# Dear Hillary

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-hillary/728939>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [August 26, 2015, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-hillary/728939 "2015-08-26T12:39:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bimmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/db5fbb/32.png) [@Bimmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bimmer)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-hillary/728939/1 "2015-08-26T12:39:50Z")

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By Michael Goodwin

Dear Hillary,  
It’s too bad you didn’t have time to talk last night, or the night before. I was miffed when Huma first texted to say you were unavailable, whatever that means. When she did it again last night, I was furious.  
Can’t you call me yourself and explain what’s going on? And if you can’t, what kind of relationship is this?

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No hard feelings, I hope.  
Goodbye, Hillary.  
America

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-hillary/728939/2 "2015-08-26T12:56:11Z")

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NM.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-hillary/728939/3 "2015-08-26T12:59:56Z")

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NY Post/Fox News pundit doesn’t like Hillary? Stop the presses!

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-hillary/728939/4 "2015-08-26T13:11:48Z")

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[Here is the link to the article the OP cut-and-pasted from.](http://nypost.com/2015/08/25/why-america-is-done-with-hillary-clinton/) Got anything original to say on the subject?

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**Author:** ![Bimmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/db5fbb/32.png) [@Bimmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bimmer)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-hillary/728939/5 "2015-08-26T13:25:29Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> [Here is the link to the article the OP cut-and-pasted from.](http://nypost.com/2015/08/25/why-america-is-done-with-hillary-clinton/) Got anything original to say on the subject?

The OP said it all.  
I give Hillary another month before the DNC tells her to pack her bags and go home.  
All it’s going to take is the arrival at DNC headquarters of a plain brown envelope containing the last nail in Hillary’s coffin.  
Don’t kid yourself. That nail does exist. It will be an email from a disgruntled former donor to Bill and Hillary’s shake-down foundation. It will go something like: “Hillary. I have you on tape promising me if I donated $50K to your foundation you’d make sure my son got that job at the embassy in Nairobi. I sent you the money directly and I have the bank statement to prove it”.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-hillary/728939/6 "2015-08-26T14:11:03Z")

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Got anything aside from speculation?

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-hillary/728939/7 "2015-08-26T14:18:18Z")

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Bimmer, it’s against the rules of the SDMB to post too much of a copyrighted piece. In the future please place a snippet and provide a link and some commentary.

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**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-hillary/728939/8 "2015-08-26T14:46:30Z")

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> [@Bimmer](#):
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> I give Hillary another month before the DNC tells her to pack her bags and go home.  
> All it’s going to take is the arrival at DNC headquarters of a plain brown envelope containing the last nail in Hillary’s coffin.

But doesn’t that only leave The Sheepdog and The Pervert \* ? Neither of whom according to you are electable, nor purposed to be. Dang ! guess that old DNC wants everyone to vote for Bush…

- A very fine Italian film from 1947, B/W, set in the Alps. Shot by the ( human ) protagonist entirely alone. Select Art Cinemas only.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-hillary/728939/9 "2015-08-26T14:46:59Z")

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All this says is that Hillary Clinton is scaring the conservatives and they want a different candidate to run against.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-hillary/728939/10 "2015-08-26T14:50:13Z")

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> [@Bimmer](#):
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> It will be an email from a disgruntled former donor to Bill and Hillary’s shake-down foundation. It will go something like: “Hillary. I have you on tape promising me if I donated $50K to your foundation you’d make sure my son got that job at the embassy in Nairobi. I sent you the money directly and I have the bank statement to prove it”.

James O’Keefe is writing that email as we speak.

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**Author:** ![Pashnish\_Ewing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8797f3/32.png) [@Pashnish\_Ewing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pashnish_Ewing)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-hillary/728939/11 "2015-08-26T14:54:04Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> All this says is that Hillary Clinton is scaring the conservatives and they want a different candidate to run against.

I don’t think this is any more valid than when conservatives insisted that Liberals were scared of Palin. Or are currently scared of Trump.

Generally speaking, I believe that conservatives honestly feel that Sec. Clinton is always ‘THIS CLOSE’ to imploding. They thought the same about Bill, and now they think the same about Hillary. It’s a blind spot that works to their disadvantage, IMO.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-hillary/728939/12 "2015-08-26T16:37:18Z")

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> [@Bimmer](#):
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> The OP said it all.  
> I give Hillary another month before the DNC tells her to pack her bags and go home.  
> All it’s going to take is the arrival at DNC headquarters of a plain brown envelope containing the last nail in Hillary’s coffin.  
> Don’t kid yourself. That nail does exist. It will be an email from a disgruntled former donor to Bill and Hillary’s shake-down foundation. It will go something like: “Hillary. I have you on tape promising me if I donated $50K to your foundation you’d make sure my son got that job at the embassy in Nairobi. I sent you the money directly and I have the bank statement to prove it”.

“Said it all?” I’ve read every post in this thread and I still have no idea what you’re babbling about.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-hillary/728939/13 "2015-08-26T17:11:06Z")

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> [@Bimmer](#):
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> The OP said it all.

Well, it said that some guy named Michael Goodwin seems to have confused himself with America, and imagines he’s got enough of a relationship with Hillary to be upset when she doesn’t take his calls.

And the OP doesn’t seem to be letting us in on this as evidence of the state of Goodwin’s psyche. In fact, the OP doesn’t seem to be fazed by Goodwin at all.

That probably says something about the OP, but this is the wrong forum to take that speculation further.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-hillary/728939/14 "2015-08-26T17:13:41Z")

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But just for fun, [a different letter](http://www.bobdylan.com/us/songs/dear-landlord):

_Dear landlord  
Please heed these words that I speak  
I know you’ve suffered much  
But in this you are not so unique  
All of us, at times, we might work too hard  
To have it too fast and too much  
And anyone can fill his life up  
With things he can see but he just cannot touch_

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-hillary/728939/15 "2015-08-26T17:21:53Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Well, it said that some guy named Michael Goodwin seems to have confused himself with America, and imagines he’s got enough of a relationship with Hillary to be upset when she doesn’t take his calls.
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> And the OP doesn’t seem to be letting us in on this as evidence of the state of Goodwin’s psyche. In fact, the OP doesn’t seem to be fazed by Goodwin at all.
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> That probably says something about the OP, but this is the wrong forum to take that speculation further.

Michael Goodwin? As in, the two-time Nobel Prize winner? The guy who stars in those Dos Equis ads about the most interesting man in the world? The former Indy car driver? The guy who invented Oreos that have only 5 calories each but taste even better than regular Oreos?

No?

Oh, you must mean some hack who works for a shitty newspaper.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-hillary/728939/16 "2015-08-26T17:27:57Z")

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NY Post, no less.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-hillary/728939/17 "2015-08-26T17:37:44Z")

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> [@Bimmer](#):
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> I give Hillary another month before the DNC tells her to pack her bags and go home. All it’s going to take is the arrival at DNC headquarters of a plain brown envelope containing the last nail in Hillary’s coffin.

To quote Ronald Reagan, “there you go again.” You and the “plain brown envelope”. It comes up every time you speak of Clinton. Besides your own personal opinion, is there anything that substantiates this theorizing. At all?

Hillary Clinton has been hated by her opponents for over 20 years. They would likely pay millions of dollars to get the final “nail in the coffin.” So why is it always that actual, documentable proof of her vileness is always coming _tomorrow_. What possible reason is there that somebody who has such dirt has been withholding it all of this time?

Look, if you don’t like Clinton (and that is plainly noted), then why don’t you actually criticize her for something that she’s done. Hating her for the scandals that are merely imagined is sort of weak, is it not?

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**Author:** ![Bimmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/db5fbb/32.png) [@Bimmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bimmer)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-hillary/728939/18 "2015-08-26T18:19:21Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> Bimmer, it’s against the rules of the SDMB to post too much of a copyrighted piece. In the future please place a snippet and provide a link and some commentary.

Will do. Sorry.

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**Author:** ![Bimmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/db5fbb/32.png) [@Bimmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bimmer)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-hillary/728939/19 "2015-08-26T18:21:20Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> Got anything aside from speculation?

All human experience is based on “speculation”. We all ‘speculate’ about whether the sun will rise tomorrow morning.

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**Author:** ![Bimmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/db5fbb/32.png) [@Bimmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bimmer)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-hillary/728939/20 "2015-08-26T18:26:55Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> To quote Ronald Reagan, “there you go again.” You and the “plain brown envelope”. It comes up every time you speak of Clinton. Besides your own personal opinion, is there anything that substantiates this theorizing. At all?
> 
> Hillary Clinton has been hated by her opponents for over 20 years. They would likely pay millions of dollars to get the final “nail in the coffin.” So why is it always that actual, documentable proof of her vileness is always coming _tomorrow_. What possible reason is there that somebody who has such dirt has been withholding it all of this time?
> 
> Look, if you don’t like Clinton (and that is plainly noted), then why don’t you actually criticize her for something that she’s done. Hating her for the scandals that are merely imagined is sort of weak, is it not?

Oh I don’t think the people who lost their life savings in the Clinton’s Whitewater’ scam would agree their money was just imaginary.  
If you honestly believe the Clintons are innocent of the dozens of things they have been accused of that’s your choice.  
Have a nice day.  
Don’t forget to send in your champaign donation to ‘Hillarity’.  
She’s broke right?

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