# Dear Mel Gibson........ **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 1, 2010, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246 "2010-07-01T22:28:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/61 "2010-07-02T15:15:34Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > Did someone mention klan flavored icecream? Gimme a double scoop. > > What on earth does someone’s racist beliefs have to do with how delicous their ice cream is? > > I don’t know enough about economics or about people’s personal belief system to avoid ‘financing hateful goals’. Was Walt Disney anti-semetic? Should I have taken my daughter to see the Princess and the Frog? Is Walmart abusive and monstrous to their employees? Does Nike run sweatshops? I’m not about to keep up with everyone’s issues that they have. The klan doesn’t like blacks and Jews? That’s their problem. No reason for me to miss out on yummy ice cream. It’s such an extreme hypothetical, but wouldn’t it bother you that the profits from Klan Quadruple Vanilla ice cream was being used to finance hate crimes? I think at some point a corporation, by virtue of it’s policies and ownership, could be heinous enough to justify joining a boycott. As for Mel, he just seems childish and pathetic. I wouldn’t boycott his movies based on his drunken tirades, but if he did, in fact, abuse his wife or he was funding Aryan Nations then yes, I would boycott. It would be interesting to hear what Danny Glover and Tina Turner think of Gibson. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/62 "2010-07-02T15:34:37Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > He’s not being prosecuted (or persecuted), people have simply decided they don’t like him. People are within their rights to withhold approval from people who do and say stupid shit. Really? I did not know that. So glad you are out there fighting ignorance and all that. Back to my point. How would you feel if Mel was fantastic in how he ACTUALLY treated “minorities” yet he goes on these dumb ass drunken rants once in awhile? ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/63 "2010-07-02T15:37:02Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > It’s such an extreme hypothetical, but wouldn’t it bother you that the profits from Klan Quadruple Vanilla ice cream was being used to finance hate crimes? Yes it would. So far though, I haven’t seen any evidence that by seeing a Mel Gibson movie I’d be financing any criminal activity. But even then, if I was assured it really was the best ice cream ever I’d probably buy a scoop out of curiosity. If other people want to boycott any financial connection to someone simply because they don’t like them as people that’s fine by me. I just don’t really do it (except for Michael Savage). ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/64 "2010-07-02T16:00:20Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > His only defense is a doctor’s note saying he got turrets syndrome Well, he _is_ a loose cannon, to be sure. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/65 "2010-07-02T16:00:23Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > So if the Klan made really good ice cream, you’d stand in line for a scoop? Well no, I wouldn’t. You ever been to a shop where they serve 31 varieties of vanilla? I can’t ever figure out what line to get in. [sub]and plain vanilla at that. No vanilla bean because that has flecks of black in it. Lord help you if you order French vanilla there…[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/66 "2010-07-02T16:09:13Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > His only defense is a doctor’s note saying he got turrets syndrome after getting beaten up by a pack of wild Canadians. What syndrome is that? A condition where one constantly assumes a postion inside a domelike gunner’s enclosure projecting from the fuselage of a combat aircraft and verbally fires away? ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/67 "2010-07-02T16:32:14Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > Huh. So it’s a ‘pack’ of wild niggers. I would have guessed a murder or maybe a gaggle. But I guess it’s a pack. Silly, **Nzinga**. Everybody knows that niggers travel in packs and faggots travel in bundles. > [@billfish678](#): > > Back to my point. How would you feel if Mel was fantastic in how he ACTUALLY treated “minorities” yet he goes on these dumb ass drunken rants once in awhile? I would feel that he was a racist, sexist, anti-semitic piece of shit. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/68 "2010-07-02T16:33:05Z")
> [@Green\_Bean](#): > > Silly, **Nzinga**. Everybody knows that niggers travel in packs and faggots travel in bundles. And Jews can be found in cartons. ---
**Author:** ![Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/69 "2010-07-02T16:41:36Z")
And Irishmen in six-packs? ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/70 "2010-07-02T16:43:01Z")
> [@TWDuke](#): > > Well, see, I think people should be judged by what kinds of stupid things they say when they’re drunk. Drinking can’t turn you into a sexist, anti-semitic, bully, it just lowers your inhibitions so your inner sexist, anti-semitic bully can come out. I’ve been drunk enough to nearly asphyxiate on my own vomit (yay, me), and I’m 100 percent certain I’ve never blamed the Jews for “all the wars in the world.” Correctomundo. > [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > Did someone mention klan flavored icecream? Gimme a double scoop. Oh dear gravy, I almost choked on my tea. What does klan-flavored ice cream taste like? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/71 "2010-07-02T16:48:06Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > What does klan-flavored ice cream taste like? It tastes like burning… ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/72 "2010-07-02T16:48:55Z")
> [@Green\_Bean](#): > > Silly, **Nzinga**. Everybody knows that niggers travel in packs and faggots travel in bundles. I am DYING laughing. That is some clever funny. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/73 "2010-07-02T16:50:34Z")
Eighth child? Holy crap, Mel, get the Mighty Snip already! ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/74 "2010-07-02T16:51:37Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > It tastes like burning… Win. Win win win win win. ---
**Author:** ![ministryman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@ministryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ministryman)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/75 "2010-07-02T16:52:01Z")
So I guess Mel won’t be in **Lethal Weapon 5** now, huh? It will be interesting to see how Danny Glover, Darlene Wolfe and the other African-American cast members react to his words. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/76 "2010-07-02T16:56:43Z")
I doubt they’ll say much. They’re too old for that shit. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/77 "2010-07-02T17:00:49Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Back to my point. How would you feel if Mel was fantastic in how he ACTUALLY treated “minorities” yet he goes on these dumb ass drunken rants once in awhile? Like he’s a dumb ass drunken racist. You don’t get points for treating people decently, it’s a bare minimum requirement. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/78 "2010-07-02T17:07:48Z")
> [@Green\_Bean](#): > > Silly, **Nzinga**. Everybody knows that niggers travel in packs and faggots travel in bundles. No, they\*\* travel \*\*in PT Cruisers and Smart Cars respectively but I digress. While I certainly think there is on average SOME truth to the “when your dead ass drunk, you say/do who you REALLY are” I don’t think its a given. I still think you have to look at the sober behavior too to get an idea. Then there is this factor. Let’s say Mel grew up with his dad always getting mad (either drunk and mad or just sober and mad) and saying nigger this and jew that and women are XYZ. A decade or two of growing up in that environment is going to going to IMO nearly permanently imprint on your subconsious. Old Mel might have finally gotten out the house and realized what an ass his old man was, but that stuff is still buried deep. And when sober old Mel actually says and DOES things that are “right” and even believes it to be “right”. But get mad and dead ass drunk and I can certainly see all this bagage due to years of training just coming out automatically. Doesnt mean he actually believes any of it. He booze addled mind is just running on its base programing. Now, OTOH, lets say you have a guy that was raised proper and has always lived and worked in a proper environment. Now, IF HE goes all racist, sexist, anti-semitic during a good drunk, THEN I think you probably have a much better case of “hmmmmm, is that what he really thinks?”. Note, I have no real knowledge of Mel or his history or his family history or his private vs public personna (when sober). But his apparent “good guy” image that seems to have carried so well and for so long does make me pause and think things are not as simple as they first appear. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/79 "2010-07-02T17:09:19Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > Like he’s a dumb ass drunken racist. You don’t get points for treating people decently, it’s a bare minimum requirement. I guess you missed the word fantastic in there huh? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/80 "2010-07-02T17:11:57Z")
An unrepentant abuser and racist asshole. I’m done putting money in his pocket. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246.md?page=5)