# Dear Mel Gibson........ **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 1, 2010, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246 "2010-07-01T22:28:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2010, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/161 "2010-07-11T16:13:42Z")
> [@Lakai](#): > > Is Gibson’s problem that he used the N-word or that he implied that black people are more likely to rape provocatively dressed women? > > Change the “N-word” to “African Americans” and what Gibson says doesn’t become any less racist. I wasn’t talking about Gibson specificially but addressing something that started with my response to Markxxxx’s post and included **Nzinga** ’s response to me, including knowledge of positions known between her and me. It was a hijack of sorts but I think it fits here. But in generally, you are correct. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2010, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/162 "2010-07-11T16:27:57Z")
But generally. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2010, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/163 "2010-07-12T04:38:38Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > His version does. Traditionalist Catholics tend to be against ecumenism. It’s in the [Wiki article](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditionalist_Catholic#Traditionalists.27_claims_of_.22discontinuity_and_rupture.22) also linked above. Well, that’s true, but even then it was kind of iffy, IIRC. Of course, Mel’s not even a Traditionalist – he’s a [Sedevacantist](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditionalist_Catholic#Sedevacantists). Quite frankly, I hope she IS a golddigger. God knows, she deserves every penny. And Mel DESERVES to get taken. **MeanOldLady** – try “yinz”. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2010, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/164 "2010-07-12T04:48:04Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Quite frankly, I hope she IS a golddigger. God knows, she deserves every penny. And Mel DESERVES to get taken. I just found out Friday that his divorce with Robin isn’t even finalized, so she’ll be getting the lion’s share. Considering that he was nowhere near stardom when they married, I doubt there’s a pre-nup. On the other hand, the other woman deserves child support, but outside of that, I hope Robin screws both adulterers. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2010, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/165 "2010-07-12T22:59:04Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > Finally! I scoured the internets for this for literally, like, five minutes, and all I could find that Radar article quoting the audio, and other articles quoting the Radar article quoting the audio. Man, this sounds so crazy, it hardly even seems real. Who says stuff like that? Eight more minutes of lunacy for you! [EXCLUSIVE NEW AUDIO: Mel Gibson Admits Hitting Oksana, Threatens To Kill Her - Listen To It Here](http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/07/exclusive-new-audio-mel-gibson-admits-hitting-oksana-threatens-kill-her-listen-it) ---
**Author:** ![thirdname](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@thirdname](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thirdname)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2010, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/166 "2010-07-12T23:05:50Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > You know, not to hijack (this is what someone says right before a hijack), but I don’t like this business about the plural of “you” being “you.” I want a separate word for pluralization. None of this figuring it out through context crap. This is why I, a non-Southerner (and an English major, no less), will continue saying “y’all” until I die. Gnash your teeth, yankees, but it is a functional word, and I love it. I agree, but I don’t contract it. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2010, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/167 "2010-07-12T23:42:16Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > **MeanOldLady** – try “yinz”. Pretty good, but I can’t say that and sound natural. My pop says “yous” but he pronounces it more like “yiz.” Cracks me up. > [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > Eight more minutes of lunacy for you! [EXCLUSIVE NEW AUDIO: Mel Gibson Admits Hitting Oksana, Threatens To Kill Her - Listen To It Here](http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/07/exclusive-new-audio-mel-gibson-admits-hitting-oksana-threatens-kill-her-listen-it) Oh fuck yes! My favorite part: “You don’t have any friends except me.” Umm, yeah, Mel. Yeah… ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2010, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/168 "2010-07-13T00:14:42Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > Oh fuck yes! My favorite part: “You don’t have any friends except me.” Umm, yeah, Mel. Yeah… Look what you DOOOOOOOO to me! I also like “YOU HAVE ONE MORE CHANCE!” :: pant pant pant pant :: “You should just fucking smile and BLOOOOOOOW me because I deserve it!” ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2010, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/169 "2010-07-13T00:36:01Z")
Oh man, the panting was hilarious! You could _hear_ the foam around his mouth. His voice was gravely with rage. It’s so crazy it seems fake. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2010, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/170 "2010-07-13T01:37:30Z")
If she can get close enough to stick a pin in Mel’s head, it will explode like an overfilled balloon. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2010, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/171 "2010-07-13T01:43:37Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > Are you serious? Doesn’t speak greatly of her motives? > > According to her attorneys he has threatened violence in the past. I’d say recording every single call with him from then on out would be the smart thing to do. > > She might have people on messageboards making ignorant and critical remarks about her, but at least she’s doing what she can to prove her case that he’s dangerous. If she hadn’t recorded it, she’d be called a liar and a gold digger. Now she’s just a gold digger. She ‘tricked’ him by making him hot for her. Now he’s angry that he got a hard on for her. I imagine it meshes quite well with how he views women. Good for blowjobs and babies. Something tells me he didn’t get this way overnight, and his ex and children got a nice taste of it in their private church (or maybe they all using him for his money, too). Some transcript (NSFW) for anyone who hasn’t heard the audio > [@](#): > > Oksana: You almost killed us, did you forget? > Mel: Boo-hoo-hoo [mocking] that was [indecipherable] fucking gravy train > Oksana: What kind of a man is that? Hitting a woman when she’s holding a child in her hands? Breaking her teeth twice in the face! What kind of man is that? > Mel: Oh, you’re all angry now? You know what, you fucking deserved it. > Oksana: You’re going to answer one day, boy, you’re going to answer. > Mel: Huh? > Oksana: Bad. > Mel: What? What? You threatening me? > Oksana: Nothing, nothing, I’m not the one to threaten. > Mel: I’ll threaten ya, I’ll put you in a fucking rose garden, you cunt! You understand that? Because I’m capable of it. You understand that? ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2010, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/172 "2010-07-13T01:56:12Z")
> [@Cat\_Fight](#): > > If she hadn’t recorded it, she’d be called a liar and a gold digger. Now she’s just a gold digger. > > She ‘tricked’ him by making him hot for her. Now he’s angry that he got a hard on for her. I imagine it meshes quite well with how he views women. Good for blowjobs and babies. Something tells me he didn’t get this way overnight, and his ex and children got a nice taste of it in their private church (or maybe they all using him for his money, too). So true. I don’t know the woman and to be honest, I don’t think a whole lot of someone who willingly helps a man cheat on his wife, but NOBODY deserves the things he’s saying or things he’s doing to her. Some people will do anything to spin something to be the woman’s fault even when there is such a vile audio attack they can listen to. They want to find fault in her so much they are questioning why she’s so calm. If she screamed right back she’d be the shrill harpy. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2010, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/173 "2010-07-13T02:20:49Z")
Perhaps she IS Satan’s minion, or a werewolf or somesuch. I mean, I’d be pissed. Just sayin’. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2010, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/174 "2010-07-13T05:05:40Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > But, I hate for you to feel special about your blackness when it comes to Mel. They say he’s got some rants for the “wetbacks” too! Wetbacks, shmetbacks. The Jews called shotgun in Mel’s hate-mobile _years_ ago. The Me-hee-cans can sit in the back with the homosexuals. Sheesh. Everybody’s trying to get in on the action. > [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > And now you’re a little old white lady from the south! So now I have this vision of **MeanOldLady** sitting in the backseat of a vintage Mercedes dressed like Jessica Tandy while Mel Gibson drives her around and yells offensive things out the window. ---
**Author:** ![Cadence](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Cadence](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cadence)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2010, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/175 "2010-07-13T06:00:55Z")
> [@Cat\_Fight](#): > > If she hadn’t recorded it, she’d be called a liar and a gold digger. Now she’s just a gold digger. > > She ‘tricked’ him by making him hot for her. Now he’s angry that he got a hard on for her. I imagine it meshes quite well with how he views women. Good for blowjobs and babies. Something tells me he didn’t get this way overnight, and his ex and children got a nice taste of it in their private church (or maybe they all using him for his money, too). > > Some transcript (NSFW) for anyone who hasn’t heard the audio Around here that’s called “making terroristic threats” and it’s a felony. :smack: (sorry, the quote didn’t quote. I was referring to the “put you in a rose garden” statement.) ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2010, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/176 "2010-07-13T11:59:15Z")
> [@Green\_Bean](#): > > Wetbacks, shmetbacks. The Jews called shotgun in Mel’s hate-mobile _years_ ago. The Me-hee-cans can sit in the back with the homosexuals. > > Sheesh. Everybody’s trying to get in on the action… Mel’s a busy guy. He doesn’t have time to express his hatred for everyone, even though he feels it. ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2010, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/177 "2010-07-13T13:08:30Z")
What really annoys me is that a friend of mine was once married to a woman in the same Catholic cult as Mel’s family. He knows them (the Gibsons) and for 20 or more years has been telling me what lunatics they are. Unfortunately I never took the opportunity to spread my inside gossip before Mel made it public. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2010, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/178 "2010-07-13T13:19:27Z")
> [@Cadence](#): > > Around here that’s called “making terroristic threats” and it’s a felony. > :smack: (sorry, the quote didn’t quote. I was referring to the “put you in a rose garden” statement.) He’s made several of what should be actionable threats, even the one I mentioned that was in the initial conversation that was released. > [@](#): > > “‘I am going to come and burn the f—ing house down,’ Gibson reportedly tells her.” ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2010, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246/179 "2010-07-13T13:40:19Z")
> [@don\_t\_ask](#): > > What really annoys me is that a friend of mine was once married to a woman in the same Catholic cult as Mel’s family. He knows them (the Gibsons) and for 20 or more years has been telling me what lunatics they are. Unfortunately I never took the opportunity to spread my inside gossip before Mel made it public. You need to change your user name from **don’t ask** to **don’t tell**. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mel-gibson/545246.md?page=8)