# Dear Fucknugget: This is NOT A LIFESTYLE!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 25, 2002, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781 "2002-05-25T11:34:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2002, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/41 "2002-05-26T03:01:07Z")
Oh, I must have forgotten that sub text… **matt** , since **Venoma** is away doing something else and not paying attention to ME, will YOU be my new best friend[sub]with benefits[/sub]? Eat yer heart out, **Esprix** 😃 ---
**Author:** ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2002, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/42 "2002-05-26T03:01:29Z")
I once worked in a restaurant owned by a lesbian couple. For the first year I was the only male who worked there and I was the only straight person. A couple of the ladies were bi. Anyway, a couple of the Ladies did actively pursue straight women. The y called themselves the “wrecking crew”. One of the crew was _really_ bent on turning every woman she met. She was the only person I didn’t get along with too well because she kept trying to push the gay lifestyle on me. She got better after I pointed out to her that I wasn’t trying to convince her to try straight sex. But she definetly had an agenda. We would, after work, go out for a drink a couple times a week. Most of the time we would go to gay bars. I got hit on alot and most of the time the guys would listen when I said I was straight. A couple of shitheads kept pressing. I just ignored them. The point being is that there are assholes in every group that try to make others believe in what ever cause turns them on. Slee ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2002, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/43 "2002-05-26T03:12:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by andygirl \* > \*\*As per my orders from the homosexual cabal, I shall start aggressively flirting with and attempting to convert straight girls. > > \*\* _ **Woo Hoo!** _ It’s been a while since I was hit on by a real live lesbian! 😃 ::_waits patiently on chair_:: ---
**Author:** ![Freyr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/freyr/32/5763_2.png) [@Freyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freyr)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2002, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/44 "2002-05-26T03:30:17Z")
\*\*Guinastasia wrote: There’s probably more gay people in your family-you just don’t know it. Besides-who cares-it’s really none of anyone’s business. Seriously-why do people CARE so much? I mean, d’uh, unless you’re planning on dating the person, why does their orientation matter?\*\* Because _ahem_ he’s _family_ and I do care about him. If, as I suspect, he’s in the closet (even at the advanced age of 38) I want to let him know that I understand what he’s going thru (the whole coming out experience) and that I want to help him, if he desires that help. No, I’m not interested in dating him but if he’s gay man in need, I want to let him know that I’m available for help, if he wants it. I understand how he feels because I went thru it, myself. ---
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2002, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/45 "2002-05-26T04:11:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by sleestak \* > \*\*She was the only person I didn’t get along with too well because she kept trying to push the gay lifestyle on me. Slee \*\* Um, did you not read the freakin’ thread title? There IS NO SUCH THING as a gay lifestyle. Fuck you. I STG, if I have to monitor the entire MB and explain the obvious to drooling morons, I will. Fighting ingorance, indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Daowajan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Daowajan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daowajan)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2002, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/46 "2002-05-26T04:30:34Z")
Finish reading it? > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by sleestak \* > **The point being is that there are assholes in every group that try to make others believe in what ever cause turns them on.** So what if Slee used the phrase “gay lifestyle?” Here’s what the post is about. ---
**Author:** ![Sterra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8c91f0/32.png) [@Sterra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sterra)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2002, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/47 "2002-05-26T05:16:00Z")
> [@](#): > > I, and every other gay man, lesbian, **trans** , etc, DO NOT fucking RECRUIT! You really shouldn’t mention trans unless you actually are going to mention something about transgendered people. Though the idea of someone claiming transgendered people recruit is pretty funny:) ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2002, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/48 "2002-05-26T07:23:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Daowajan \* > \*\*Finish reading it? > > So what if Slee used the phrase “gay lifestyle?” Here’s what the post is about. \*\* It is an aspect of the thread, and it is SICKENING. There is no ONE gay lifestyle. You can’t even claim that there are any standards beyond desiring the same sex. Now… if there is a gay lifestyle, there must be a heterosexual one. Care to enlighten us to what that might entail? ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2002, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/49 "2002-05-26T07:26:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Sterra \* > \*\* > You really shouldn’t mention trans unless you actually are going to mention something about transgendered people. > > Though the idea of someone claiming transgendered people recruit is pretty funny:) \*\* And why shouldn’t I, pray tell? Transgendered men and women go through the same types of prejudice we do and MORE. They are stigmatized by idiots who think gender is fixed and is a constant. They are derided and abused by gay, straight, lesbian, and bi people who don’t choose to remove their heads from their asses and realize that EVERYONE deserves an equal right to live in peace without fear. So, if this fulfills some bizarre quota of explanation to you, FW, can we return to the subject at hand? ---
**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2002, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/50 "2002-05-26T07:31:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \* > \*\*There’s probably more gay people in your family-you just don’t know it. > > Besides-who cares-it’s really none of anyone’s business.\*\* Circling back to **Guin’s** comment…precisely. _Civil_ people refuse to listen on the basis that it’s none of their civic business. Most people emphatically do NOT want their sexuality made public, much less a matter of fascinated public scrutiny. **What consenting adults do in their private lives is absolutely their business alone.** Civilized people don’t pry into other peoples’ bedrooms or psyches. Period. I croggle and despair that loudly self-touted “conservatives”–No Government Inteference!–are at the forefront of theocractic onslaught. (“The Gummit is ME! And my church! And we gonna make all you sinners _hurt_!”) Courage matters. Character matters. Honor matters. Humor, laughter, reserve, wildly individual voices matter. Sweaty, personal bedroom details don’t. Civic versus private. Veb ---
**Author:** ![Sterra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8c91f0/32.png) [@Sterra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sterra)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2002, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/51 "2002-05-26T09:08:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Hastur \* > \*\* > And why shouldn’t I, pray tell? > > Transgendered men and women go through the same types of prejudice we do and MORE. \*\* Actually the prejudices are different. For example nothing in your op would really relate to transgendered people. Most of what transgendered people face is the idea that being transgendered has anything to do with sex. ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2002, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/52 "2002-05-26T10:44:02Z")
And my “lifestyle” doesn’t have to do with sex either. It does have to do with who I love, not how I love them. My OP wouldn’t have to do with transsexuals? How so? ---
**Author:** ![Venoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c4cdca/32.png) [@Venoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Venoma)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2002, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/53 "2002-05-26T10:57:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by iampunha \* > \*\*Will you be my new best friend?🙂 \*\* Oh dear, I’m late. Sure thing sweetie… when **matt** ’s done with you 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2002, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/54 "2002-05-26T11:11:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Freyr \* > \*\*\*\*Guinastasia wrote: > > There’s probably more gay people in your family-you just don’t know it. > > Besides-who cares-it’s really none of anyone’s business. > > Seriously-why do people CARE so much? I mean, d’uh, unless you’re planning on dating the person, why does their orientation matter?\*\* > > Because _ahem_ he’s _family_ and I do care about him. If, as I suspect, he’s in the closet (even at the advanced age of 38) I want to let him know that I understand what he’s going thru (the whole coming out experience) and that I want to help him, if he desires that help. > > No, I’m not interested in dating him but if he’s gay man in need, I want to let him know that I’m available for help, if he wants it. I understand how he feels because I went thru it, myself. \*\* Oh, I know what you’re saying. I guess I’m just saying, yes, by all means help him. But at the same time, I never understand why people flip out when they hear about people who are gay. Oh my god-that person’s gay! So what? I mean, why are people so concerned? Yes, gay rights and all, I understand. I’m talking about homophobes, mostly. I mean, really-why do they even worry about it in the first place? ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2002, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/55 "2002-05-26T12:39:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by iampunha \* > **matt** , since **Venoma** is away doing something else and not paying attention to ME, will YOU be my new best friend[sub]with benefits[/sub]? Oooooooooooo! _caroms off a few walls_ ---
**Author:** ![Potter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Potter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Potter)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2002, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/56 "2002-05-26T14:27:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Hastur \* > \*\*There is no ONE gay lifestyle. \*\* You didn’t get the memo? Darnit, we’d hoped everyone was up to speed by now. Only last year, the _Quorom for Unilateral Enlisting of the Enemy into Nancydom_’s 12th annual conference minutes clearly stated the ‘new’ gay agenda, and the resulting standardised lifestyle. If you’re not - “Waking in your antique late C19th French Henri II style paint and gilt framed scroll end upholstered bed (complete with hemstitch detailing and 590 threads per square inch soft bedding); weekending in your Dordogne C16th century converted barn whilst lounging respendantly rough-trade in your John Bartlett’s and being gently fanned by a minimum of 3 oiled boys; noisily knocking a few out in your gym’s handtiled Moroccan Shower Suite with the built-but-bottom weight trainer during your lunch hour and still finding time for a pedicure and eyebrow-waxing; seducing at _the very least_ 7 of your collegues during afterwork cocktails with promises of mindblowing oral sex [sub](see footnote 3375 and further addendum for details)[/sub]; purchasing Sparkle Barbie for your nephew’s 5th birthday (don’t forget to include the extra “accessories” pack);” \ - then you’re simply not doing it right and our leathermen will be visiting shortly in order to bring you up to meet our criteria asap. Remember, we’re working to a schedule, and you’re playing for the team here! Now, go to it, and make sure you don’t forget to litter any conversation with constant usage of ‘faboo’: The committee was out on this one for awhile, but although many felt it was outdated, a majority vote decided that a return to Post-Modernist/Ironic/Collonialist rhetoric would be a welcome and forward-thinking addition to our agenda at large. Hope that’s cleared up a few points. Don’t forget to check your handbook for any issues you’re still unclear on, and the helpline 1-800-HELOSAILOR is continually manned 24/7 in case of emergency. ---
**Author:** ![Sterra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8c91f0/32.png) [@Sterra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sterra)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2002, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/57 "2002-05-26T18:05:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Hastur \* > \*\*And my “lifestyle” doesn’t have to do with sex either. It does have to do with who I love, not how I love them. > > My OP wouldn’t have to do with transsexuals? How so? \*\* Well, have you ever heard of a transexual lifestyle or the idea that transgendered people recruit? Or even an organization that converted transgendered people? It just doesen’t apply. ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2002, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/58 "2002-05-26T18:57:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Sterra \* > \*\* > Well, have you ever heard of a transexual lifestyle or the idea that transgendered people recruit? Or even an organization that converted transgendered people? It just doesen’t apply. \*\* Yes, actually I _have_. It does apply. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2002, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/59 "2002-05-26T19:05:23Z")
Speaking of transgender and how obvious it is, I have to say, for the 2nd time, I saw this woman come into Kmart-it is obviously a man in drag. No offense to this person-more power to him/her. (sorry, I don’t know if he or she is simply a transvestite or transexual). I’m just saying it can be QUITE obvious sometimes. Although his/her fashion sense leaves much to be desired… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Tyrrell\_McAllister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tyrrell_mcallister/32/16772_2.png) [@Tyrrell\_McAllister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tyrrell_McAllister)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2002, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/60 "2002-05-26T20:03:49Z")
So far as I can see, no one in this thread has yet presented [this](http://www.theonion.com/onion3326/homosexualrecruit.html) damning evidence. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781.md?page=4)