads to people dieing in Africa or wherever well that will be good for the planet. They aren’t joking either, but they have an idea so insane it pales in comparison to anything the tea party members they hate have ever said.

Yeah, pretty much. I suppose it’s no coincidence that those people aren’t the ones who will suffer and starve for their bullshit.

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**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2014, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-environmental-activists-why-do-you-look-up-to-vandana-shiva/704179/45 "2014-11-12T13:26:32Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> and the “Green Revolution” hasn’t done jack for Africa yet,

It can hardly be said that any green revolution has been implemented. It is not the fault of the idea, but the lack of the implementation. Only now are things that resemble the asian revolution starting in a fashion seriously.

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**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2014, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-environmental-activists-why-do-you-look-up-to-vandana-shiva/704179/46 "2014-11-12T15:13:58Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> I’ll read more and post less on the subject.

You’re doing the internet wrong!

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2014, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-environmental-activists-why-do-you-look-up-to-vandana-shiva/704179/47 "2014-11-12T20:08:07Z")

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> [@Ruken](#):
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> You’re doing the internet wrong!

Thanks, I try!

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