So, I guess you’re saying is: “Abuse of the filibuster is NOT how democracy works! Rationalizing away the results of free elections is!”
Man, it’d be a LOT easier to get some fuckin’ democracy around here if we didn’t have to deal with people voting the wrong way.
Oh my laaawd there’s so many mad libs who identify with the Dem Party for inexplicable reasons in this thread. Taste those tears.
That’s about the level I’d have expected for your contribution.
I’m just kidding, I have no idea who you are.
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Watch this. This video may be a comedy piece, but it is a biting parody of most of what is wrong with this viewpoint. The idea that both sides of the issue are equivalent is quite often entirely a farce. And you know what? This is a case where we have documented evidence of obstructionism. Not steamrolling, obstructionism. You know how I know this? From the article on the OP!
They’re not arguing “X is not fit for the job”. They’re simply trying to ensure that nobody is able to take the job! They would reject the reincarnation of Ronald fucking Reagan! And that is not obstructionism?
So if someone is gaming the system to block a legal appointment from even getting a vote, it’s just as much gaming the system to sidestep their obstructionism via another hole in the system?
So if you’re a thief and you mug me for my wallet with a knife and I pickpocket it off you when I see you later, we’re both assholes?
I think it’s just you.
But I never said that.
See, THAT claim of yours would be a lie.
No, because my argument is that it’s been ridiculously overused regardless of the balance of the Senate since 1970, not that it should only be used at such and such a time.
I can point out that you’re incorrect about an implication in your post without taking on any other baggage.
I didn’t say that steamrolling = obstructionism. I say that what you think is “obstructionism” some people think of as “prevention of steamrolling”.
Of course. Because they want to prevent being steamrolled by having the department exist.
Karma is a bitch.
With no other way to block confirmation, the Senate Democrats started to filibuster judicial nominees. On February 12 2003, Miguel Estrada, a nominee for the D.C. Circuit, became the first court of appeals nominee ever to be filibustered.[12] Later, nine other conservative court of appeals nominees were also filibustered. These nine were Priscilla Owen, Charles W. Pickering, Carolyn Kuhl, David W. McKeague, Henry Saad, Richard Allen Griffin, William H. Pryor, William Gerry Myers III and Janice Rogers Brown.[13] Three of the nominees (Estrada, Pickering and Kuhl) withdrew their nominations before the end of the 108th Congress.
Karma is a bitch? Isn’t what we’re talking about how one side is using this way more than anyone ever has?
Wouldn’t that mean that karma doesn’t apply? Since, you know the scales aren’t balanced?
Jesus-fuck you’re stupid, and a Libertarian. But I repeat myself.
Lobohan: Sorry, you’re right, that was an immature comment. The Republicans are in the wrong for kicking the Dem’s asses so badly. How dare they block the will of the people with such underhanded tricks? Someone should do something about this political factionalism.
You’re 100% correct. It is obstructionism. And you’re so mad. Look at all those italics.
Karma doesn’t have to be proportional. IIRC, it was Obama that said “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun”.
Psst, you didn’t quote me.
If there is one thing I can count on from the conservatives here, it’s that you try so hard with the limited skills you have.
Except Bricker. He’s actually smart. Shame really.
Patience. He’s smart, we’re right, sooner or later, he’s ours.
You don’t know the *power *of the dark side.
Seriously though, it’s way easier over there. They get their opinions free on the radio.
Ta.
Well, FUCK that. Keep filibusters on the table, for any senator that wants to do it, but make them fucking do it!
I’d be interested in seeing you endorse the contrapositive of what you just wrote:
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My ideology says BOTH dominant parties in this country are fucking retarded. NEITHER is worse or less honest or less ideologically just or smells nastier or anything than the other.
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That about fit your worldview?
Ooh! I know this one!
“The country keeps electing and re-electing Republicans, so thinking persons (who vote) are not nearly as plentiful as one might expect or desire.” Right?
I’m pretty sure you know what the graph of filibuster use by year looks like.
You should be ashamed of this kind of tactic.
I’ve always found the power of Stubborn to be far greater than the power of Smart.