# Dear Lynn "Spare the Rod and Spoil the Child" Bodoni:

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 3, 2011, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752 "2011-11-03T16:12:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/41 "2011-11-03T21:36:44Z")

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**Anaamika** : The hell of it is, in order to see the tag while you were still pulled over, you would have had to get out of your car and walk past the cop, after first telling him you didn’t take his word for it. In other words, defy authority.

**rogerbox** : I was going to tell the anecdote about my mom and the wastebasket, but forget it. It’s what **Hampshire** said: these are people who don’t like their lives.

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**Author:** ![ballardfam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8797f3/32.png) [@ballardfam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ballardfam)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/42 "2011-11-03T21:39:12Z")

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> [@rogerbox](#):
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> Abusers will always find a way, that is why it doesn’t MATTER what it was that set them off.

Good on you. I know it’s not my place to approve/disapprove of your conclusions here but it’s really nice to see someone who grew up in an abusive home really ‘get’ it. I’ve known a lot of people who can never get past the details to see this basic truth.

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**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/43 "2011-11-03T22:12:38Z")

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Anyone that could defend what that asshole did in the video is seriously fucked in the head.

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**Author:** ![Acid\_Lamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Acid\_Lamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acid_Lamp)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/44 "2011-11-03T22:13:29Z")

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Anyone else notice that **Lynn** has been strangely silent and yet suddenly up pops a mythical caballo blanco to the defense? I smell feet, did someone take off their shoes?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/45 "2011-11-03T22:24:12Z")

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I thought that was pretty obvious, yes. Not the least because both use the exact same words and arguments.

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**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/46 "2011-11-03T22:30:49Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> I thought that was pretty obvious, yes. Not the least because both use the exact same words and arguments.

Yeah, noted Ms. Mythical’s join date and wondered whether anything was up with that.

Don’t suppose there’s anything to be done if it were, is there?

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**Author:** ![Acid\_Lamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Acid\_Lamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acid_Lamp)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/47 "2011-11-03T22:34:29Z")

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> [@Lasciel](#):
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> Yeah, noted Ms. Mythical’s join date and wondered whether anything was up with that.
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> Don’t suppose there’s anything to be done if it were, is there?

That’s a beltin’

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/48 "2011-11-03T22:38:47Z")

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Funny, both list locations as Texas

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/49 "2011-11-03T22:48:51Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> There is something creepy about a grown man spanking an adolescent girl. This is way beyond a simple spanking, obviously, but who does that in the first place?
> 
> **Lynn Bodoni** said that this was a last resort punishment, but I don’t know where she got that idea from. She made a lot of odd assumptions.

Especially the part where he told her to bend down over the bed and take it.

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**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/50 "2011-11-03T22:57:25Z")

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> [@Acid\_Lamp](#):
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> Anyone else notice that **Lynn** has been strangely silent

I also noticed that Lynn’s profile does not have the “last activity” field. I thought they all did, but evidently I was wrong.

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**Author:** ![Suil\_Dubh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85f322/32.png) [@Suil\_Dubh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suil_Dubh)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/51 "2011-11-03T23:00:59Z")

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> [@olivesmarch4th](#):
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> Yup, that’s pretty disturbing. I seem to remember another poster telling me something similar a couple of years ago when I talked about not hitting my future kids - maybe it was **Lynn** then too.

I read about a murder case several years ago where they never caught the culprit. That might have been **Lynn** , too.

So not only is she a child abuser, she’s also a murderess.

> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> She’s always been a bit opinionated she just is ramping it up lately.

A child-abusing murderess on a rampage!

> [@Rilchiam](#):
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> I thought the mods should know about an issue **Lynn** might not be aware of until hours or days later. I would have done the same if a non-mod/admin had been posting seemingly out of character. But on further reflection, it appears she was not posting out of character. :dubious:

A schizophrenic child-abusing murderess on a rampage!

> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> Her posts were nauseating and frankly, deeply insulting.

A deeply offensive schizophrenic child-abusing murderess on a rampage…

> [@hajario](#):
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> She has spared us no details of her health problems and bowel movements, for example.

…who frequently has unhealthy bowel movements!

> [@mhendo](#):
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> **Lynn** is apparently also an expert in the study of quantum-level changes in computer storage.

A deeply offensive schizophrenic child-abusing murderess on a rampage with a Ph.D and unhealthy bowel movements!

HOLY SHIT!

**SHE’S A WITCH!**

\*\*BURN HER!!! \*\*

> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> She made a lot of odd assumptions.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/52 "2011-11-03T23:42:11Z")

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Point taken, **Suil** , but the poster in question was trying to make an interesting and debatable point - she was basically warning against me being too hard on myself if I ever lost my temper on my future children. The remarks were on that borderline between trying to be compassionate toward overwhelmed parents and defending incidents of physical abuse as somehow inevitable. So in my mind, it’s relevant and like _dejá vu_ all over again.

I don’t assume **Lynn** is a child abuser. I assume that she made a statement that borders very much on victim-blaming. I find that personally distressing. As for the rest, I’m not really into character attacks.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/53 "2011-11-04T00:11:39Z")

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> [@miss\_elizabeth](#):
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> God knows I’m not Dio’s biggest fan (I kept him on ignore), but he would have never said something like that. It isn’t fair to say that when it isn’t true and he cannot defend himself.

If anything, he’d have done the exact opposite.  
What gets me is that her idea of an “out of control teenager” is one who illegally downloads music and video games. She didn’t come home reeking of booze and pot, she’s not selling drugs, or get pregnant by a thirty-year old. She downloaded some crap from Kazaa\*. That’s it. I shudder to think what it was like growing up with **Lynn** as a mother, especially when she said, “fortunately, my daughter was obedient”, or whatever.  
Hell, even people on _Free fucking Republic_ were condemning it.  
My dad has one hell of a temper, and he never beat the shit out of me, even when I was a mouthy little bitch. (Which trust me, I was.) I got a few slaps in the face once when I had a major tempor tantrum to the point I was making myself sick. It was more of a “snap out of it!” type of thing, than a punishment.

\*She pretty much punished herself there anyone. Kazaa is loaded with malware. She’d be better off using Limewire or Frostwire. Uh, not that I know anything about that or anything.

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**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/54 "2011-11-04T00:52:10Z")

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Seriously, an out-of-control teen DOWNLOADING COMPUTER STUFF. Oh, the humanity. We must beat the devil out of her!

Such behavior is so much more easily handled by removing the computer.

I don’t give a damn if she’s killing kittens (well, I do, but…). Beating a child like that isn’t for correction, it’s for humiliation, torture, and retribution. Which takes it out of the realm of discipline and into the realm of abuse.

Beating a child like that for ATTACKING YOU isn’t even appropriate. In that case, you call the cops on the kid who’s attacking you.

What the fuck is WRONG with you, **Lynn?**

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**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/55 "2011-11-04T01:00:16Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> Did children from the bygone, often romanticized era of what is now classified as abuse behave any better because they got “taken to the woodshed”, had to “pick their switch” or were beaten with a belt? Honest question.

Definitely yes.

We were well-behaved, had good manners, good grades, knew what fork to use at what time, etc.

The only time I was ‘troubled’ was when I disagreed with my dad’s conservatism or when I pierced my ears and went through the pre-teen years. They had split custody. Still, we behaved, kept everything spotless, did our chores, smiled pretty at dinner parties.

I wouldn’t have dreamed of not doing something they asked me to or lying or sneaking out or any of the things I see kids do.

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**Author:** ![Acid\_Lamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Acid\_Lamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acid_Lamp)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/56 "2011-11-04T01:05:37Z")

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> [@CitizenPained](#):
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> Definitely yes.
> 
> We were well-behaved, had good manners, good grades, knew what fork to use at what time, etc.
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> The only time I was ‘troubled’ was when I disagreed with my dad’s conservatism or when I pierced my ears and went through the pre-teen years. They had split custody. Still, we behaved, kept everything spotless, did our chores, smiled pretty at dinner parties.
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> I wouldn’t have dreamed of not doing something they asked me to or lying or sneaking out or any of the things I see kids do.

Assuming this is true, it explains an awful lot.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/57 "2011-11-04T01:07:12Z")

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> [@CitizenPained](#):
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> Definitely yes.
> 
> We were well-behaved, had good manners, good grades, knew what fork to use at what time, etc.
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> The only time I was ‘troubled’ was when I disagreed with my dad’s conservatism or when I pierced my ears and went through the pre-teen years. They had split custody. Still, we behaved, kept everything spotless, did our chores, smiled pretty at dinner parties.
> 
> I wouldn’t have dreamed of not doing something they asked me to or lying or sneaking out or any of the things I see kids do.

Aren’t you in your twenties?

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**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/58 "2011-11-04T01:11:21Z")

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> [@CitizenPained](#):
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> Definitely yes.
> 
> We were well-behaved, had good manners, good grades, knew what fork to use at what time, etc.
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> The only time I was ‘troubled’ was when I disagreed with my dad’s conservatism or when I pierced my ears and went through the pre-teen years. They had split custody. Still, we behaved, kept everything spotless, did our chores, smiled pretty at dinner parties.
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> I wouldn’t have dreamed of not doing something they asked me to or lying or sneaking out or any of the things I see kids do.

I believe **FoieGrasIsEvil** is probably asking about children in general, who were supposedly brought up under widespread abusive situations that you call normal, and not your personal experiences, as fascinating as you may think that they are.

For your information, many, MANY children learned the exact things that you did, without getting the shit beaten out of them. Beating children is not required to raise functional adults, as much as you would like to continue to insist otherwise.

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**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/59 "2011-11-04T01:13:39Z")

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> [@CitizenPained](#):
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> Definitely yes.
> 
> We were well-behaved, had good manners, good grades, knew what fork to use at what time, etc.
> 
> The only time I was ‘troubled’ was when I disagreed with my dad’s conservatism or when I pierced my ears and went through the pre-teen years. They had split custody. Still, we behaved, kept everything spotless, did our chores, smiled pretty at dinner parties.
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> I wouldn’t have dreamed of not doing something they asked me to or lying or sneaking out or any of the things I see kids do.

In honor of this post I am inventing a new word. It’s a portmanteau of “dumb” and “funny”. I shall call it “fumby”.

**CitizenPained** , you, and your post, are very fumby. It makes me laugh, but it also makes me sad. Please, stop being so fumby. You should strive for funny, without so much dumb.

You’re welcome.

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**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/60 "2011-11-04T01:18:38Z")

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> [@miss\_elizabeth](#):
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> In honor of this post I am inventing a new word. It’s a portmanteau of “dumb” and “funny”. I shall call it “fumby”.
> 
> **CitizenPained** , you, and your post, are very fumby. It makes me laugh, but it also makes me sad. Please, stop being so fumby. You should strive for funny, without so much dumb.
> 
> You’re welcome.

And this is someone who works with at-risk teens for a living.

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