# Dear Lynn "Spare the Rod and Spoil the Child" Bodoni: **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 3, 2011, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752 "2011-11-03T16:12:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/61 "2011-11-04T01:28:55Z")
> [@olivesmarch4th](#): > > Point taken, **Suil** , but the poster in question was trying to make an interesting and debatable point - she was basically warning against me being too hard on myself if I ever lost my temper on my future children. The remarks were on that borderline between trying to be compassionate toward overwhelmed parents and defending incidents of physical abuse as somehow inevitable. So in my mind, it’s relevant and like _dejá vu_ all over again. Much as I am appalled by what **Lynn** posted in that other thread, I can’t let her take the fall for the incident you’re mentioning here. It was [actually me](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=570093&highlight=discipline&page=2). FTR, I read that and still know that I wasn’t defending abuse as inevitable. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/62 "2011-11-04T01:32:07Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Hell, even people on _Free fucking Republic_ were condemning it. Huh. I didn’t know Hizzoner was a Democrat… ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/63 "2011-11-04T01:57:36Z")
> [@lorene](#): > > Much as I am appalled by what **Lynn** posted in that other thread, I can’t let her take the fall for the incident you’re mentioning here. It was [actually me](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=570093&highlight=discipline&page=2). > > FTR, I read that and still know that I wasn’t defending abuse as inevitable. ☹ I read what you wrote and found it moving. You were simply saying that really good people with the best of intentions slip. And it’s ok and you can forgive yourself. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/64 "2011-11-04T02:12:37Z")
Just wanted to say that this is a fascinating insight as to why so many children are such problems these days. The amount of exaggeration and hyper-sensitivity here is sad. ---
**Author:** ![rogerbox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/76d3ee/32.png) [@rogerbox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rogerbox)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/65 "2011-11-04T02:18:17Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > **rogerbox** : I was going to tell the anecdote about my mom and the wastebasket, but forget it. It’s what **Hampshire** said: these are people who don’t like their lives. Thank you. On the grand scheme of things where a 0 is an idyllic white picket fence and a big dog household and 10 is where the parents abuse their children to near death, I’d say I only ranked about a 4 on the emotional abuse scale. Mine is mostly about being severely neglected and my mother’s complete inability to empathize with me (but she has normal relationships with everyone BUT me), so I know I really haven’t had it nearly as hard as some so I don’t like to complain that often. I still haven’t gotten over why I never had a mother who loved me, but I am just starting to be able to process that I didn’t do anything wrong, and that I tried everything and none of it worked. But thanks. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/66 "2011-11-04T02:19:49Z")
Dio was banned? Surely that cannot be true. I for one, am all for the whipping of children from Texas. ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/67 "2011-11-04T02:45:43Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > Just wanted to say that this is a fascinating insight as to why so many children are such problems these days. The amount of exaggeration and hyper-sensitivity here is sad. This quote is a fascinating insight into why you are so fucked in the head when it comes to anything about parents and children. Actually, no, it isn’t. It just sucks. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/68 "2011-11-04T02:56:39Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > This quote is a fascinating insight into why you are so fucked in the head when it comes to anything about parents and children. > > Actually, no, it isn’t. It just sucks. Hon, it’s **CURLCOAT.** Don’t you know by now she’s fucked in the head and can be completely ignored at all times? ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/69 "2011-11-04T02:59:20Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > Hon, it’s **CURLCOAT.** Don’t you know by now she’s fucked in the head and can be completely ignored at all times? Just ignore her. She posts crap like this and then feeds off the drama she creates. It is really just best if she is summarily ignored. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/70 "2011-11-04T03:21:17Z")
> [@Acid\_Lamp](#): > > Anyone else notice that **Lynn** has been strangely silent and yet suddenly up pops a mythical caballo blanco to the defense? I smell feet, did someone take off their shoes? I’m not seeing any posts by anyone called caballo blanco. Are you talking about in the original thread about the judge beating his daughter? ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/71 "2011-11-04T03:22:02Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > This quote is a fascinating insight into why you are so fucked in the head when it comes to anything about parents and children. > > Actually, no, it isn’t. It just sucks. > [@Kolga](#): > > Hon, it’s **CURLCOAT.** Don’t you know by now she’s fucked in the head and can be completely ignored at all times? > [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > Just ignore her. She posts crap like this and then feeds off the drama she creates. It is really just best if she is summarily ignored. HAHAHAHA! After I posted, I wondered if it would be taken as another bash at **Lynn** since it was kind of vague, but no the mommy brigade assumed it had to be that someone was once again noticing that their children are hell to be around. Way to go. As for drama, well this whole thread is drama created by parents who think that a swat to the butt has to be the same thing as hitting a child, and that physical punishment has to be the same thing as abuse. It’s pretty obvious that none of you know what real abuse is. I haven’t seen the video in question, nor have I looked at the linked thread, so for all I know the kid was abused and/or **Lynn** condoned it (which I seriously doubt). All I’ve seen are the posts in this thread and if all of the responses are based only on the OP, you all are doing your usual over reaction. The posts here are the same ones I see any time a poster appears to step out of the “right way of thinking” - part feeding frenzy and part illustration of either immense stupidity or willful misinterpretation. If you all weren’t raising kids, it would be funny. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/72 "2011-11-04T03:31:18Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > As for drama, well this whole thread is drama created by parents who think that a swat to the butt has to be the same thing as hitting a child, and that physical punishment has to be the same thing as abuse. Um, no. > [@](#): > > I haven’t seen the video in question, nor have I looked at the linked thread, Then maybe, no, DEFINITELY, you should shut the fuck up. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/73 "2011-11-04T03:32:20Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > I’m not seeing any posts by anyone called caballo blanco. Are you talking about in the original thread about the judge beating his daughter? White Unicorn in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/74 "2011-11-04T03:33:41Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Um, no. > > I haven’t seen the video in question, nor have I looked at the linked thread, > > Then maybe you should shut the fuck up. Right. It’s OK for you all to respond to just the OP, but not me because I’m not agreeing with the status quo? Um, no. BTW, I did look at both the video for a couple of minutes, and two of **Lynn’s** posts in the other thread, and yup, you all are being assholes. Whatta surprise. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/75 "2011-11-04T03:36:11Z")
Ugh, I can’t believe I’m violating my own decision to not respond to such a fucking nutbag. What a surprise. **curlbitch** thinks beating a 16-year-old with a belt is appropriate behavior. Whodda thunk? What a waste of human skin you are, you fucking psychopath. Of course, take heart - you’re not the only completely useless piece of shit on this message board, as the discussion about this event has revealed. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/76 "2011-11-04T03:37:40Z")
**curlcoat** was shocked to learn that there are descendents of slaves still living in the US. I think that’s pretty much all the information you need to know about her to judge the value of her input. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/77 "2011-11-04T03:43:20Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > **curlcoat** was shocked to learn that there are descendents of slaves still living in the US. > > I think that’s pretty much all the information you need to know about her to judge the value of her input. You’ve got to be kidding me. I mean, I knew she was a psychopath, but I didn’t think she was a diagnosable drooling moron. Really? ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/78 "2011-11-04T03:45:18Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > Right. It’s OK for you all to respond to just the OP, but not me because I’m not agreeing with the status quo? > > Um, no. > > BTW, I did look at both the video for a couple of minutes, and two of **Lynn’s** posts in the other thread, and yup, you all are being assholes. Whatta surprise. Pretend it’s a golden retriever, not a girl, and then maybe you’ll understand why people are so disturbed. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/79 "2011-11-04T03:48:52Z")
> [@alice\_in\_wonderland](#): > > Anyone that could defend what that asshole did in the video is seriously fucked in the head. Word. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752/80 "2011-11-04T03:52:45Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > Ugh, I can’t believe I’m violating my own decision to not respond to such a fucking nutbag. > > What a surprise. **curlbitch** thinks beating a 16-year-old with a belt is appropriate behavior. Whodda thunk? > > What a waste of human skin you are, you fucking psychopath. Of course, take heart - you’re not the only completely useless piece of shit on this message board, as the discussion about this event has revealed. > [@Miller](#): > > **curlcoat** was shocked to learn that there are descendents of slaves still living in the US. > > I think that’s pretty much all the information you need to know about her to judge the value of her input. Thank you to both of you for such quick and apt examples of what I am talking about. **Kolga** I didn’t say anything that would in any way indicate that I think that beating anyone with a belt is appropriate behavior. But since I am not falling in line with the “one right way”, you either make up a huge exaggeration or (which would be scary) actually believe I said something like that. Add that to the fact that you have noticed that there are others in this thread who have noticed that maybe, just maybe, there has been some overreaction here and I begin to wonder who exactly is the real completely useless piece of shit fucking psychopath. **Miller** , dear, I hope your mod talents are better than your memory. I was not shocked to learn there are descendants of slaves in the US, I was surprised to learn that is what a majority of our current black population is. What I actually wasn’t aware of was there there haven’t been all that many black who have come to live here since +/- 150 years ago. Big difference there, but don’t let it get in the way of you doing your best to smear someone based on bad information. > [@Freudian Slit](#): > > Pretend it’s a golden retriever, not a girl, and then maybe you’ll understand why people are so disturbed. What are you on about? I agree it’s abuse, what I don’t agree with is how people have (apparently willfully) misinterpreted what **Lynn** said. Shoot, _she_ agreed it was abuse! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-lynn-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child-bodoni/601752.md?page=5)