# Dear Fucknugget: This is NOT A LIFESTYLE!!!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 25, 2002, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781 "2002-05-25T11:34:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2002, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/141 "2002-06-02T22:16:11Z")

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> \*Originally posted by 'Uigi \*  
> \*\*Maybe it should. 15+hours and no follow-ups sounds like a certifiably dead monkey.
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> “Nurse, check for brain wave activity…None? Damn, guess it’s a goner.” \*\*

Just because you recognize your lack of brain activity does not mean it applies to any thread you post in.

You have proven my OP true. There are many who wish to see our lives as a lifestyle. They wish to put us in a box, want our lives to be shrouded in secrecy for their comfort, and treat us as if who we sleep with is the sum total of our lives.

We are often marginalized and maligned as well as being misunderstood.

Just because you have an agenda does not mean the problem does not exist and that the problem will just go away.

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**Author:** ![pizzabrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@pizzabrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pizzabrat)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2002, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/142 "2002-06-02T22:53:11Z")

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Are you automatically Log Cabin if you’re gay and vote Republican?

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**Author:** ![Castaldi\_of\_the\_Mazzharat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@Castaldi\_of\_the\_Mazzharat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Castaldi_of_the_Mazzharat)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2002, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/143 "2002-06-02T23:21:07Z")

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> \*Originally posted by pizzabrat \*  
> \*\*Are you automatically Log Cabin if you’re gay and vote Republican? \*\*

I think that the concept that you are ‘automatically’ something if something else is what fuels the fire that there is a ‘gay lifestyle.’ So I’d say no.

I think that saying that would be like saying ‘if you are an interior decorator you are automatically gay.’

_shrugs_ Just my opinion.

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2002, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/144 "2002-06-03T00:57:15Z")

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No, the Log Cabin Club is an actual organization - you have to join and all that.

Esprix

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**Author:** ![Dr.Lao](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@Dr.Lao](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Lao)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2002, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/145 "2002-06-03T01:33:19Z")

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I’d just like to point out that **jayjay** got in two kick ass zingers right in a row that made me laugh out loud. Thank you.

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**Author:** ![Hosayf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/2acd7d/32.png) [@Hosayf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hosayf)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2002, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/146 "2002-06-03T03:21:33Z")

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What really bugs me is shit like this . I cannot believe that this is a website for any church. I’ve always thought that Christianity was about love, but by all means correct me if I’m mistaken. I don’t get why people even really care if other people are gay. IMHO what you do in the privacy of your home is your business and no one elses.

Also I heard this by word-of-mouth a while ago: There are instances where men who had abusive mothers think they’re gay since they developed such a hatred towards their mothers who tend to be the first woman most males know. It sounds some-what plausible, but I doubt it’s as widespread as the person who told me (my mother BTW) claim it is. Any knowledge, clarifications, cites on this? If I remember I’ll ask my mom about it tomorrow.

As for the life-style thing: I remember being too young to give a shit when my cousin came out and I never gave it much thought until I went to a public school in fifth grade where there was much gay-bashing. I still remember people thinking I was gay and ostricizing me for a while after I said something like “I don’t think all male ballet dancers are gay, and even if they are I have nothing against them.” I almost started to buy into the crap about gays being radically different until that day I went Christmas shopping with my much older gay cousin and, someone cut him off. I beleive his exact words were: “Get the fuck out of my way you dumb asshole!” I thought it was really pretty funny, and it really proved to me not only that gay people from Pittsburg act alot like normal people from Pittsburg, but also that my dad’s not the only one who talks like that in the car.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2002, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/147 "2002-06-03T07:02:20Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Dr. Lao \*  
> \*\*I’d just like to point out that jayjay got in two kick ass zingers right in a row that made me laugh out loud. Thank you. \*\*

Oh, no! Thank YOU!

I’m-a gonna frame this post and hang it on my wall. 😃

jayjay

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2002, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/148 "2002-06-03T07:22:58Z")

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> \*Originally posted by 'Uigi \*  
> \*\*Hastur,
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> So, you’re a fag. Get over it and shut your pie hole. You are a touchy thing. \*\*

**’Uigi** , don’t use hate speech. This is an official warning.

To everyone else: Sorry, I could NOT get this thread to open for me.

Lynn  
For the Straight Dope

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**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2002, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/149 "2002-06-04T05:15:42Z")

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Now… are we going to continue this discussion?

Remember: not continuing means the terrorists win.

😃

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**Author:** ![KellyM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/57b2e6/32.png) [@KellyM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KellyM)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2002, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/150 "2002-06-04T20:57:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Sterra \*  
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> Well, have you ever heard of a transexual lifestyle or the idea that transgendered people recruit? Or even an organization that converted transgendered people? It just doesen’t apply. \*\*

There are, in fact, a number of “transsexual” and “transgender” lifestyles out there, and some of them actually do recruit. There are a number of drag theatre groups out there that work the road. Being a member of one of these groups would qualify as a lifestyle, and they recruit. “It’s not a job, it’s an adventure!”

And if you’ve ever had the misfortune of having to go to a TG support group, you’ll know all about the transsexual agenda. “Oooh, can we give you a makeover!” “Why didn’t you dress?” “Are you going to get the chop?” (See also [http://venusenvy.keenspace.com](http://venusenvy.keenspace.com).) You can also find good examples of this crap on soc.support.transgendered and in most of the on-line support groups for transsexuals.

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**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2002, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/151 "2002-06-04T21:25:50Z")

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Kelly:

Big hugs to you. Support groups seem to bite in general.

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2002, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/152 "2002-06-04T21:57:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by KellyM \*  
> \*\*And if you’ve ever had the misfortune of having to go to a TG support group, you’ll know all about the transsexual agenda. “Oooh, can we give you a makeover!” \*\*

At least you’ve kept your sense of humour.

And I’d like to invite you to my Gread Debates [thread, GLBT: Why the T?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=117708)

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**Author:** ![Hamish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Hamish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamish)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2002, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/153 "2002-06-05T02:02:29Z")

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Gosh, I’m entering this thread late. I need to spend more time in the Pit ☹

Today, my gay lifestyle included renting a video and cleaning the kitchen. I also gaily answered some emails, gaily edited 15 pages on the book I’m working on, and right now I’m gaily listening to some music. I also went for a gay walk. This evening, I plan to gaily meditate.

And I think **Doc Cathode** ’s Cthulu angle should not be ruled out. The _Shadow Over Innsmouth_ is a great “coming out” story. The reason no one’s ever successfully summoned Cthulu is because you have karaoke the ritual in the Necronomicon to the tune of “It’s Raining Men” in order for it to work.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2002, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/154 "2002-06-05T03:28:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Hamish \*  
> \*\*The reason no one’s ever successfully summoned Cthulu is because you have karaoke the ritual in the Necronomicon to the tune of “It’s Raining Men” in order for it to work. \*\*

_imagines the Weather Girls and Geri Halliwell choking on their own tongues_

Somehow the latter is much more satisfying than the former… 😃

jayjay

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**Author:** ![Hamish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Hamish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamish)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2002, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/155 "2002-06-05T03:43:44Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jayjay \*  
> \*\*_imagines the Weather Girls and Geri Halliwell choking on their own tongues_
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> Somehow the latter is much more satisfying than the former… 😃  
> \*\*

As Cthulu-spawn, Geri Halliwell would _not_ choke on her own tongue. She, in fact, has no tongue, which is immediately obvious to anyone who’s heard her sing.

She has served the Great _Old_ Ones for many years. In fact, soon she will reveal her true identity…

… Old Spice

::d&r::

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2002, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/156 "2002-06-05T04:56:26Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Hamish \*  
> \*\*She has served the Great _Old_ Ones for many years. In fact, soon she will reveal her true identity…
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> … Old Spice
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> ::d&r:: \*\*

Augh!

_bribes **matt\_mcl** to administer suitable punishment, as the man on the spot_

jayjay

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2002, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-fucknugget-this-is-not-a-lifestyle/110781/157 "2002-06-05T06:38:02Z")

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> Support groups seem to bite in general.

Actually, I found support groups incredibly useful when I was coming out. Maybe we just have good ones in Montreal or something.

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