# Dear Mel Gibson........

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 1, 2010, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246 "2010-07-01T22:28:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/81 "2010-07-02T17:25:02Z")

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Mel has finally reached the point of no return - and hopefully people will remember this the next time anyone considers investing in his next project. Come on, at some point you just have to say enough is enough - and I think this is that point.

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**Author:** ![Windwalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/5e9695/32.png) [@Windwalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Windwalker)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/82 "2010-07-02T17:50:15Z")

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I thought he got along swimmingly with Danny Glover. Perhaps he was trying to be as profane as possible, and nothing is more profane in American society than the word “nigger”. He’s still a verbally abusive asshole, but if minorities who’ve worked with him for years and years haven’t noticed any hatred or contempt based on race, then I see that as far more important than how he chooses to bitch people out on his drunken tirades.

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**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/83 "2010-07-02T18:00:24Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Gibson is nuts. I sort of defended him after the drunken Jew rant, having believed that his apology was sincere and believing that people shouldn’t be judged by what kinds of stupid things they say when they’re drunk, but this whole thing is kind of beyond the pale.

I also gave Mel a pass on the drunken verbal tirade. If the world could forgive Jesse Jackson’s “Jew York” and Hymie-town (my personal favorite) comments (and they were made sober), I figured Mel’s apology was worth taking on face-value.

However, this sort of puts Mel in a whole new light, doesn’t it?

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/84 "2010-07-02T18:19:30Z")

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> [@Windwalker](#):
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> I thought he got along swimmingly with Danny Glover.

Well, maybe he thought that Danny Glover was one of the “good” ones.

There’s a phrase that people use for that…I forget what it is though.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/85 "2010-07-02T18:21:33Z")

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> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> Well, maybe he thought that Danny Glover was one of the “good” ones.
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> There’s a phrase that people use for that…I forget what it is though.

I guess it’s not “nigger-Glover” …

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/86 "2010-07-02T18:23:54Z")

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**Ba Dum Kssh!** This man is on fire. Try the veal!

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**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/87 "2010-07-02T18:34:31Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I guess it’s not “nigger-Glover” …

I would imagine that if Mel Gibson and Danny Glover were reading this thread, BOTH would buy you a beer for that one… 😃

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**Author:** ![tim-n-va](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim-n-va/32/3001_2.png) [@tim-n-va](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim-n-va)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/88 "2010-07-02T18:53:52Z")

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> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> Huh. So it’s a ‘pack’ of wild niggers. I would have guessed a murder or maybe a gaggle. But I guess it’s a pack.
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> ETA: If Mel makes a movie tomorrow that I think looks awesome, I will be paying my ticket to see it. I assume all types of stars are capable of this type of shit. Doesn’t factor into the art, for me.

It is the adjective “wild” that requires the “pack”. Otherwise it would just be a gaggle. I can see how you might get that confused. 😃

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/89 "2010-07-02T20:23:50Z")

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> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> Huh. So it’s a ‘pack’ of wild niggers. I would have guessed a murder or maybe a gaggle. But I guess it’s a pack.

I would have thought perhaps a “holdfull”.

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**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2010, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/90 "2010-07-03T01:45:52Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> What a scumbag. But boy _Apocalypto_ was terrific!

I second that.

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2010, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/91 "2010-07-03T04:28:25Z")

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Apparently he just finished a film for Jodie Foster called [The Beaver](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1321860/). Actually looks kind of interesting. Shame he’s turned out to be such a jackass.

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**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2010, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/92 "2010-07-03T04:41:45Z")

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> [@leander](#):
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> Apparently he just finished a film for Jodie Foster called [The Beaver](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1321860/). Actually looks kind of interesting. Shame he’s turned out to be such a jackass.

His behavior won’t stop me from seeing his films.

If that were the case, I’d never see a Tom Cruise film.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2010, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/93 "2010-07-03T04:49:18Z")

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And would **that** be such a great loss?

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**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2010, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/94 "2010-07-03T05:48:23Z")

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> [@Rilchiam](#):
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> And would **that** be such a great loss?

great loss? no.. but I do enjoy most of his films… much more than say, Nick Cage.

There are many actors and actresses that are “out there”, and would do themselves a world of good by keeping their mouths shut. If I like their acting, I try not to get involved with following their politics, religion, or personal thoughts.

For example, from some accounts I’ve read, Clint Eastwood is a major asshole when it comes to his many children by a multitude of women. I still enjoy most of his movies in spite of this.

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**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2010, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/95 "2010-07-03T05:48:59Z")

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> [@Private\_Bin](#):
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> I would like to see Mel Gibson fight Russell Crowe. From the beginning to the very end. I imagine it would start with Mel getting his drink on and throwing obscure but well-crafted insults. Russell would inflate with rage, grab an innocuous but sturdy household item and the fight would be on.
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> I don’t normally pay money to see things, but I would for this.

The winner takes on Naomi Campbell on a BAD day.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2010, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/96 "2010-07-03T06:00:02Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> How about GWA (Gibson With Attitude)
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> His only defense is a doctor’s note saying he got turrets syndrome after getting beaten up by a pack of wild Canadians.

:D:D:p

Several tabloids have speculated on various prenups he’s talking with his baby mama. I’ve known that was false: he’s never going to marry her. He’s a crazed fanatical [kinda] Catholic (albeit a vacant chair and other weird shit thrown in type of Catholic)- there’s no way he’s going to remarry since there’s no good reason to have his first marriage annulled.

He’s going to be a male Norma Desmond after this: sickeningly rich but untouchable and probably a nutty recluse. He can’t just apologize to Al Sharpton, give a bunch of money to charity, and call it over as he’s way beyond that stage due to his previous tirades. Let slip the Jews of War.

The pity is that he’s going to heaven but his ex-wife is going to hell (that’s what he said in a previous interview anyway, because she doesn’t share his [kinda]Catholic faith.)

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2010, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/97 "2010-07-03T06:11:53Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> Eighth child? Holy crap, Mel, get the Mighty Snip already!

He’s more Catholic than the Pope ([seriously](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditionalist_Catholic))…so that ain’t happening.

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**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2010, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/98 "2010-07-03T06:23:38Z")

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Anyone know if the actual call has been released? I didn’t see it on the linked source, and I haven’t been able to find anything but quotes. I’d love to hear it.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2010, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/99 "2010-07-03T20:45:44Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> So if the Klan made really good ice cream, you’d stand in line for a scoop? Why? Why would you deliberately finance hateful goals?

What hateful goal am I financing by buying a ticket to a Mel Gibson movie? Mel doesn’t need my ten dollars to be able to scream drunken racist epithets at his wife. I’m pretty sure he’d do that pro bono. If he were using the money to run a hate group, or elect racist politicians, that might be different, but as near as I can tell, there’s no over-arching plot or motive to his actions. He’s just a foulmouthed asshole with poor impulse control, and a talent for making interesting movies. Enjoying the latter isn’t subsidizing the former.

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2010, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/100 "2010-07-03T21:17:44Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> I doubt they’ll say much. They’re too old for that shit.

> [@Bryan Eker](#):
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> I guess it’s not “nigger-Glover” …

This thread is chock full o’ funny.

> [@Chefguy](#):
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> I would have thought perhaps a “holdfull”.

Wind chime?

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