# Dear harveyc: would you kindly STFU?  Thanks.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 10, 2007, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-harveyc-would-you-kindly-stfu-thanks/387357 "2007-01-10T01:49:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-harveyc-would-you-kindly-stfu-thanks/387357/1 "2007-01-10T01:49:08Z")

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I mean, I’m barely paying attention to [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=403118), and I still find you extremely annoying.

You’re certainly not _listening_ to what’s being said to you, or at least your responses don’t reflect it. I’m not sure why the other posters in the thread continue to try to argue with you, because it’s a bit like trying to argue with a brick wall with embedded speakers playing a taped loop.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-harveyc-would-you-kindly-stfu-thanks/387357/2 "2007-01-10T01:53:24Z")

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Yeh, what’s left to say? Waste of time engaging that idiot any further, was obviously a waste of time after its third or fourth response. I’d rather argue with the brick wall. At least you could take a tire iron to it when you got fed up.

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-harveyc-would-you-kindly-stfu-thanks/387357/3 "2007-01-10T01:56:07Z")

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I still haven’t figured this guy out. Is he a closet right winger taking pot shots at the Dems for not having fixed all the problems of the country in 5 days, or a left wing nut ball taking pot shots at the Dems because they haven’t deposed Bush et al yet, brought the troops home and make the country safe for our new socialist masters?

I have to agree with RT though…the guy seems immune to arguement and simply knows what he knows. I really liked how he deflected calls for cites of his position by asking those who requested said cites for cites of their own first. 😛

-XT

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-harveyc-would-you-kindly-stfu-thanks/387357/4 "2007-01-10T02:06:55Z")

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[QUOTE=xtisme]  
I still haven’t figured this guy out. Is he a closet right winger taking pot shots at the Dems for not having fixed all the problems of the country in 5 days, or a left wing nut ball taking pot shots at the Dems because they haven’t deposed Bush et al yet, brought the troops home and make the country safe for our new socialist masters?  
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As I said in the original thread, I think he’s a stealth right winger trying to smear the Dems for playing politics with the war. My evidence?

- He made reference to the “stab in the back” explanation for losing Vietnam, which is usually a far-right meme.

- He also at one point said to another poster "There you go again … " without apparent sarcasm. I can’t see a rabid left-winger quoting Reagan like that without doing it tongue in cheek.

- Finally … I spend a lot of time on rabid left-wing political blogs and I’m not reading anything like this there. Mostly they’re pleased that the Democrats are in power and DOING SOMETHING in the first 100 hours. Even the rabid firebreathers all know that it’s going to be a long slog to force Bush to end the war.

He may not be a troll, but I certainly don’t think he’s arguing in good faith.[ul]  
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**Author:** ![Fritz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c57346/32.png) [@Fritz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fritz)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-harveyc-would-you-kindly-stfu-thanks/387357/5 "2007-01-10T02:30:46Z")

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I can’t find it because I don’t think there is a good search function, but a week or so ago, a troll showed up on the Think Progress board (one of many trolls) and had a style very much like harveyc: beating up Dems for slow action - a day or two after the Dems took power.

I suspect it’s the same person.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-harveyc-would-you-kindly-stfu-thanks/387357/6 "2007-01-10T02:48:32Z")

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[QUOTE=xtisme]  
I still haven’t figured this guy out. Is he a closet right winger taking pot shots at the Dems for not having fixed all the problems of the country in 5 days, or a left wing nut ball taking pot shots at the Dems because they haven’t deposed Bush et al yet, brought the troops home and make the country safe for our new socialist masters?  
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And then there’s the question, “does it matter?” He’s an embarrassment to whatever side of the political spectrum he’s on, if he’s on any - unless he’s part of the Stubborn Moron Party, in which case he should be Secretary for Redundancy.

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**Author:** ![Fritz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c57346/32.png) [@Fritz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fritz)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-harveyc-would-you-kindly-stfu-thanks/387357/7 "2007-01-10T02:53:47Z")

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[QUOTE=Marley23]  
And then there’s the question, “does it matter?” He’s an embarrassment to whatever side of the political spectrum he’s on, if he’s on any - unless he’s part of the Stubborn Moron Party, in which case he should be Secretary for Redundancy.  
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That’s Secretary of the Department of Redundancy Department 🙂

…and you’re right - what he says seem to be a tape loop, and he’s got is fingers jammed into his ears up to his knuckles.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-harveyc-would-you-kindly-stfu-thanks/387357/8 "2007-01-10T03:09:42Z")

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Lefty or Righty, the guy is an idiot. If I had to guess, though, I’d say “righty”.

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**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-harveyc-would-you-kindly-stfu-thanks/387357/9 "2007-01-10T03:23:23Z")

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[QUOTE=John Mace]  
Lefty or Righty, the guy is an idiot. If I had to guess, though, I’d say “righty”.  
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When in doubt, that’s the way to lean. 😃

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-harveyc-would-you-kindly-stfu-thanks/387357/10 "2007-01-10T03:25:42Z")

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Whatever his inclinations, he gives troglodytes a bad name.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-harveyc-would-you-kindly-stfu-thanks/387357/11 "2007-01-10T03:54:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Fritz]  
That’s Secretary of the Department of Redundancy Department 🙂

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Actually, it’s _Co_-Secretary of the Department of Redundancy Department.

But the other guy does all the work.

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**Author:** ![Fritz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c57346/32.png) [@Fritz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fritz)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-harveyc-would-you-kindly-stfu-thanks/387357/12 "2007-01-10T04:00:08Z")

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[QUOTE=Miller]  
Actually, it’s _Co_-Secretary of the Department of Redundancy Department.

But the other guy does all the work.  
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😛

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-harveyc-would-you-kindly-stfu-thanks/387357/13 "2007-01-10T04:26:33Z")

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In [the very first post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8128448&postcount=1) of the thread in question, he uses the term “Democrat Congress” (which is definitely a Republican-favored usage) _twice_. He’s no lefty…and that leaves the other option.

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-harveyc-would-you-kindly-stfu-thanks/387357/14 "2007-01-10T04:30:27Z")

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I’ll take ya’ll word for it then. 🙂 I was confused, but then, thats why I come to this board…to become unconfused. Somewhat of course. 😛

As Marley23 said earlier, it probably doesn’t matter…the guy is either a troll or he’s so dense and set in his own convictions that its pointless to debate with him, as he’s immune to arguement and just keeps saying the same things over and over again…just in new and uninteresting ways. He reminds me somewhat of Gonzomax, just with a better grasp or punctuation, spelling and without all the annoying drive by links. Same block headed immunity to arguement though, same annoying way of saying the same things over and over again, regardless of the points made by other posters.

-XT

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**Author:** ![Auntbeast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Auntbeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Auntbeast)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-harveyc-would-you-kindly-stfu-thanks/387357/15 "2007-01-10T05:07:11Z")

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I clicked the linked thread and was bored before I finished the first sentence. Browsing the rest of the op didn’t up the ante.

Then again, with all the trolling lately, I’m pretty leery of such threads by guests.

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**Author:** ![lowbrass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dc4da7/32.png) [@lowbrass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lowbrass)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-harveyc-would-you-kindly-stfu-thanks/387357/16 "2007-01-10T05:51:28Z")

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I don’t know; it’s kind of fun.

“Why don’t they cut the funding like they promised?”

“They didn’t promise to cut the funding”

“If they cut the funding, Bush will have to pull out”

“That won’t work”

“Yes it will, they did it for Vietnam”

"No they didn’t

“They should cut the funding”

“That wouldn’t work”

“They should cut the funding like they did in Vietnam”

“That wouldn’t work, and they didn’t do that in Vietnam”

“Why don’t they cut the funding like they promised to?”

It’s kind of like being on a really crappy merry-go-round.

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-harveyc-would-you-kindly-stfu-thanks/387357/17 "2007-01-10T06:19:27Z")

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Is it me, or is there a recent influx of brick-headed righties to the SDMB lately? Between **harveyc’s** contribution, **blondebear’s** [“I dare you union supporters to endorse vandalism”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=403169) thread, **Don26’s** [“Saddam was an SOB and that justified the Iraq war”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=403181) thread, and **magellan01’s** [“Illegal immigrants ARE TOO evil!”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=403251) thread, I feel like we’re suddenly drowning in Freeper refugees.

Or is this simply fallout from Keith Ellison’s use of the Koran? 😉

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-harveyc-would-you-kindly-stfu-thanks/387357/18 "2007-01-10T06:55:49Z")

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Every single one of his posts has been to that one thread.

How does this guy rate a pitting? His influence on the SDMB is practically nil.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-harveyc-would-you-kindly-stfu-thanks/387357/19 "2007-01-10T07:26:20Z")

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He’s a uniter, not a divider. Every one in that thread, left or right, thinks he’s a moron. That’s quite an accomplishment.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-harveyc-would-you-kindly-stfu-thanks/387357/20 "2007-01-10T07:32:03Z")

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:eek:

Just, please, just so long as he doesn’t get to be a decider around here!

:eek:

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