# Dear (rich) people who oppose even a paltry $15.00 an hour minimum wage: **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 8, 2016, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-rich-people-who-oppose-even-a-paltry-15-00-an-hour-minimum-wage/774243 "2016-12-08T23:52:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2016, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-rich-people-who-oppose-even-a-paltry-15-00-an-hour-minimum-wage/774243/181 "2016-12-12T21:09:55Z")
> [@eulalia](#): > > The rest of us actually subsidize those corporations that pay low wages, because their employees need things like SNAP, housing and child-care assistance paid for by our taxes to get by. Their low low prices are a false economy. That is ass backwards thinking. Sorry. It’s better for a corporation or a small business to pay x% then 0%. Do math please. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2016, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-rich-people-who-oppose-even-a-paltry-15-00-an-hour-minimum-wage/774243/182 "2016-12-13T08:14:37Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Don’t confuse her with facts. > > 1. People get SS benefits who have never worked! Example, children draw on their deceased parents account. Yes, that is true. However, this happens only if the parent paid into SS and died before they could draw on it. > [@](#): > > 1. Social security is welfare because there there is no connection between the “taxes” contributed and the “benefits” received. Try reading up on the subject before you say something that dumb. > [@](#): > > 1. SS is a system of taking money from the workers and funding programs and support for the old and disabled. An inter-generation money transfer mandated by the Feds. And? This has been going on for generations - is it a surprise to you? > [@](#): > > 1. Curlcoat likes to ride her high horse instead and pretend she didn’t suck the public boob under a disabled claim, then and that’s fine (if it makes her feel better.) What’s not, his her categorizing those receiving welfare as irresponsible. Snort. I drew my SS early because I cannot work, period; I probably will not get all I paid in, much less the interest it was supposed to have earned. And what I “categorize” are those folks who are irresponsible, not necessarily just those on welfare, tho many (most?) of them are. For some reason, far too many people seem to see nothing wrong with people having children when they cannot afford them, or not bothering to get an education, or buying things they cannot afford. No, we are supposed to continue to give them things, both public and private, and turn a blind eye to how the entitlement attitude just keeps growing. > [@](#): > > 1. Having worked for the XXX XXXXX County Department of Public Welfare after graduation from college, (my first real job) I can assure you that all welfare recipients do not lack responsibility, nor are they worthless, instead they are humans in need with no where else to turn. Which of course I have never said. > [@](#): > > 1. And yes, there are those who are too lazy to do anything but even their children deserve food and medical attention. Kids are rarely responsible for their position in life. And? > [@bump](#): > > Quibbling about the notion of “earned” aside, where WOULD the money actually come from? > > Even if you divide the entire 3.7 trillion dollar federal budget by 300 million citizens, we’re still talking a paltry $12,333 per head, which is hardly anyone’s idea of a livable income, never mind any economic effects due to a basic income. > > Doubling or more the tax rates isn’t going to make anyone who actually pays taxes very happy at all. Taxes is the only place it can come from. Eventually we will tax the middle class away and end up like Mexico. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2016, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-rich-people-who-oppose-even-a-paltry-15-00-an-hour-minimum-wage/774243/183 "2016-12-13T17:43:17Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > That is ass backwards thinking. Sorry. It’s better for a corporation or a small business to pay x% then 0%. Do math please. Your thinking is worse. They aren’t “paying” based on a percentage of an employee’s basic needs; they are buying labor. If the government has to then provide various services to provide their basic needs, why shouldn’t the government have a say? In the end, it either comes down to more taxes paid to the government or more wages paid to the labor. Which is better for business? ---
**Author:** ![Hocus\_Pocus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/41988e/32.png) [@Hocus\_Pocus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hocus_Pocus)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2016, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-rich-people-who-oppose-even-a-paltry-15-00-an-hour-minimum-wage/774243/184 "2016-12-13T21:42:47Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > The last time I worked for minimum wage (late 70s or early 80s) I always worked as many hours a week as I could. In 1979 the MW was $290. Adjusted for inflation, it would be $9.66 today. Small wonder that conservatives want to simply peg today’s actual $7.25 to inflation. > [@](#): > > I _never_ worked just one 40 hour a week job, it was always 1 1/2 to 2 full-time jobs. Much more difficult today when employees are expect to work p/t with variable schedules. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-rich-people-who-oppose-even-a-paltry-15-00-an-hour-minimum-wage/774243.md?page=9)