# Dear SUV driver: Not to put too fine a point on it ...

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 17, 2003, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301 "2003-01-17T20:52:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2003, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/21 "2003-01-17T22:45:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Jackmannii \*  
> \*\*No, I hardly notice as I grind them and their puny fist-waving drivers into metallic compost. \*\*

See, it’s shit like this that makes everyone hate you.

You’re letting your _things_ define you. I suggest you take off your shoes, climb a tree, and learn how to play the flute.

[sub]And take the bus.[/sub]

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**Author:** ![MrMyth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e19b73/32.png) [@MrMyth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrMyth)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2003, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/22 "2003-01-17T22:53:08Z")

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Figured you’d be along, **light strand**.

I’m all for villifying assholes of every stripe and vehicle. But we’re supposed to be about fighting ignorance here, and perpetuating stereotypes is **the height of fuckin’ ignorance**.

Hell, this fucker could’ve been gabbing on the phone while driving. Or an animal could’ve darted out in front of the vehicle. Or they just could’ve been a bad driver. There are myriad reasons why this particular person spun their vehicle, and ‘just because it was an SUV’ isn’t one of them.  
As an aside, even one of those semis saved my ass once on a highway. I had just run out of wiper fluid and my windshield was slowly becoming an opaque mess. I was praying for help and trying to get over to get off when I got splashed by a semi. Gave me enough slush to clean my windshield so I could get to an exit and a gas station.

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**Author:** ![Pucky\_Schumer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/74df32/32.png) [@Pucky\_Schumer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pucky_Schumer)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2003, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/23 "2003-01-17T22:53:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Realhoops \*  
> **I love the fact that this person is a “FARKING DICKWEED MORON” because they did this in an SUV, not because they did this at all. Naturally it’s the fact they own an SUV that makes them a dickweed moron …**

Well, it _is_ one of the warning signs …

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2003, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/24 "2003-01-17T22:55:35Z")

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> Based on widespread observation of SUV drivers…
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> …on the premise of many SUV drivers being fuckwits…

I’m satisfied.

[sub]If **Pucky** starts referring to himself in the 3rd person, I’m gonna get suspicious…[/sub]

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**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2003, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/25 "2003-01-17T23:02:36Z")

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I wish my father’s name was john.

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2003, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/26 "2003-01-17T23:03:31Z")

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Here’s my SUV-related pet peeve: SUVs with American flags on them. OK, we’re in a “war against terrorism,” with the terrorists in question being funded by Middle Eastern oil interests. We really want to put the hurtin’ on Osama and Saddam and Yasir, but paradoxically, simultaneously, we will buy a huge-ass, gas-guzzling vehicle (a 2002 4WD Blazer gets 14/17 mpg!) and pour our hard-earned American currency right in the pockets of…

You get my point. Patriotism is great until it cramps your lifestyle, eh? Easier to just buy a plastic American flag, strap it on your urban assault vehicle, and figure that makes it OK.

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**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2003, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/27 "2003-01-17T23:03:50Z")

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I have to agree with the OP. I’ve lived in Alaska for 33 years. The vehicles most likely to be spotted UPSIDE down in the ditch after even an itty bitty snow??

SUVs or souped up “4x4” trucks.

By a ratio of about 10 of those to 1 “normal” car.

Of course, I do have to ad a disclaimer, Alaskan drivers are probably the worst in the country.

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**Author:** ![Pucky\_Schumer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/74df32/32.png) [@Pucky\_Schumer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pucky_Schumer)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2003, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/28 "2003-01-17T23:04:39Z")

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> \*\*[sub]If **Pucky** starts referring to himself in the 3rd person, I’m gonna get suspicious…[/sub] \*\*

He’d never do that.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2003, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/29 "2003-01-17T23:12:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Rubystreak \*  
> \*\*Here’s my SUV-related pet peeve: SUVs with American flags on them. OK, we’re in a “war against terrorism,” with the terrorists in question being funded by Middle Eastern oil interests. We really want to put the hurtin’ on Osama and Saddam and Yasir, but paradoxically, simultaneously, we will buy a huge-ass, gas-guzzling vehicle (a 2002 4WD Blazer gets 14/17 mpg!) and pour our hard-earned American currency right in the pockets of…
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> You get my point. Patriotism is great until it cramps your lifestyle, eh? Easier to just buy a plastic American flag, strap it on your urban assault vehicle, and figure that makes it OK. \*\*

Christ you’re a fucking idiot. I bet you believe those commercials too.

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**Author:** ![jessicala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb9ed0/32.png) [@jessicala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jessicala)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2003, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/30 "2003-01-17T23:13:05Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Pucky Schumer \*  
> \*\*Not to put too fine a point on it, \*\*

[TMBG]  
Say I’m the only bee in your bonnet,  
Make a little birdhouse in your soul.  
[/TMBG]

[sub]I swear, I refuse to be the only one singing it all afternoon.[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Robb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Robb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robb)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2003, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/31 "2003-01-17T23:17:03Z")

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Which reminds me of wrong ideas that appeal to you.

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**Author:** ![stofsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@stofsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stofsky)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2003, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/32 "2003-01-17T23:29:40Z")

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If you rearrange the letters in his SN, it spells **Reupy Schmuck**.

Tell _me_ that’s not meaningful!

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**Author:** ![scout1222](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@scout1222](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scout1222)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2003, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/33 "2003-01-17T23:35:48Z")

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**JayLa** , you weren’t even _before_ you posted that.

😉

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2003, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/34 "2003-01-17T23:45:46Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Pucky Schumer \*  
> **BTW, are all those widdle bitty, mean old cars picking on yousum, hmm? We have crack down on all those folks causing you to crash your overweight, tip-heavy SUVs.**

Fatherjohn?

Anyway, my child. what you just did is called “sarcasm”. Sarcasm can be a powerful tool when used wisely. You just used it like Robert McNamara spreading Agent Orange on the Cong. In the future, we would hope that you would try to use it wisely and with restraint lest you look like more of a halfwit than you already do, however, given your tired, cliched subject topic, we doubt you will.

Fenris

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**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2003, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/35 "2003-01-18T00:01:59Z")

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See, around these parts, it’s the pickup truck drivers that are the total prick-faces. Not that all those who drive pick-up trucks are prick-faces - my dad drives one and does just fine.

Just that 9 times out of 10 when someone’s doing something lame in their car, it’s not a car, it’s a pick-up.

The SUV drivers are perfectly fine.

I’m inclined to think that that’s because around these parts, an SUV is actually a very useful thing - Going to the mountains, oil rigs, etc. etc, where as the pick-up is more of a showy thing - Cowboy wanna-be and all that.

Interestingly, those drivers that appear to actually _BE_ cowboys seem to drive just fine.

So, to sum up - those who use their vehicle as an extension of their ego, have a tendancy to drive like prick-faces. Those who use their vehicle as it was intended have a tendancy to not drive like prick-faces.

YMMV.

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**Author:** ![Pucky\_Schumer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/74df32/32.png) [@Pucky\_Schumer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pucky_Schumer)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2003, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/36 "2003-01-18T00:03:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Fenris \*  
> \*\*Fatherjohn?
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> Anyway, my child. what you just did is called “sarcasm”. …\*\*

Booooring. Get original or get stuffed.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2003, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/37 "2003-01-18T00:07:59Z")

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ooooh, that rapier like wit, has cut to the quick.

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**Author:** ![Pucky\_Schumer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/74df32/32.png) [@Pucky\_Schumer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pucky_Schumer)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2003, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/38 "2003-01-18T00:13:51Z")

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> \*Originally posted by wring \*  
> \*\*ooooh, that rapier like wit, has cut to the quick. \*\*

Which means I haven’t cut you.  
😃

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2003, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/39 "2003-01-18T00:15:46Z")

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Ohhh, ouch.

gosh, we’ll have to watch out for you, won’t we.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2003, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/40 "2003-01-18T00:18:51Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Pucky Schumer \*  
> \*\*Booooring. Get original or get stuffed. \*\*

This, my son, was called “petulance” which you did quite well, perhaps from long years of practice. Perhaps you could try being “sullen” next.

Fenris

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