# Dear Janeane Garofalo

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-janeane-garofalo/243499>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 4, 2004, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-janeane-garofalo/243499 "2004-05-04T18:04:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2004, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-janeane-garofalo/243499/1 "2004-05-04T18:04:15Z")

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Janeane Garofalo, on today’s Sharon Osbourne Show, was explaining the difference between liberals and conservates. After sharing a litany of liberal accomplishments like child labor laws, desegregation, voting rights and so forth, this is what she said conservatives do:

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> Traditionally, what right-wingers and conservatives do is hire their thugs with baseball bats to bust heads of the liberals that [sic] are fighting for the betterment of society.

What the fuck? Are you an undercover operative from Ken Mehlman’s office? Can someone please remind me why I should not vote for Ralph Nader?

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2004, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-janeane-garofalo/243499/2 "2004-05-04T18:05:48Z")

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> [@Libertarian](#):
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> Janeane Garofalo, on today’s Sharon Osbourne Show, was explaining the difference between liberals and conservates. After sharing a litany of liberal accomplishments like child labor laws, desegregation, voting rights and so forth, this is what she said conservatives do:  
> What the fuck? Are you an undercover operative from Ken Mehlman’s office? Can someone please remind me why I should not vote for Ralph Nader?

(a) I agree that that’s pretty far over in the scale of asinine  
(b) What does it have to do with Ralph Nader?

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**Author:** ![Zjestika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/8edcca/32.png) [@Zjestika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zjestika)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2004, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-janeane-garofalo/243499/3 "2004-05-04T18:11:02Z")

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Just like conservatives, there are plenty of liberal talking heads that say outrageous things about how evil the other party is.

She’s a comedian, and kind of washed-up at that. No need to get your panties in a bunch.

ZJ

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2004, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-janeane-garofalo/243499/4 "2004-05-04T18:13:04Z")

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Cripes almighty Lib. I mean, I know folks think she’s a bit overweight, but really, she IS just ONE person with one opinion.

**ON THE SHARON OSBOURNE SHOW**. Do you really think she’s capable of turning the tides by appealing to the washed up metal mom viewers?

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**Author:** ![cuauhtemoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@cuauhtemoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuauhtemoc)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2004, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-janeane-garofalo/243499/5 "2004-05-04T18:14:09Z")

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Watch the Sharon Osbourne show often, do you? Try to focus on the dogs. They’re cute, and completely non-partisan.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2004, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-janeane-garofalo/243499/6 "2004-05-04T18:14:43Z")

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She was pretty far out there on _The Daily Show_ last night too. I like her, I think she’s funny, but she should stick to comedy and not so much the political commentary.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2004, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-janeane-garofalo/243499/7 "2004-05-04T18:32:00Z")

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do you mean to tell me that liberal ninnies _exist_!?!?! quelle suprise! Next you’re going to tell me that there are conservative ninnies, as well (say, ones that suggest that folks who don’t lock step in agreement w/the War in Iraq are traitors to the USA), or some other news flash about the pope and da bears.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2004, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-janeane-garofalo/243499/8 "2004-05-04T18:38:48Z")

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She’s such an angry woman, too. Why do the angry ones go into politics and make everyone miserable?

Oh, wait. Her whole act used to be about how she wasn’t getting any. That must be it. 😃

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**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2004, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-janeane-garofalo/243499/9 "2004-05-04T18:39:40Z")

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…depending on Janeane Garafolo for reliable political information…?

Isn’t that kind of like going to Jim Carrey for brain surgery, or to Sarah Michelle Gellar to have your car repaired?

Nothing against any of these people, but politics, surgery, and auto mechanics ain’t their specialties.

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2004, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-janeane-garofalo/243499/10 "2004-05-04T18:39:51Z")

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> [@Libertarian](#):
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> Can someone please remind me why I should not vote for Ralph Nader?

To the best of my knowledge, Janeane Garofalo isn’t running for President, so how would a vote for Ralph Nader be a statement against anything Janeane Garofalo has to say? From what I can tell, John Kerry, the person who actually _is_ running on the Democratic ticket, does not share her views on conservatives being baseball bat-weilding head-busters. So I don’t think I understand your question.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2004, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-janeane-garofalo/243499/11 "2004-05-04T18:57:47Z")

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> [@Libertarian](#):
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> … on today’s Sharon Osbourne Show…

:eek:

So, I was parading around the house in ladies underwear yesterday…  
So, I was punting this cat yesterday…  
So, I was rally digging on this ABBA song yesterday…

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**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2004, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-janeane-garofalo/243499/12 "2004-05-04T18:58:09Z")

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Shayna, To translate: **Libertarian** is having this thing where he is blaming Liberals for driving people in to the arms of Bush 2.0. This has him in a snit, and so anything some random Liberal does is cause for a meltdown.

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**Author:** ![griffen2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ce7236/32.png) [@griffen2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffen2)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2004, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-janeane-garofalo/243499/13 "2004-05-04T18:58:20Z")

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It’s pretty clear she was talking metaphorically and given the popularity of Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Bill O’Reilley, Bernie Goldberg, Michelle Malkin, Sean Hannitty, Mike Savage and Peggy Noonan _to name but a few_ who have made bashing liberals into a thriving cottage industry, I’d say she has a point.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2004, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-janeane-garofalo/243499/14 "2004-05-04T19:03:53Z")

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> [@cuauhtemoc](#):
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> Try to focus on the dogs. They’re cute, and completely non-partisan.

True perhaps, but dogs in general are definitely conservatives. At least, I’ve never known any that enjoyed radical changes in their living situations.  
Except for new and unusual foods, which will be consumed\* even if they are not food in the usual sense of the word.

\*although not necessarily digested.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2004, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-janeane-garofalo/243499/15 "2004-05-04T19:04:03Z")

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I caught her on “The Daily Show” last night. She put forth the brilliant proposition that voting for Bush amounts to “a character flaw”. :rolleyes: I didn’t get the impression she was joking, either.

What a dumb cunt.

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Fagjunk theology: Not just for Sodomite Propagandists anymore.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2004, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-janeane-garofalo/243499/16 "2004-05-04T19:09:48Z")

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> [@gatopescado](#):
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> I caught her on “The Daily Show” last night. She put forth the brilliant proposition that voting for Bush amounts to “a character flaw”. :rolleyes: I didn’t get the impression she was joking, either.
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> What a dumb cunt.

How do you get the impression that comedians are joking…if they laugh at their own joke? I have never seen her even smile.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2004, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-janeane-garofalo/243499/17 "2004-05-04T19:15:54Z")

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She was funny for about 5 minutes once.

Oh, and what the hell was up with the peroxide look?

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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2004, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-janeane-garofalo/243499/18 "2004-05-04T19:46:09Z")

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I didn’t see the show but my guess is that the quote about “right-wingers and conservatives” hiring “thugs with baseball bats to bust heads of the liberals” is a historical reference to the times when things like union organization, strikes for better wages and working conditions, and marches for civil rights were met with violent opposition from either hired goons or the police.

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> I like her, I think she’s funny, but she should stick to comedy and not so much the political commentary

So do I. In fact, I wouldn’t mind the political commentary if she could effectively work it into her routine like Chris Rock does or the late Bill Hicks did. Unfortunately, she can’t. Garafalo’s early humor was based on her being a detached Gen-X slacker and her new liberal activist image is too much of sharp contrast. For some reason, whenever she starts going off on various issues (which is now fairly frequently), the funny stops and the heavy-handed preachiness begins.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2004, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-janeane-garofalo/243499/19 "2004-05-04T19:47:47Z")

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> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#):
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> She was funny for about 5 minutes once.
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> Oh, and what the hell was up with the peroxide look?

She got her hair done just for her new radio show: apparently she needed a different look for the new medium. 😉

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**Author:** ![akennett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee59a6/32.png) [@akennett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/akennett)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2004, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-janeane-garofalo/243499/20 "2004-05-04T19:58:21Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Except for new and unusual foods, which will be consumed\* even if they are not food in the usual sense of the word.  
> \*although not necessarily digested.

But isn’t that the conservative ethic: gimme, gimme, gimme!!!

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