# Dear God, thank you for not electing Sarah Palin

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-god-thank-you-for-not-electing-sarah-palin/471399>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 6, 2008, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-god-thank-you-for-not-electing-sarah-palin/471399 "2008-11-06T03:01:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-god-thank-you-for-not-electing-sarah-palin/471399/141 "2008-11-12T00:53:34Z")

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> [@DudleyGarrett](#):
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> \*\* Nailin’ Palin  
> \*\*

Keeping their socks on in those movies is gross enough, but those _glasses…_

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-god-thank-you-for-not-electing-sarah-palin/471399/142 "2008-11-12T03:43:04Z")

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Squabbling about whether each and every item brought up about her is true or not misses the point. She showed herself provincial and stupid enough for all stories to be believable. Some people thought she was qualified to be president. What does that say about them? She is a joke.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-god-thank-you-for-not-electing-sarah-palin/471399/143 "2008-11-12T05:28:47Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Some people thought she was qualified to be president. What does that say about them? She is a joke.

Stupid people need representation too, you know.

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**Author:** ![geniios](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9d8465/32.png) [@geniios](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/geniios)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-god-thank-you-for-not-electing-sarah-palin/471399/144 "2008-11-12T05:36:27Z")

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And yours would be diarrhea of the fingertips?

> [@Shayna](#):
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> As my father would say, she has diarrhea of the mouth.

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**Author:** ![Nicolas\_Bourbaki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecc23a/32.png) [@Nicolas\_Bourbaki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nicolas_Bourbaki)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-god-thank-you-for-not-electing-sarah-palin/471399/145 "2008-11-12T07:19:43Z")

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> [@DudleyGarrett](#):
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> A co-worker told me there’s a new porn flick out: \*\* Nailin’ Palin  
> \*\*  
> I laughed out loud.

[To anyone who may be curious.](http://www.236.com/feed/2008/10/25/wtsfw_way_too_safe_for_work_na_9801.php)

Favorite quote:  
“It’s time to drill, baby, drill. What are you waiting for, Congressional approval?”

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**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-god-thank-you-for-not-electing-sarah-palin/471399/146 "2008-11-12T12:33:26Z")

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> [@geniios](#):
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> And yours would be diarrhea of the fingertips?

Do you live in some bizarro world where people read from bottom to top?

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-god-thank-you-for-not-electing-sarah-palin/471399/147 "2008-11-12T13:58:01Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Now Palin says god will show her the way to the white house. God is not good.

Only if God is in her SatNav.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-god-thank-you-for-not-electing-sarah-palin/471399/148 "2008-11-12T17:21:43Z")

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> [@Punoqllads](#):
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> You mean [Martin Eisenstadt](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/10/martin-eisenstadt-non-exi_n_142785.html)? If he’s a hoaxer, why do you believe him when he says he was the source?
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> For what it’s worth, I have no idea whether the Palin-on-Africa story is true or not. What’s interesting to me is that Faux News is spreading the allegation.

He is a hoaxer, and certainly he didn’t hear any such comments when he was inbreifings with Palin- as he was never a staffer and never in any briefings. But Cameron is being rather coy about this and some of the statements have been proven false (the “coming to the door in the towel”), this it seems quite possible Eisenstadt also scammed Cameron.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-god-thank-you-for-not-electing-sarah-palin/471399/149 "2008-11-12T17:41:13Z")

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> [@TwistofFate](#):
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> Only if God is in her SatNav.

Well, it does provide direction from the heavens in a disembodied voice…

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-god-thank-you-for-not-electing-sarah-palin/471399/150 "2008-11-12T18:37:55Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> He is a hoaxer, and certainly he didn’t hear any such comments when he was inbreifings with Palin- as he was never a staffer and never in any briefings. But Cameron is being rather coy about this and some of the statements have been proven false (the “coming to the door in the towel”), this it seems quite possible Eisenstadt also scammed Cameron.

If by “quite possible” you mean “highly improbable” then I agree. Otherwise, not so much. Let’s review:

Cameron is known to have many contacts inside the Republican party.  
Cameron is likely to have contacts within the McCain campaign.  
Fox News, the organization Cameron works for, is likely to fire workers who make shit up, if only for the sake of public relations.  
It is standard journalistic practice to require multiple sources before running a story.  
Cameron says that he had multiple sources on the Africa story.  
The Huffington Post, a left-leaning organization, says its sources confirm that Cameron’s sources are not Eisenstadt.  
Eisenstadt says he was Cameron’s source on the Africa story.  
No one else says that he was Cameron’s source on the Africa story.  
Eisenstadt is known for making shit up.

Now, which of the following do you think is more likely:

Eisenstadt made up the Africa story and was one of Cameron’s sources despite not actually working for the McCain campaign and none of Cameron’s sources ever clued him in that Eisenstadt didn’t work for McCain and Cameron decided to run with the story with only Eisenstadt as the source on the story.

or

Eisenstadt is lying when he says he was the source of the Africa story.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-god-thank-you-for-not-electing-sarah-palin/471399/151 "2008-11-12T18:54:49Z")

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> [@Punoqllads](#):
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> If by “quite possible” you mean “highly improbable” then I agree. Otherwise, not so much. Let’s review:
> 
> Cameron is known to have many contacts inside the Republican party.  
> Cameron is likely to have contacts within the McCain campaign.  
> Fox News, the organization Cameron works for, is likely to fire workers who make shit up, if only for the sake of public relations.  
> It is standard journalistic practice to require multiple sources before running a story.  
> Cameron says that he had multiple sources on the Africa story.  
> The Huffington Post, a left-leaning organization, says its sources confirm that Cameron’s sources are not Eisenstadt.  
> Eisenstadt says he was Cameron’s source on the Africa story.  
> No one else says that he was Cameron’s source on the Africa story.  
> Eisenstadt is known for making shit up.
> 
> Now, which of the following do you think is more likely:
> 
> Eisenstadt made up the Africa story and was one of Cameron’s sources despite not actually working for the McCain campaign and none of Cameron’s sources ever clued him in that Eisenstadt didn’t work for McCain and Cameron decided to run with the story with only Eisenstadt as the source on the story.
> 
> or
> 
> Eisenstadt is lying when he says he was the source of the Africa story.

If Cameron was hoaxed then he didn’t make shit up.

Had Cameron said Eisenstadt was not his source?

Nor have I seen anything where Cameron said he had multiple sources.

Generally around here, Fox is hardly noted for having high Journalistic integrity.:dubious: Indeed, they have been accused here many times of “making shit up” for all intents and purposes.

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**Author:** ![PhiloVance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@PhiloVance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhiloVance)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-god-thank-you-for-not-electing-sarah-palin/471399/152 "2008-11-12T19:30:09Z")

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If Sarah Palin is that unimportant and stupid, why does this thread go for 4 pages?

She either has impressed you or you’re scared shitless.

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-god-thank-you-for-not-electing-sarah-palin/471399/153 "2008-11-12T19:31:48Z")

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> [@PhiloVance](#):
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> If Sarah Palin is that unimportant and stupid, why does this thread go for 4 pages?
> 
> She either has impressed you or you’re scared shitless.

She has not impressed me. But it does scare me that someone like her even got that close to the White House, without just being on a tour.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-god-thank-you-for-not-electing-sarah-palin/471399/154 "2008-11-12T19:32:21Z")

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> [@PhiloVance](#):
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> If Sarah Palin is that unimportant and stupid, why does this thread go for 4 pages?
> 
> She either has impressed you or you’re scared shitless.

Please, please, please spread this meme in your right-wing community. Liberals are deeply afraid of Palin, so she is the best choice in 2012. _Please_.

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**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-god-thank-you-for-not-electing-sarah-palin/471399/155 "2008-11-12T19:38:00Z")

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It’s fair to say that she has impressed me shitless.

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**Author:** ![spinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@spinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spinky)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-god-thank-you-for-not-electing-sarah-palin/471399/156 "2008-11-12T20:00:02Z")

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For lack of a better thread to throw this clip in… Sarah Palin manages to sound dumb as a post in another interview. The first 90 seconds of this are absolutely cringe-inducing.

[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/12/palin-im-comfortable-with\_n\_143205.html](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/12/palin-im-comfortable-with_n_143205.html)  
(linked to huffingtonpost because that’s the only place I can find this clip that doesn’t require you to click to get a popup window. MSNBC, your sites suck.)

Here’s a transcript:

> [@](#):
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> [Matt asks her if seeing the clips from her previous interview hurt her confidence]  
> **Palin** : No, no. Because uh, you know I, I’m sure that some of my impatience showed through in that uh, in that interview. um, I think it also showed, though, that certainly as a washington outsider and as somebody not um, not uh, one to just uh, I guess kinda play even the, the campaigning media game that is played and and just repeating perhaps memorized lines in a in an interview. That’s not me, I–.
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> **Lauer** : But you didn’t think the interview was unfair, I mean the questions were fairly straightforward, weren’t they?
> 
> **Palin** : Sure, yeah, but you know questions about, well, you know, “what do you read up there in Alaska?” To me that was ki–, a little bit annoying because I’m like "what do you mean what do I read in Alaska, I read the same things that you guys read in New York, and uh, there in LA and in uh,  
> in Washington state, what do you mean what do I read up there? But anyway, just, just some annoyance that I’m sure showed through and uh, you know perhaps um, that, that annoyance that showed through would have led some to be annoyed with me watching the interview and \<faint turkey noises\>.

Here, of course, is the exact wording of Katie Couric’s question which Sarah Palin seems to think maligns Alaska:  
“When it comes to establishing your world view, I was curious what newspapers and magazines did you regularly read before you were tapped for this, to stay informed and to understand the world?” followed up with, “What ones specifically. I’m curious that you…” and “Can you name a few?”

I’m so very glad she was not elected.

As to this question:

> [@PhiloVance](#):
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> If Sarah Palin is that unimportant and stupid, why does this thread go for 4 pages?
> 
> She either has impressed you or you’re scared shitless.

I’ll own up to it: I’m scared of her. I’m scared and angered that a ticket with her on it got so much of the popular vote. Now, before you go getting smug about what a formidable opponent she must be if we’re scared of her, I’d also like to point out that I’d be scared of a toddler with a gun for the exact same reasons. It’s not something to aspire to.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-god-thank-you-for-not-electing-sarah-palin/471399/157 "2008-11-12T20:26:19Z")

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> [@ntucker](#):
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> I’ll own up to it: I’m scared of her. I’m scared and angered that a ticket with her on it got so much of the popular vote. Now, before you go getting smug about what a formidable opponent she must be if we’re scared of her, I’d also like to point out that I’d be scared of a toddler with a gun for the exact same reasons. It’s not something to aspire to.

Toddler/Gun '12!

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-god-thank-you-for-not-electing-sarah-palin/471399/158 "2008-11-12T20:33:58Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> If Cameron was hoaxed then he didn’t make shit up.
> 
> Had Cameron said Eisenstadt was not his source?
> 
> Nor have I seen anything where Cameron said he had multiple sources.
> 
> Generally around here, Fox is hardly noted for having high Journalistic integrity.:dubious: Indeed, they have been accused here many times of “making shit up” for all intents and purposes.

Fine. That leaves:  
Cameron is known to have many contacts inside the Republican party.  
Cameron is likely to have contacts within the McCain campaign.  
It is standard journalistic practice to require multiple sources before running a story.  
The Huffington Post, a left-leaning organization, says its sources confirm that Cameron’s sources are not Eisenstadt.  
Eisenstadt says he was Cameron’s source on the Africa story.  
No one else says that he [Eisenstadt] was Cameron’s source on the Africa story.  
Eisenstadt is known for making shit up.

And I say, though Fox is willing to spin news items, they don’t make shit up. Take, for instance, the towel incident. Palin did greet the McCain advisers covered up in just a towel. The way it was worded made people think that she opened the door for them while wearing just a towel. It appears that they had already been let in, and she peeked in and greeted them while only wearing a towel, and told them she would be ready soon. And I don’t think they’d fire a proven liar due to their high ethical standard. I think they’d fire a proven liar to avoid a public relations firestorm.

And you still haven’t answered my question. Which of the following two statement are more likely to be true:

Eisenstadt made up the Africa story and was one of Cameron’s [del]sources[/del] contacts despite not actually working for the McCain campaign and none of Cameron’s [del]sources[/del] contacts ever clued him in that Eisenstadt didn’t work for McCain and Cameron decided to run with the story with only Eisenstadt as the source on the story.

or

Eisenstadt is lying when he says he was the source of the Africa story.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-god-thank-you-for-not-electing-sarah-palin/471399/159 "2008-11-12T21:02:09Z")

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All of a sudden, when Fox News runs a story you like, it’s now a model of Journalistic Integrity.:dubious:

As for the Towel “incident”

> **[McCain advisers defend Palin](https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/nov/10/mccain-advisers-defend-palin/)**
>
> Top advisers and aides to John McCain’s campaign are going on the record to defend Sarah Palin from the barrage of anonymous accusations, particularly since the election.

"\*Steve Schmidt, the campaign’s chief strategist, defended Mrs. Palin in an e-mail exchange with The Times concerning, among other articles, a Newsweek report that at the Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minn., Mrs. Palin had greeted Mr. Schmidt and Mr. Salter in her hotel room while “wearing nothing but a towel, with another [towel] on her wet hair.”

“The towel story categorically is not true,” Mr. Schmidt told The Times in the course of telephone and e-mail exchanges over the weekend. "\*

Thus the towel story is _made up shit._

Then as for NAFTA "• \*Did she not know that NAFTA was an agreement among the U.S., Mexico and Canada?

“Answer to all of this is no, except she was victim of hoax perpetrated by Canadian talk radio re Sarkozy,” Mr. Black said. “Even then, she said nothing wrong in the call. We think she did an excellent job and added a lot to the ticket. ‘We’ includes John McCain.” \*

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-god-thank-you-for-not-electing-sarah-palin/471399/160 "2008-11-12T21:05:36Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> All of a sudden, when Fox News runs a story you like, it’s now a model of Journalistic Integrity.:dubious:

You have a very simplistic understanding of the criticism of Fox News if you don’t see why this particular story is more credible coming from them than from someone else.

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