# Dear Mississippi Tea Party: Are You Sure Inciting Treason Isn't A Crime? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 1, 2012, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mississippi-tea-party-are-you-sure-inciting-treason-isnt-a-crime/626885 "2012-07-01T10:35:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mississippi-tea-party-are-you-sure-inciting-treason-isnt-a-crime/626885/41 "2012-07-02T01:44:43Z")
I must admit to being intrigued by the idea that obeying the law is treasonous. Do they have a newsletter I can subscribe to? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mississippi-tea-party-are-you-sure-inciting-treason-isnt-a-crime/626885/42 "2012-07-02T01:47:19Z")
Sure, but through the mail, sometimes the crayons smear. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mississippi-tea-party-are-you-sure-inciting-treason-isnt-a-crime/626885/43 "2012-07-02T01:53:23Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > I must admit to being intrigued by the idea that obeying the law is treasonous. [Oh, that hardly scratches the surface!](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Pseudolaw) ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mississippi-tea-party-are-you-sure-inciting-treason-isnt-a-crime/626885/44 "2012-07-02T01:55:14Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > I must admit to being intrigued by the idea that obeying the law is treasonous. Do they have a newsletter I can subscribe to? > [@elucidator](#): > > Sure, but through the mail, sometimes the crayons smear. Especially when you are trying to write on tinfoil. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mississippi-tea-party-are-you-sure-inciting-treason-isnt-a-crime/626885/45 "2012-07-02T02:06:14Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > [Oh, that hardly scratches the surface!](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Pseudolaw) I am a firm believer in pseudolaw, which gives me the freedom to disobey practically any government rule I want to. But these folk have set a new (inverse?, obverse?, reverse?) standard – that _obeying_ the law constitutes a crime. I don’t think they’ve considered what is going to happen when there are like a thousand times more prisoners then there are now. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mississippi-tea-party-are-you-sure-inciting-treason-isnt-a-crime/626885/46 "2012-07-02T02:06:14Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Zod or ZOG? The villain from the original Superman. The MTP is acting like that guy is taking over instead of the court ruling on the ACA, hur hur. Did I get it wrong or am I being whooshed? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mississippi-tea-party-are-you-sure-inciting-treason-isnt-a-crime/626885/47 "2012-07-02T02:15:39Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > I don’t think they’ve considered what is going to happen when there are like a thousand times more prisoners then there are now. That would mean [about](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison#Population_statistics) 9,250,000,000 prisoners; so we’d better get to breeding to produce the necessary people to fill the prisons with! 😃 > [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > The villain from the original Superman. The MTP is acting like that guy is taking over instead of the court ruling on the ACA, hur hur. > > Did I get it wrong or am I being whooshed? Whooshed. ZOG = “Zionist Occupation Government”, a hobgoblin of some right wing groups. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mississippi-tea-party-are-you-sure-inciting-treason-isnt-a-crime/626885/48 "2012-07-02T02:24:15Z")
Protocols of the Elders of the Zion Baptist Church? ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mississippi-tea-party-are-you-sure-inciting-treason-isnt-a-crime/626885/49 "2012-07-02T02:27:52Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > I am a firm believer in pseudolaw, which gives me the freedom to disobey practically any government rule I want to. But these folk have set a new (inverse?, obverse?, reverse?) standard – that _obeying_ the law constitutes a crime. But if you believe you can just no obey any law you want, can’t they disobey the law that says you have to obey the law? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mississippi-tea-party-are-you-sure-inciting-treason-isnt-a-crime/626885/50 "2012-07-02T02:29:08Z")
But that might cause a rip in the fabric of space time! Think, man! Think! ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mississippi-tea-party-are-you-sure-inciting-treason-isnt-a-crime/626885/51 "2012-07-02T03:43:49Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > But that might cause a rip in the fabric of space time! Think, man! Think! No, it’s simple. When a violation of pseudolaw occurs, the trial can only take place when the judge, jury, prosecutor, defendant _et al_ aren’t in the courtroom. When they’re present, the trial has to go wait in the lobby till they leave again (preferably through the courtroom window). ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mississippi-tea-party-are-you-sure-inciting-treason-isnt-a-crime/626885/52 "2012-07-02T08:05:28Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Guys, can we stop? Please? It’s over, you lost (twice!), give it a rest. You lost in the public arena, where you tried to use democratic means to stop mandated health care reform. You failed in the courts, who went ahead and said “Nope, this is constitutional”. What’s next? Violent rebellion Yeah, we lost in the public arena. But much like the suffragists, we’re not done. Just because the public has fallen for a fairly obvious and clearly wrong propaganda campaign does not mean that we’re not going to stop trying to sway the public opinion. Universal health care is a common-sense solution, much like Euclidean geometry, Aristotelian physics, and racial profiling. And like those three, it’s a horrendously bad idea once you actually look into it. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mississippi-tea-party-are-you-sure-inciting-treason-isnt-a-crime/626885/53 "2012-07-02T09:40:42Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Universal health care is a common-sense solution, much like Euclidean geometry, Aristotelian physics, and racial profiling. And like those three, it’s a horrendously bad idea once you actually look into it. Except of course, it isn’t; which is why the rest of the world is going for it. The people who carefully avoid looking into it are the _opponents_; their understanding of UHC is often inaccurate to the point of being practically delusional. “Death panels” and “UHC would have let Stephen Hawking die”, indeed. ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mississippi-tea-party-are-you-sure-inciting-treason-isnt-a-crime/626885/54 "2012-07-02T11:25:05Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Yeah, we lost in the public arena. But much like the suffragists, we’re not done. Just because the public has fallen for a fairly obvious and clearly wrong propaganda campaign does not mean that we’re not going to stop trying to sway the public opinion. Universal health care is a common-sense solution, much like Euclidean geometry, Aristotelian physics, and racial profiling. And like those three, it’s a horrendously bad idea once you actually look into it. If universal health care is so bad, one has to wonder why the US is spending so many orders of magnitude MORE on their system than everyone else, and yet still have so many bad outcomes, and so many people that can only get emergency care. ---
**Author:** ![Mycroft\_Holmes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a5b964/32.png) [@Mycroft\_Holmes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mycroft_Holmes)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mississippi-tea-party-are-you-sure-inciting-treason-isnt-a-crime/626885/55 "2012-07-02T11:57:28Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Universal health care is a common-sense solution, much like Euclidean geometry, Aristotelian physics, and racial profiling. And like those three, it’s a horrendously bad idea once you actually look into it. What’s horrendously bad about Euclidian geometry? Or do surveyors, architects and others now use Riemannian geometry? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mississippi-tea-party-are-you-sure-inciting-treason-isnt-a-crime/626885/56 "2012-07-02T11:58:20Z")
> [@bengangmo](#): > > If universal health care is so bad, one has to wonder why the US is spending so many orders of magnitude MORE on their system than everyone else, and yet still have so many bad outcomes, and so many people that can only get emergency care. Because maintaining the illusion of “personal responsibility” is more important to conservatives than actual outcomes. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mississippi-tea-party-are-you-sure-inciting-treason-isnt-a-crime/626885/57 "2012-07-02T12:18:51Z")
> [@Mycroft\_Holmes](#): > > What’s horrendously bad about Euclidian geometry? Or do surveyors, architects and others now use Riemannian geometry? The really hip architects, like the Cthulhu-inspired ones, have been using non-Euclidean geometry for a long time now. It really blasts your brain. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mississippi-tea-party-are-you-sure-inciting-treason-isnt-a-crime/626885/58 "2012-07-02T12:40:27Z")
> [@Mycroft\_Holmes](#): > > What’s horrendously bad about Euclidian geometry? \*\*Bricker \*\*is posting from the Dread City of R’Lyeh. Strange angles and criss-crossing parallels as far as the eye can see. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mississippi-tea-party-are-you-sure-inciting-treason-isnt-a-crime/626885/59 "2012-07-02T12:44:55Z")
> [@Mycroft\_Holmes](#): > > What’s horrendously bad about Euclidian geometry? Or do surveyors, architects and others now use Riemannian geometry? Don’t you know that Einstein changed all that? Euclidean geometry only works (more or less accurately) in a weak gravitational field. It’s just like Betsy McCaughey (the Einstein of health care) showed that, unless you’re orbiting a black hole, UHC leads to death panels. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mississippi-tea-party-are-you-sure-inciting-treason-isnt-a-crime/626885/60 "2012-07-02T12:49:21Z")
Ahhh, it’s a perfect analogy. Every other industrialized country except the USA is a weak gravitiational field, but America is a Black Hole of exceptionalism. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mississippi-tea-party-are-you-sure-inciting-treason-isnt-a-crime/626885.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-mississippi-tea-party-are-you-sure-inciting-treason-isnt-a-crime/626885.md?page=4)