# Dear Pat Buchanan

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-pat-buchanan/503831>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 22, 2009, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-pat-buchanan/503831 "2009-07-22T05:54:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-pat-buchanan/503831/41 "2009-07-23T02:17:25Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> That’s the New York Bible.

We would be better off with Tijuana Bibles…

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-pat-buchanan/503831/42 "2009-07-23T02:40:05Z")

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I much admired the free-market entrepreneurship of the Mexican pharmacy.

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**Author:** ![Brainiac4](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brainiac4/32/3534_2.png) [@Brainiac4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brainiac4)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-pat-buchanan/503831/43 "2009-07-23T12:49:23Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> puny humans
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> JESUS SMASH!

Win!

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-pat-buchanan/503831/44 "2009-07-23T19:30:05Z")

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> [@DanBlather](#):
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> Dear Pat,
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> You recently pointed out that the United States was built by white men. Political Correctness stopped you from saying the whole truth, which is that the United States was build by white, \*Protestant \* men.

Unlike Buchanan . . . the demned papest mackerel-snapper . . .

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-pat-buchanan/503831/45 "2009-07-23T19:31:07Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I much admired the free-market entrepreneurship of the Mexican pharmacy.

Which is nothing compared to the courage and ingenuity of the Free Mexican Air Force! 😃

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-pat-buchanan/503831/46 "2009-07-24T03:45:28Z")

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Irony, as pointed out by Rachel Maddow  
_warning PDF_

> [@Pat B. in a memo intended to get to Nixon through back channels](#):
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> [“instead of sending the orders out to all our other agencies-- hire blacks and women-- the order should go out-- hire ethnic Catholics preferable [sic] women, for visible posts. One example: Italian Americans, unlike blacks, have never had a Supreme Court member-- they are deeply concerned with their ‘criminal’ image; they do not dislike the President. Give those fellows the ‘Jewish seat’ or the ‘black seat’ on the Court when it becomes available.”](http://students.washington.edu/trevorg/pdfs/Nixon/Buchanan.pdf)

So “Affirmative Action” is okay when it benefits conservatives I guess.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-pat-buchanan/503831/47 "2009-07-24T04:10:44Z")

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Oddly enough, the thread directly below this one at the moment is “Who Do You Want To Punch Out?”… :dubious:

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-pat-buchanan/503831/48 "2009-07-24T14:13:45Z")

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> [@Homebrew](#):
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> Irony, as pointed out by Rachel Maddow  
> _warning PDF_  
> So “Affirmative Action” is okay when it benefits conservatives I guess.

Oddly, Pat Buchanan is something of a progressive. A Progressive who is a different kind of asshole/idiot from the norm, but nonetheless.

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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-pat-buchanan/503831/49 "2009-07-24T17:48:29Z")

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> [@smiling\_bandit](#):
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> Oddly, Pat Buchanan is something of a progressive. A Progressive who is a different kind of asshole/idiot from the norm, but nonetheless.

Pat Buchanan is not so much progressive on some issues as he is a very old school conservative (i.e., the pre-WWII kind that advocated isolationism in trade and foreign affairs except when communism was involved). That’s why he was against NAFTA and involvement in both Iraqi wars.

[QUOTE=Steve MB]  
Oddly enough, the thread directly below this one at the moment is “Who Do You Want To Punch Out?”…  
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Make the world a better place, punch Pat Buchanan in the face.

(Yes, I’m seven years old.)

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-pat-buchanan/503831/50 "2009-07-24T22:13:23Z")

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“Wrath”: or did you mean “rash”?

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**Author:** ![Valgard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7feea3/32.png) [@Valgard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valgard)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-pat-buchanan/503831/51 "2009-07-24T23:42:18Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Pat Buchanan thinks this country was built on the greatness of men like [John Demjanjuk](http://www.reason.com/blog/printer/132947.html)\*.  
> \*whom Buchanan is currently referring to as “America’s Dreyfus”.

Oh come on, he looks nothing like that dude in “The Apprenticeship Of Duddy Kravitz”.

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2009, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-pat-buchanan/503831/52 "2009-07-25T02:14:04Z")

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> [@NDP](#):
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> Pat Buchanan is not so much progressive on some issues as he is a very old school conservative (i.e., the pre-WWII kind that advocated isolationism in trade and foreign affairs except when communism was involved). That’s why he was against NAFTA and involvement in both Iraqi wars.

That’s not actually conflicting with what I wrote. Pre-WW2 “conservatives” tended to fall into two vague camps: freemarket/big business types and more idealistic Progressives. The Proggies eventually made themselves really, really unwanted and marginalized themselves. The GOP is weak in the Northeast today because the party there slowly committed suicide; ideologically they are not very distinguishable from hard-left Dem’s except by being less ideological and more opportunistic. Plus, (and here’s where Buchanon comes back in) the Progressive factions tended to be quasi-fascist and racist/eugenicist. A lot.

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**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2009, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-pat-buchanan/503831/53 "2009-08-22T11:39:52Z")

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Didn’t the Fathers of our country have Separation of Church and STATE as part of the Constitution because they came to America to get away from Protestants trying to force their brand of Christianity on each other. Made sure the miniority was protected from the Majority?

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2009, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-pat-buchanan/503831/54 "2009-08-22T14:13:45Z")

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Actually, if you’re referring to the Puritans, they were being persecuted by the government of England, which was C of E, i.e. Protestant. There was a strong fellow movement in the Netherlands, also Protestant. Persecution has not been limited to Catholic vs. Protestant. Henry VIII, who switched England to a Protestant religion, persecuted other Protestants.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2009, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-pat-buchanan/503831/55 "2009-08-22T15:30:55Z")

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It’s okay, the Puritans promptly persecuted my Irish ancestors when they came over. This kind of stupid stuff has a long history in America.

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