# Dear SUV driver: Not to put too fine a point on it ... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 17, 2003, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301 "2003-01-17T20:52:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Tony\_Montana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@Tony\_Montana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tony_Montana)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/141 "2003-01-22T01:56:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Rubystreak \* > \*\*Tony Montana, I expect better of you and your leetle friend. . \*\* But, :sigh: I was in the pit you see and all y’all were havin’ so much fun and ,well…just _forget it_… :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Blown\_Injected](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@Blown\_Injected](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blown_Injected)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/142 "2003-01-22T02:05:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Rubystreak \* > \*\*Tony Montana, I expect better of you and your leetle friend. The only reason patriotism is an issue is b/c people slap those sorry looking plastic flags on their cars. I mean, drive whatever you want; you’re an adult, you know the consequences. My POINT that you seem to wish to twist all out of true, is that putting a flag on your gas guzzler does NOT make you or your car a symbol of patriotism. THAT was my point, but if you want to make it into something else, go right ahead. > > And Blown and Injected, you will never “suck the Middle East dry.” THEY will suck YOU dry-- every dollar they get gives them more power. > > Pucky is right: people who drive to the mall, the grocery store, and the office, in a 14mpg SUV are morons. If you go offroad, or live in a place where the roads aren’t plowed, then it’s a necessity to have 4WD and no sane person would begrudge you that. However, a lot of people drive them b/c everyone else has them. They’re a status symbol, and in an era where fossil fuels are an issue, it’s a bit silly and wasteful. \*\* Ahhh, drive a Ford 4X4 then you don’t need to put a flag on the truck. Sounds like a typical anti SUV enviro-wacko " those sorry looking plastic flags" We have plenty - they ain’t sucking us dry Lets see, one trip to the store with a weeks supply of groceries, or a trip every other day. Maybe I should let that huge truck deliver my big TV - nope it will fit in the back of my truck - that according to my emissions report burn damn clean. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/143 "2003-01-22T02:41:03Z")
Most SUV drivers are a bunch of self-righteous fuckwits who couldn’t oeprate a “Big Wheel” safely. If you think it’s unreasonable to be judged on what you drive, be judged on how you drive. Or drive something that doesn’t support terrorism, you miserable motherfuckers. You don’t drive your SUV to the mountains, motherfucker. You drive it to the Safeway, take up three parking spots and fill the air with diesel farts. You are a self-important poseur, a geek poster-boy manqué bitch who compensates for your lack of control in the most obvious and hackneyed manner. Fuck you! In response to your inability to control situations, you buy an SUV and fantasize about crushing guard rails and other cars, then bitch when people bad mouth your shite driving as the vapid neurons in your R-zone try to put your “philosophy” into practice. I’m so impressed you can fit groceries into your car! I’m more impressed you could find the Safeway in the first place with the inside of your windshield all covered in drool like that. Go cram it with walnuts, ugly, and get fixed before you pass along to many of your wayward recessive genes. And that goes double for Scylla! ---
**Author:** ![Blown\_Injected](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@Blown\_Injected](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blown_Injected)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/144 "2003-01-22T02:50:05Z")
LMAO! Had to be sarcasm or an enviro-wacko ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/145 "2003-01-22T02:55:10Z")
Real men shop at the Big Bear. ---
**Author:** ![Tony\_Montana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@Tony\_Montana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tony_Montana)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/146 "2003-01-22T04:10:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Dr\_Paprika \* > Or drive something that doesn’t support terrorism, eh…::sigh::… So,(hoo-boy) if I drive a Type R Honda, Im supporting terrorism _less_? Or not at all perhaps? And what of all the products around you that are derived from petroleum ? eh…second thought, nevermind, I’m Audi… ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/147 "2003-01-22T04:15:09Z")
Yes you are, you gas-guzzling fuckwit. I also suggest you refrain from purchasing Vaseline in the four finger size. ---
**Author:** ![Tony\_Montana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@Tony\_Montana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tony_Montana)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/148 "2003-01-22T04:34:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Dr\_Paprika \* > \*\*Yes you are, you gas-guzzling fuckwit. I also suggest you refrain from purchasing Vaseline in the four finger size. \*\* Thats “fucktwit” to you… How do you know what I drive? I’m trying to get you to clarify your logic. BTW _you_ are surrounded by products that are derived from petroleum(wether you know it or not,[probably not]) . Does that make \*you \* a supporter of terrorists? **"if I drive a Type R Honda, Im supporting terrorism less?** \*\* “Yes you are”\*\* By extension of your logic that makes you, me and _every_ american a supporter of terrorism, Only some more than others… ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/149 "2003-01-22T06:06:44Z")
Damn straight. Every American _is_ a supporter of terrorism. By contrast, for the last thirty years, I have been indirectly engaged in a noble and uplifting fight for freedom under mankind’s glowing banner of solidarity. You, on the other hand, continue to help jackal terrorists oppress the common man. And if you drive an SUV, you do this with sugar on top. I trust you see the difference. You know, lots of people complained after 9/11 that talk of terrorism was thrown around indiscriminantly, but I just can’t see it. ---
**Author:** ![Pucky\_Schumer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/74df32/32.png) [@Pucky\_Schumer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pucky_Schumer)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/150 "2003-01-22T06:09:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Dr\_Paprika \* > \*\*Yes you are, you gas-guzzling fuckwit. I also suggest you refrain from purchasing Vaseline in the four finger size. \*\* Whew! I’m not sure this applies to the size of the jar or the place where it goes. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/151 "2003-01-22T06:21:46Z")
The bigger the car, the bigger the arse behind the wheel. ---
**Author:** ![Tony\_Montana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@Tony\_Montana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tony_Montana)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/152 "2003-01-22T06:26:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Dr\_Paprika \* > \*\*Damn straight. Every American _is_ a supporter of terrorism. > [@](#): > > By extension of your logic that makes you, me and every american a supporter of terrorism, Only some more than others… That should have read: “that makes you,me and every American,Japanese,Mexican,Irish,taliban soldier,German,Brit,etc etc a supporter of terrorism” ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/153 "2003-01-22T06:48:03Z")
I can agree with you on this point, too. ---
**Author:** ![Tony\_Montana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@Tony\_Montana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tony_Montana)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/154 "2003-01-22T06:53:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Dr\_Paprika \* > \*\*Damn straight. Every American _is_ a supporter of terrorism. By contrast, for the last thirty years, I have been indirectly engaged in a noble and uplifting fight for freedom under mankind’s glowing banner of solidarity. > \*\* Ahh, but you are **also** _indirectly sponsoring_ terrorism,by your logic Doc… > [@](#): > > You, on the other hand, continue to help jackal terrorists oppress the common man. And so do you , **by your logic** > [@](#): > > And if you drive an SUV, you do this with sugar on top. I dont ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/155 "2003-01-22T06:58:10Z")
I am indirectly associated with freedom fighters. To equate this with your direct and personal support of terrorism throws the whole gospel of Reagan in doubt. For an American to do this, even without driving an SUV, is to let the terrorists win. Some jackal terrorists don’t even _like_ sugar, except for the ones that insist on getting sugar before both power and women. ---
**Author:** ![Tony\_Montana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@Tony\_Montana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tony_Montana)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/156 "2003-01-22T07:19:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Dr\_Paprika \* > \*\*I am indirectly associated with freedom fighters. To equate this with your direct and personal support \*\* I have never talked to one personally. Do you mean using petrolem products?i.e. gas? > [@](#): > > Originally posted by Dr\_Paprika > Or drive something that doesn’t support terrorism, So you don’t drive or use products that are derived from petroleum? If so… \*\*"if I drive a Type R Honda, Im supporting terrorism _less_? “Yes you are”\*\* …Then you are indirectly supporting terrorism also, **by extension of your logic** ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/157 "2003-01-22T11:47:27Z")
Doc, watch _out_ with those low flying Predator drones. The wooshing noise is beginning to mess with my hair. Sugar. Indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Doc\_Nickel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5fc32e/32.png) [@Doc\_Nickel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doc_Nickel)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/158 "2003-01-22T11:50:48Z")
Well, you’ll all be happy to know that I drive a V-8 powered, 3/4-ton full-time four-wheel-drive offroadable vehicle that gets about 15mpg, and _every single drop of gasoline_ I’ve ever burned in it came from right here in Alaska. Our local refineries import _maybe_ a couple of tankerfuls every few years from Russia, and I remember a tanker of Australian crude once, but for the most part, our oil is refined right here for local use, much of the finished product is exported to the West Coast of the US, and a few tankers of crude head for Japan every now and then. Nope, no terrorism links here. Plus any money I spend on gas (I commute about 30 miles a week, total) stays right here in town. The wellheads are local, the refinery’s local, the employees are local. So **Schumer** ’s supported more terrorism than I ever have. Shove **that** in your ass and smoke it, Punks. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/159 "2003-01-22T15:40:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Pucky Schumer \* > **Nah, worldeater, it’s just that you’re such a big, slow-moving target. Who could resist?** Remember fucknuggle I don’t drive or own a car. \*\* [quote] My argument: [ul] [li]that some (not all) SUV drivers fail to understand the limits of the vehicle and think it entitles them to drive faster in adverse conditions.\*\*[/li][/quote] Get rid of “SUV” and replace “adverse” with “certain” and you have a point. (Like drag racing a Camero on a highway for example) \*\* [quote] [li]that many (not all) people who buy SUVs do so for status, trendiness, or a misplaced sense of power, rather than for the offroad capabilities.\*\*[/li][/quote] Replace “SUVS” with “expensive cars”, and switch “rather than for the offroad capabilities” with “rather then for their intended purpose”, and you have a point. \*\* > [@](#): > > [li]that buying a gas guzzler for those reasons is asinine. [/li][/ul]\*\* Do you rant against people with Labourgini Diablos? You better, because those things get worse gas mileage then most SUVs ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301/160 "2003-01-22T15:47:47Z")
Try _Lamborghini_ even. Lamborghini Diablo Gas Mileage: City: 9 MPG / Hwy: 14 Hmmm a big gas guzzling expensive dick extension of a vehicle. I await your rant **Pucky** [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-suv-driver-not-to-put-too-fine-a-point-on-it/149301.md?page=9)