# Dear Og, yet another unnecessary remake **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 1, 2016, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-og-yet-another-unnecessary-remake/761486 "2016-08-01T19:10:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-og-yet-another-unnecessary-remake/761486/21 "2016-08-02T04:40:37Z")
I just saw parts of “Nothing but Trailers” and my gawd. Here are a couple: A new “Ben Hur”. The book’s original subtitle was “A Tale of the Christ” but the remake looks like a CGI mess. The trailer showed a quick glimpse of someone on a cross at least. “Be My Guest” is a live-action adaptation of “Beauty and the Beast” - by Disney no less. Why? Oh yeah, $$$ I guess. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-og-yet-another-unnecessary-remake/761486/22 "2016-08-02T08:44:51Z")
> [@JohnGalt](#): > > “Be My Guest” is a live-action adaptation of “Beauty and the Beast” - by Disney no less. Why? Oh yeah, $$$ I guess. Disney are doing/have done live-action remakes of _all_ their classic animated movies, some more removed from the source (_Maleficent_), some less so (_Cinderella_). Also _Alice In Wonderland_, _Jungle Book_, _Pete’s Dragon_. In addition to _B&TB_, Disney’s announced upcoming versions of _Mulan_, _Dumbo_, _Winnie the Pooh_, _Pinocchio_, _Fantasia_, _The Sword in the Stone_, _The Black Cauldron_, _Peter Pan_ and _The Little Mermaid_. The _Fantasia_ one will be a revisit of _The Night On Bald Mountain_ sequence, so probably something _Maleficient_-ish about poor misunderstood demons who are really Slavic deities. Call it _American Demigods_. Live-action _Sword In The Stone_ and _Black Cauldron_ could actually be quite cool. Now to agitate for them to get Zhang Yimou for _Mulan_,… No \*Snow White \*remake, but they probably figure _that_ market’s saturated… ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-og-yet-another-unnecessary-remake/761486/23 "2016-08-02T08:53:48Z")
> [@JohnGalt](#): > > I just saw parts of “Nothing but Trailers” and my gawd. Here are a couple: > > A new “Ben Hur”. The book’s original subtitle was “A Tale of the Christ” but the remake looks like a CGI mess. The trailer showed a quick glimpse of someone on a cross at least. > > “Be My Guest” is a live-action adaptation of “Beauty and the Beast” - by Disney no less. Why? Oh yeah, $$$ I guess. Please tell me that “Ben-Hur” is a Michael Bay film. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-og-yet-another-unnecessary-remake/761486/24 "2016-08-02T09:42:49Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Please tell me that “Ben-Hur” is a Michael Bay film. Timur Bekmambetov, the Kazakh Michael Bay. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-og-yet-another-unnecessary-remake/761486/25 "2016-08-02T11:19:03Z")
Kazakhstan makes superior remakes. All other remakes are inferior. ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-og-yet-another-unnecessary-remake/761486/26 "2016-08-02T12:41:31Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > But with Tatum as the merman, right? Bocce _BALLS_!!! ---
**Author:** ![edwards\_beard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@edwards\_beard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwards_beard)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-og-yet-another-unnecessary-remake/761486/27 "2016-08-02T14:06:24Z")
> [@Dendarii\_Dame](#): > > Famously, Splash made the name “Madison” popular for girls. (The mermaid named herself after Madison Avenue.) > > Wonder what Channing Tatum’s merman will name himself, and if that name will become popular for boys? If he crawls out of the water at the statue of liberty again, I wouldn’t be surprised if he chose “Ellis” ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-og-yet-another-unnecessary-remake/761486/28 "2016-08-02T14:22:25Z")
There’s no need to remake good movies. Bad movies should be remade, if they’re remade better. Nothing wrong with the idea of a remake, it’s just that the better the original was the less chance the remake will be worthwhile. ---
**Author:** ![G0sp3l](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c68b51/32.png) [@G0sp3l](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G0sp3l)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-og-yet-another-unnecessary-remake/761486/29 "2016-08-02T14:56:49Z")
> [@JohnGalt](#): > > \ The trailer showed a quick glimpse of someone on a cross at least. > \ That’s the producers subtle effigy of the audience. ---
**Author:** ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-og-yet-another-unnecessary-remake/761486/30 "2016-08-02T15:25:23Z")
I’ll only watch it if Tatum reprises his character from 21 Jump Street. Jonah Hill could play his best friend. It would be hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-og-yet-another-unnecessary-remake/761486/31 "2016-08-02T16:45:39Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Disney are doing/have done live-action remakes of _all_ their classic animated movies, some more removed from the source (_Maleficent_), some less so (_Cinderella_). Also _Alice In Wonderland_, _Jungle Book_, _Pete’s Dragon_. > > In addition to _B&TB_, Disney’s announced upcoming versions of _Mulan_, _Dumbo_, _Winnie the Pooh_, _Pinocchio_, _Fantasia_, _The Sword in the Stone_, _The Black Cauldron_, _Peter Pan_ and _The Little Mermaid_. > > The _Fantasia_ one will be a revisit of _The Night On Bald Mountain_ sequence, so probably something _Maleficient_-ish about poor misunderstood demons who are really Slavic deities. Call it _American Demigods_. > > Live-action _Sword In The Stone_ and _Black Cauldron_ could actually be quite cool. Now to agitate for them to get Zhang Yimou for _Mulan_,… > > No \*Snow White \*remake, but they probably figure _that_ market’s saturated… Black Cauldron? I’ve been waiting for a LOTR style production of the Prydain series for years. Somehow I doubt this will be it. So far I’ve liked all of Disney’s remakes but it’s hard to imagine what their going to do with Fantasia. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-og-yet-another-unnecessary-remake/761486/32 "2016-08-02T16:49:55Z")
I suppose a _Hudson Hawk_ remake, starring Dwayne Johnson, is out of the question? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-og-yet-another-unnecessary-remake/761486/33 "2016-08-02T16:55:27Z")
Not a remake but let’s talk about poorly advised sequels. They’re making _Trainspotting 2_. With the original cast. The whole point of the movie was how self-destructive the characters’ life style was and how Rent Boy was trying to escape in order to survive. Coming back twenty years later and saying all those characters are still alive pretty much invalidates the first movie. ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-og-yet-another-unnecessary-remake/761486/34 "2016-08-02T17:08:43Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > That’s the plan for Ghostbusters, for which they plan multiple movies, television shows, video games and the like. Unlike the first one which had multiple movies, television shows, video games and the like? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-og-yet-another-unnecessary-remake/761486/35 "2016-08-02T17:21:23Z")
> [@obfusciatrist](#): > > Unlike the first one which had multiple movies, television shows, video games and the like? Incidentally, who’d’ve thunk the nostalgia piece with the _other_ Hemsworth brother would be outperforming the one that got all the attention? GHOSTBUSTERS doesn’t look on-track to double its budget, but INDEPENDENCE DAY: RESURGENCE – which I don’t recall _anyone_ clamoring for – is at, what, $372m on a $165m budget? Wonder which is more likely to get a follow-up project. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-og-yet-another-unnecessary-remake/761486/36 "2016-08-02T18:27:11Z")
The gender swapping aspect might be fun. I could probably force myself to watch a wet shirtless Channing acting silly. And wet and shirtless. It doesn’t sound like a horribly expensive movie to make so as long as they don’t spend a zillion dollars trying to make it a blockbuster it should do okay. Make its money back at least. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-og-yet-another-unnecessary-remake/761486/37 "2016-08-02T18:56:22Z")
> [@obfusciatrist](#): > > > [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > > > That’s the plan for Ghostbusters, for which they plan multiple movies, television shows, video games and the like. > > Unlike the first one which had multiple movies, television shows, video games and the like? Sure, but all of that was decades ago. They want an updated franchise, so they can make money _now_ and in the years to come. Another example. If you’re familiar with the Hunger Games franchise, you might know that the last movie sort of ended things; the villain was killed, peace reigned throughout the land, and so forth. But they’re not going to let that stop them, as from what I hear, the studio plans a sort of prequel film. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-og-yet-another-unnecessary-remake/761486/38 "2016-08-02T19:10:15Z")
> [@JohnGalt](#): > > A new “Ben Hur”. The book’s original subtitle was “A Tale of the Christ” but the remake looks like a CGI mess. The trailer showed a quick glimpse of someone on a cross at least. The chariot race is actually \*not \*CGI (well not CGI except for when people/horses get injured) and took IIRC six weeks to film. However, I doubt that will end up mattering since the trailers make it \*look \*CGI, and most people will just assume it’s all fake. I really hope the film is actually good, since I love Jack Huston and want his first big budget title role to be a success, but man that really is one unnecessary remake. And it’s being produced by Mark Burnett & Roma Downey so the evangelical Jesus factor is turned \*way \*up from the original. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-og-yet-another-unnecessary-remake/761486/39 "2016-08-02T19:39:28Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Sure, but all of that was decades ago. They want an updated franchise, so they can make money _now_ and in the years to come. Same thing with _Splash_. There actually was a sequel, _[Splash Too](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splash,_Too)_, made four years after the original. But now the studio thinks it’s time for a reboot. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-og-yet-another-unnecessary-remake/761486/40 "2016-08-02T23:52:24Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I suppose a _Hudson Hawk_ remake, starring Dwayne Johnson, is out of the question? 😃 A lot of those performances can’t be replaced though. Who do you get to replace Kaplan, Minerva, and Darwin? Richard Grant is still around, but if you’re going to re-use him, why bother? Gary Oldman is also getting rather long-in-the-tooth, and Alan Rickman is no more (and was too old). I haven’t seen a good, young, over-the-top villain actor in anything recent. Andie MacDowell’s dolphin sound and Almond Joy’s sarcasm, while not large parts of the film, were still pretty perfect. (The other candy bars could probably be replaced though.) That said, I’d like to see it, just to get more exposure for the original - which I think was snubbed for reasons that had little to do with the movie itself. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-og-yet-another-unnecessary-remake/761486.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-og-yet-another-unnecessary-remake/761486.md?page=3)